Look at the size of this female!

i was on kingsnake and i saw this female for sale, she is a $1000 and way overpriced but she is so big! it says she is 5ft long. :O
http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=476383

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Originally Posted by djansen

i was on kingsnake and i saw this female for sale, she is a $1000 and way overpriced but she is so big! it says she is 5ft long. :O
http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=476383

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why do you think she is overpriced?

WOW!!:eek: She is massive!

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Originally Posted by Chase13

why do you think she is overpriced?

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Because it is wild caught......will possibly never breed and may have all kinds of issues.

...I wouldn't take that snake if someone gave it to me for free.

snake steroids?

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Originally Posted by Chase13

why do you think she is overpriced?

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its a normal, even though its huge and maybe not alot for some people but a $1000 is alot for a snake, i would want it to be a morph if i was going to pay that cash.

12LBS is only 5000 grams boys and girls

My biggest girl is 3000 grams. So yea shes a big girl but thats pretty average for a good sized breeder.

She is pretty big.. my largest girl has not yet hit 3000g. As for worth; anything is only worth as much as someone wants to pay for it.. who knows; they could find a buyer.

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

12LBS is only 5000 grams boys and girls

My biggest girl is 3000 grams. So yea shes a big girl but thats pretty average for a good sized breeder.

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Really now

If she was acclimated it would be a nice buy but for a fresh import, not a good buy IMO. may never feed or breed so you just spent $1000 on a normal that will sit in a tub and cost you a bottle of asprin every month

Not to mention you better know your source before buying...................

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Originally Posted by Rapture

Not to mention you better know your source before buying...................

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S&S is not quite known for clean animals. I never had mites in my collection until I got a snake from them. To the person who said it was overpriced; look back through Ed Clark's threads and see what he sold some normals for.

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

12LBS is only 5000 grams boys and girls

My biggest girl is 3000 grams. So yea shes a big girl but thats pretty average for a good sized breeder.

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if your average is 5000 grams! i need to make a trip down to ms and pick up some average girls:D


vaughn

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Originally Posted by tmlowe5704

To the person who said it was overpriced; look back through Ed Clark's threads and see what he sold some normals for.

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His were not fresh wild caught adults though.....BIG DIFFERENCE.

oops, I read to the 2nd post and didn't see that it was WC

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Originally Posted by kavmon

if your average is 5000 grams! i need to make a trip down to ms and pick up some average girls:D


vaughn

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I think he means his average breeder girls are 3000 grams, just bad wording.;)

-Jason

that snake should of been left in the wild if you ask me....................i kno imports is were we get out beautiful animals, but i personally don't like the thought of it..............once again just my opinion

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Originally Posted by daniel1983

Because it is wild caught......will possibly never breed and may have all kinds of issues.

...I wouldn't take that snake if someone gave it to me for free.

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I agree

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Originally Posted by reediculous

that snake should of been left in the wild if you ask me....................i kno imports is were we get out beautiful animals, but i personally don't like the thought of it..............once again just my opinion

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I'm with you but in reality, without imports we wouldn't have all these great morphs! I wouldn't own an import adult. Something just bothers me about it.

Like Jamie said w/o imports we wouldn't have the morphs or cbb we have now.
In all of our bp's bloodlines there is a import.

She is a beauty but would have been better left where she was.

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Originally Posted by jglass38

I'm with you but in reality, without imports we wouldn't have all these great morphs! I wouldn't own an import adult. Something just bothers me about it.

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I agree about the morphs, and I'm sure a handfull of morphs were discovered by accident from a freaky looking import, but I think that's a very small percentage which is why I'm against importing WC normal adults. I cringe whenever I see them offering WC gravid females, and I have to wonder how many WC's end up dead because people can't get them to eat or for other reasons. :(

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Originally Posted by kavmon

if your average is 5000 grams! i need to make a trip down to ms and pick up some average girls:D


vaughn

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I have put my hands on an 8000 gram female in a room full of females over the 3000 gram mark..

Its a suthern' thang' LOL

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

I have put my hands on an 8000 gram female in a room full of females over the 3000 gram mark..

Its a suthern' thang' LOL

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well, hook a brother up! i live in va, but for a year or two i was born and lived in clarskdale, ms.


vaughn

I personally would never spend money on a WC BP, period. Unless it was acclimated fully, eating in captivity and parasite-free.. now, if it were a freebie given to me, I might be tempted to give it a shot.. better than someone getting it that had never kept one before..

S&S has gotten all sorts o good reviews. I saw this snake awhile ago though, it is sure awesome!:rockon:

:rockon:

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Originally Posted by stangs13

S&S has gotten all sorts o good reviews. I saw this snake awhile ago though, it is sure awesome!:rockon:

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And an equal amount of reviews that say the same as I do about the mites. When I called them to tell them the snake had mites the woman had no interest in the situation and offered nothing to me in compensation. All I got was an "oh" and the person on the phone hung up.

Even in the photos, it looks like the snake has scarring and possibly ticks.. makes me think that it hasn't been in captivity long enough to have had several good sheds and be acclimated..

She's a beautiful animal. You take a chance on a freshly imported snake. But then people rarely sell a 5000 gram female that doesn't have 'issues' like throwing duds, not eating, getting RIs. Imports usually have issues, but it's not super necessaily so.
Would I pay $1000.oo for her? No. I have several normals breeding size, and several more that will be breeding size next year. But that doesn't mean someone else won't.
I'll eventually be selling some of the normals as I replace them with hets and morphs, and I'll be sure to offer them first to those that deserve to catch a break.
Last year I got a great deal on some adult normal females.. and when I received them, they had all just laid. Since they were advertised as "Breeding size" and not "Breedable" I couldn't say much. At least it was a good price.
My point is(as I ramble on) that the animal might be worth $1K to someone, if she ISN'T worth it to you, so what? That's not reason to disparage the animal or the ad.
The WC importation is an issue, and I think until we produce enough CBB animals, they will continue to import animals, with the WC gravid females being a draw. Just because you just don't know what will hatch. That next $100K morph would pop out of an egg in YOUR incubator. From ANY snake. It's one of the draws of Ball pythons I think.
Wolfy

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Originally Posted by wolfy-hound

She's a beautiful animal. You take a chance on a freshly imported snake. But then people rarely sell a 5000 gram female that doesn't have 'issues' like throwing duds, not eating, getting RIs. Imports usually have issues, but it's not super necessaily so.
Would I pay $1000.oo for her? No. I have several normals breeding size, and several more that will be breeding size next year. But that doesn't mean someone else won't.
I'll eventually be selling some of the normals as I replace them with hets and morphs, and I'll be sure to offer them first to those that deserve to catch a break.
Last year I got a great deal on some adult normal females.. and when I received them, they had all just laid. Since they were advertised as "Breeding size" and not "Breedable" I couldn't say much. At least it was a good price.
My point is(as I ramble on) that the animal might be worth $1K to someone, if she ISN'T worth it to you, so what? That's not reason to disparage the animal or the ad.
The WC importation is an issue, and I think until we produce enough CBB animals, they will continue to import animals, with the WC gravid females being a draw. Just because you just don't know what will hatch. That next $100K morph would pop out of an egg in YOUR incubator. From ANY snake. It's one of the draws of Ball pythons I think.
Wolfy

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I am having trouble figuring out your point here. Tmlowe is talking about person experience with THIS seller. Others are voicing their opinions about WC animals. I personally thinks its disgusting that people continue to import WC normals. But that is my opinion and I think I have the right to voice it. Incidentally, I think the days of $100,000 morphs is over. :)

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Originally Posted by jglass38

I am having trouble figuring out your point here. Tmlowe is talking about person experience with THIS seller. Others are voicing their opinions about WC animals. I personally thinks its disgusting that people continue to import WC normals. But that is my opinion and I think I have the right to voice it. Incidentally, I think the days of $100,000 morphs is over. :)

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Didn't the paradox crystal ball sell for around $100k?

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Originally Posted by tmlowe5704

Didn't the paradox crystal ball sell for around $100k?

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Ya got me on that one. I don't know whether it did...