Mojaves???? worth the $$$. your thoughts???

i have been looking at a ton of morphs. i notice there are a lot of Mojaves out there that are being over looked. what do you all think the future hold in store for them. will they be swallowed up by lessers???

i am just trying to make my own mind up and everyons thought would be welcome.

well i don't know if they will be swallowed up by lessers. but i do see them makeing some cool morphs in the furture and i love mine looks way sweet and i would never get rid of him and i have a lesser now well almost it's bieng shipped monday so i say get both. get then all. and as far as there worth well when i bought mine there was only a few breeders selling them and they sold for a pretty penny.

well in my personal opinion, mojaves are a great morph, they can make a wite snake and the hypo mojave is very cool, theres not to many combos but we will see

Mojaves will hold there own!

I have Mojaves and Lessers and dont plan on getting rid of either. 2 great morphs. :)

thanks for the comments all. keep them coming. i think getting one of both is the only fix. haahah

Matt, I think you got it right. By the way, some other cool morphs with the Mojave include, the mojave cinnamon (aka Minimon), the mojave spider, the mojave yellow belly, the mojave caramel albino and the Paradox Hypo super mojave (aka Parti Ball). I think that these morphs make it very worthwhile to have a Mojave. The pastel Lessers, Pin Lessers (aka KingPin) and the Woma Lessers (aka Soul Sucker) definitely make Lessers a worthwhile investment. I don't think you can go wrong with either snake, but if the option is there, take one of each.

from a producers stand point i have herd that mojaves are a second option for expensive lesser. that was how it was put to me. and if i was to produce both my coustomers would have an option of wich to buy.

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Originally Posted by MATT FISHER REPTILES

from a producers stand point i have herd that mojaves are a second option for expensive lesser. that was how it was put to me. and if i was to produce both my coustomers would have an option of wich to buy.

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get em both. I like to look of both but prefer the lessers to the mojave just because of the higher gold but some people may be into darker snakes, which mojaves usually are.

that and some people cant afford to get lessers so a mojave is a great second option.

I would pick a lesser over a mojave any day....The crosses are better imo and the lesser's lucy is pure white....

With that being said, I will be working with both, but ill be putting more effort into my lesser projects than my mojave projects just because I like lessers more...

I will most likely be picking up a nice amount of mojave females to grow up this season and cross them later on.....

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Originally Posted by rocky

I would pick a lesser over a mojave any day....The crosses are better imo and the lesser's lucy is pure white....

With that being said, I will be working with both, but ill be putting more effort into my lesser projects than my mojave projects just because I like lessers more...

I will most likely be picking up a nice amount of mojave females to grow up this season and cross them later on.....

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I also agree and look forward to working with both Mojave's AND Lessers.
With that being said tho Rockster I would NOT trade this guy for ANY Lesser.I don't know what the heck is up with this guy but believe it or not he gets BETTER with age ;)
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...Mojavemale.JPG

I'm a big lesser fan but I have seen some smokin mojaves.... Both are great but lessers are my pick

Dont forget that Lesser to Mojave can produce Lucys as well just food for thought.

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Originally Posted by Tussin

Dont forget that Lesser to Mojave can produce Lucys as well just food for thought.

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Mojo lucies aren't nearly as clean and crisp as lesser lucies.:)

-Jason

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Originally Posted by JBallPython

Mojo lucies aren't nearly as clean and crisp as lesser lucies.:)

-Jason

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Agreed! Best BEL comes from lesser x lesser...From the pics of the Het Russo BEL, they don't look to be as clean.

Something to keep in mind...Mojave X Mojave is not the best looking.


Lesser X Mojave or any other is a good looking lucy.

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Originally Posted by ECLARK

Something to keep in mind...Mojave X Mojave is not the best looking.


Lesser X Mojave or any other is a good looking lucy.

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For everyone, I believe these are all the possible combos to make BELs:

Lesser x Lesser
Russo het x Lesser
Russo het x Russo het
Russo het x Mojave (Graziani proved this)
Lesser x Mojave
Mojave x Mojave

IMO the BEST looking BEL comes from Russo het x Russo het.
He has produced some snow white smokers from his line.

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Originally Posted by SPJ

IMO the BEST looking BEL comes from Russo het x Russo het.

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I've only seen pics of the Russo het x Russo het and it still doesn't look better to me than the Lesser x Lesser. I held one of John Piro's BEL at Daytona and it is SMOKIN!

I've been lucky enough to be able to examine several examples of all of the different lucy "lines" in person and if you're looking for pure white, super lessers are where it's at. The russo lucys, like many of the other lucys, have the yellow spinal striping, the yellow eye smudges, and some have not so clean heads.

That said, Gregs Het Russo x Lesser lucy is hot ... very clean.

Just like pastels, albinos, or any other mutation, with lucys the appearance can be very variable .... in my experience the super lessers are the most consistent when it comes to being all white without blemishes.

Hope this helps.

-adam

gtygh

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

I've been lucky enough to be able to examine several examples of all of the different lucy "lines" in person and if you're looking for pure white, super lessers are where it's at. The russo lucys, like many of the other lucys, have the yellow spinal striping, the yellow eye smudges, and some have not so clean heads.

That said, Gregs Het Russo x Lesser lucy is hot ... very clean.

Just like pastels, albinos, or any other mutation, with lucys the appearance can be very variable .... in my experience the super lessers are the most consistent when it comes to being all white without blemishes.

Hope this helps.

-adam

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Great post! Did Greg do the het Russo x Lesser as well as x Mojave?

Jamie, I think the only thing you forgot to throw in the mix is the Lucys made with Butters.

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Originally Posted by muddoc

Jamie, I think the only thing you forgot to throw in the mix is the Lucys made with Butters.

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Good catch! I am not too familiar with the Butters or what they make.

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Originally Posted by jglass38

Great post! Did Greg do the het Russo x Lesser as well as x Mojave?

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My bad ... I meant Het Russo x Mojave ... I was palpating the girls that have been with the lesser boys this season earlier today and just have lessers on the brain. :D :sweeet:

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

My bad ... I meant Het Russo x Mojave ... I was palpating the girls that have been with the lesser boys this season earlier today and just have lessers on the brain. :D :sweeet:

-adam

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As well you should! :D

So then Butters are another BEL maker? Will they work with all the others? And how clean are they compared with the others?

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Originally Posted by xdeus

So then Butters are another BEL maker? Will they work with all the others? And how clean are they compared with the others?

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Ya got me..But I like Butters

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...South_Park.jpg

Is there a reason why all BEL hets are compatible, and make a lucy? Like a het russo x Mojave? Do you get what I am saying?

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Ya got me..But I like Butters

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Did you catch the last SP episode? :eek: My 8 year old was within earshot and I couldn't find the mute button fast enough.

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Did you catch the last SP episode? :eek: My 8 year old was within earshot and I couldn't find the mute button fast enough.

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Was it the race war episode? I miss a lot...They are still one of the funniest things on TV

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I've only seen pics of the Russo het x Russo het and it still doesn't look better to me than the Lesser x Lesser. I held one of John Piro's BEL at Daytona and it is SMOKIN!

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I have also seen one of John Piro's Lesser x Lesser BEL but at NARBC Chi, his were ultra clean and sexy!:rockon: