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My Cage Temps for BP

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  • 02-27-2007, 09:59 PM
    wspeer
    My Cage Temps for BP
    im currently at 97 on hot side and 87 on cool side is that in a range that is acceptable?
  • 02-27-2007, 10:01 PM
    Nate
    Re: My Cage Temps for BP
    it's about 4 degrees too hot on both sides.

    how are you heating?
  • 02-27-2007, 10:05 PM
    wspeer
    Re: My Cage Temps for BP
    heat lamps, i have been struggeling with this for a while now im either a little too hot ot a little too cold i have two lamps right now one on each side, im starting to get frustrated, ive tryed with just one lamp and foil on top to trap the warm air but my cold side is like 8 degrees to low when i do that, would it be better to be a little warm or a little cold? i dont know if i can get it perfect i also have a uth on the cool side
  • 02-27-2007, 10:14 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: My Cage Temps for BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wspeer
    i dont know if i can get it perfect i also have a uth on the cool side

    You need a thermostat on the warm side and one on the cool side so you can control and maintain proper temps.
  • 02-27-2007, 10:15 PM
    Chase13
    Re: My Cage Temps for BP
    Try using a thermostat. Ranco would be appropriate for you or you can up to the Helix which is more for the hardcore breeders.

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    I've done buisness with Rich and I couldnt be more pleased!
  • 02-27-2007, 10:16 PM
    wspeer
    Re: My Cage Temps for BP
    wouldnt the lights kick on and off constantly? maybe if i switch sides, move the hot side to the side with the UTH and the cool side the side with not uth
  • 02-27-2007, 10:28 PM
    Chase13
    Re: My Cage Temps for BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wspeer
    wouldnt the lights kick on and off constantly? maybe if i switch sides, move the hot side to the side with the UTH and the cool side the side with not uth

    Use a flouresent for you lighting, and get a ceramic heat emitter hooked up to a t-stat and you should get what you want. I would just seggest getting some flexwatt and a t-stat.
  • 02-27-2007, 10:30 PM
    wspeer
    Re: My Cage Temps for BP
    well i will try and get it as close as i can with the lamps for now and when i get a little cash saved up i may take that advise. thanks for the ideas
  • 02-27-2007, 10:31 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: My Cage Temps for BP
    An UTH (under tank heater) like flex watt or one of those zoo-med or reptico ones on a mid-level t-stat would solve all your worries
  • 02-27-2007, 10:33 PM
    wspeer
    Re: My Cage Temps for BP
    should i only worry about the ground temps? what about the air temps??
  • 02-27-2007, 10:37 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: My Cage Temps for BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wspeer
    should i only worry about the ground temps? what about the air temps??

    Is the top of your tank open ot closed in to hold in the humidity??

    In short if the ground temps are right then the ambianet air temps are not a worry.

    But if the top is open like a screen top then yea the air is a worry.
  • 02-27-2007, 10:40 PM
    wspeer
    Re: My Cage Temps for BP
    i have him in a 20L right now so it has a screen top, i am in the process of building a custom cage but i am only worried about the 20L right now. like i said im just a little high like 2 or 3 degrees im gonna keep messin with it though
  • 02-27-2007, 10:43 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: My Cage Temps for BP
    Well thats your call. I'd be hustling one that custom cage. Good luck let me know how it goes and we'd like to see some pics when its done
  • 02-27-2007, 10:45 PM
    wspeer
    Re: My Cage Temps for BP
    im hoping to have it done by sunday, ill post a few pics when its done, if i can get it 95 85 in my 20L would that be acceptable?
  • 02-27-2007, 10:56 PM
    jason221
    Re: My Cage Temps for BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wspeer
    im hoping to have it done by sunday, ill post a few pics when its done, if i can get it 95 85 in my 20L would that be acceptable?

    A little hot... how about 83-84 and 93-94?
  • 02-27-2007, 11:38 PM
    wspeer
    Re: My Cage Temps for BP
    im still working on it right now im at 92 hot side and my cool side is still to be determined would 92h-84/85c be accecptable
  • 02-28-2007, 01:17 AM
    Sadie
    Re: My Cage Temps for BP
    I'd say yes. Just make sure that you are measuring accurately. Where are you measuring the temps? A temp gun is really handy although it only measures surface temperature. Ambient air temp should be fine with heat lamps.
  • 02-28-2007, 01:23 AM
    NCKarlov
    Re: My Cage Temps for BP
    i'm a bit of a n00b with snakes, so keep in mind i'm not trying to downtalk anyone...but in Africa...are snakes only ok when it is 83-84 degrees? like are they freaking out when it's 85-86. It just seems to me like they live in the wild but are babied so much in captivity (not to say that i don't...i have 2 thermostats controlling 2 different UTHs lol) but it's just something me and my mother have been curious about...how much does like 3-5 degrees ACTUALLY matter? i understand that like 20-30% humidity is a bit harsh on the snake but i don't see how they will tell the difference so much in a few degrees?
  • 02-28-2007, 09:44 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: My Cage Temps for BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NCKarlov
    how much does like 3-5 degrees ACTUALLY matter? i understand that like 20-30% humidity is a bit harsh on the snake but i don't see how they will tell the difference so much in a few degrees?

    Well if your talking a bout 2-3 degrees none temps very due to opening the viv ir tub ambient air temps I mean the care sheets state the 90-95 hot and 80-85 on the cool so see even there your given 5 degrees to play with. But a keepers ability to maintain these temps is the biggest factor. I mean lets get real to breed we cool females down to like 70-75 degrees for a month or better. The ability to give the animal the ability to properly thermo regulate that is most important thing. Yes in the wild they don't get this but the mortality rate in wild balls is also 500x's higher than in captivity. Its our job as keepers to offer them a better life than they would get in the wild.

    So in short will two to three degrees make a difference no.
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