Do I really want a Rock Python???

A friend of a friend is trying to get me to buy his Rock Python... My friend says he just doesn't want it anymore... Hes driving me nuts...

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Originally Posted by Momma T

A friend of a friend is trying to get me to buy his Rock Python... My friend says he just doesn't want it anymore... Hes driving me nuts...

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Weren't you the ones who recently got back into snakes? Are you ready to handle a large snake?

I have had snakes for 15 years... But don't have as many anymore :)
And I have had huge pythons in the past.... But do I really want to devote the space and and time to a giant? Also I hear their temperment is not that swell? He is only 3ft long right now... Its a 16 year old kiddo who has him and he says he is nice... But I don't know if he is keeping him properly either...

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Originally Posted by tmlowe5704

Weren't you the ones who recently got back into snakes? Are you ready to handle a large snake?

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Originally Posted by Momma T

I have had snakes for 15 years... But don't have as many anymore :)
And I have had huge pythons in the past.... But do I really want to devote the space and and time to a giant? Also I hear their temperment is not that swell? He is only 3ft long right now... Its a 16 year old kiddo who has him and he says he is nice... But I don't know if he is keeping him properly either...

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Ahh gotcha! Didn't know of your experience and I apologize for that. You are a few days late because we had a guy here(who said he was not going to be able to visit the forum anymore for personal reasons) who cared for lots of large snakes and I think rocks were one of his things.

Im new to snakes and this site but i wouldnt take on the snake if you are having doubts, i googled them and they are big snakes, it may be difficult to get rid of it if you decide you cant take care of it, just speaking from some of my friends mistakes, and the animal suffers in the end.

Good thought!!!! Thank you...

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Originally Posted by wspeer

Im new to snakes and this site but i wouldnt take on the snake if you are having doubts, i googled them and they are big snakes, it may be difficult to get rid of it if you decide you cant take care of it, just speaking from some of my friends mistakes, and the animal suffers in the end.

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No need for apoligy... If you can't learn more than experience does not matter lots of things change over the years... And I haven't had Rock Pythons before... only a pair of burmese for about 5 years... But they were extremly nice... I did school confrences with them and they were wonderful with all the kids!!!
To bad I missed the Giants guy...

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Originally Posted by tmlowe5704

Ahh gotcha! Didn't know of your experience and I apologize for that. You are a few days late because we had a guy here(who said he was not going to be able to visit the forum anymore for personal reasons) who cared for lots of large snakes and I think rocks were one of his things.

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Do you really want a rock python?........................easy answer, NO. :P

I love the clever detailed answer... But you are probably right... Thanks :)

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Originally Posted by ECLARK

Do you really want a rock python?........................easy answer, NO. :P

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Big snake, big attitude, big EVERYTHING! I'd go with Ed's simple answer....NO Way!

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Originally Posted by ECLARK

Do you really want a rock python?........................easy answer, NO. :P

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this is coming from someone who deals with mostly ball pythons? is that a steriotype? africans are not as nice as indians but mines a sweetie(sometimes hehe) rocks are like pitbulls,they look mean and people dont like them. if you want a large snake go for it. if you dont want a possible pissy snake dont.

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Originally Posted by uro1001

this is coming from someone who deals with mostly ball pythons? is that a steriotype? africans are not as nice as indians but mines a sweetie(sometimes hehe) rocks are like pitbulls,they look mean and people dont like them. if you want a large snake go for it. if you dont want a possible pissy snake dont.

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I only have one Ball Python, but from what I've read about Afrocks, if you aren't stamping to get one and dream about them every night, you are not going to want to put up with their temper and their upkeep.

I think if you're flipflopping about the ownership of an african rock python, you're probably not going to be its best home.. You have to be prepared to devote a room of your house, a WHOLE LOT of freezer space, a lot of time, and the time of another keeper. It's a big decision to make!

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Originally Posted by mousch

I only have one Ball Python, but from what I've read about Afrocks, if you aren't stamping to get one and dream about them every night, you are not going to want to put up with their temper and their upkeep.

I think if you're flipflopping about the ownership of an african rock python, you're probably not going to be its best home.. You have to be prepared to devote a room of your house, a WHOLE LOT of freezer space, a lot of time, and the time of another keeper. It's a big decision to make!

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rock pythons have practicly identical care as burms. BURMS ARE ROCK PYTHONS TO. didnt know that eh? they are very easy to keep beside size.

ps: i checked out your ball python pics and its gorgeous for a normal bp:)

When dealing with giants, if you have to ask yourself "Do I really?" then the answer is already no.

Just my $.02...

K~

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Originally Posted by uro1001

rock pythons have practicly identical care as burms.

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Perhaps, but they differ greatly in personality. Burms tend to be laid-back and easy going as a *general* rule, while Afrocks are notorious for being nervous, more unpredictable, "one-keeper" snakes. To lump the two together & also consider their ease of interaction the same would be a potentially dangerous assumption.

K~

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Originally Posted by KLG

Perhaps, but they differ greatly in personality. Burms tend to be laid-back and easy going as a *general* rule, while Afrocks are notorious for being nervous, more unpredictable, "one-keeper" snakes. To lump the two together & also consider their ease of interaction the same would be a potentially dangerous assumption.

K~

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this is true but the statement i made was about care as cage maitnence etc.

I'd sit back and do a bit of thinking on this. Don't ask yourself if *_you_ really want* a rock, but do think on *if _you_ are ready to own a rock now and when it gets to be adult size...may hit 20+ feet *. Are you going to be able to house this snake when it gets bigger, feeding bill, vet trips, heating, etc. It will be very very hard to place this snake in a new home once it gets to be adult size. I know of people who have just let their burms go when they hit 10-12 feet because not a lot of people are willing to take on a big snake like that. I'd really really really think about all of these things before jumping on and owning one.

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Originally Posted by uro1001

this is true but the statement i made was about care as cage maitnence etc.

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Regardless of whether or not you were simply referring to maintenance, I feel that it's important to point out that while Burms are also a type of rock python, it's not safe to assume that AfRocks will behave similarly simply because they have the same care & husbandry requirements.

An uninitiated keeper could easily come along & read parts of this thread & potentially extract that Afrocks are similar to Burms across the board. My point is simply to reiterate that African Rocks, while closely related to & having similar husbandry requirements as Burms, should not be regarded as having the same "gentle giant" personality. These are very large constrictors that could inflict serious injury (not saying that Burms can't either, only that they're not quite as prone to unpredictable behavior) to an unsuspecting keeper.

Also keep in mind that giant constrictor bans are being passed in cities across the country...bans that could eventually trickle down & affect other smaller, more popular species. Surely you'd agree that reiterating safety information that may help avoid bad herp publicity is worthwhile. I wasn't attacking your info in any way, simply clarifying a further point.

Make sense?

K~

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Originally Posted by KLG

Make sense?

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Words of wisdom stemmed from experience :gj:

BTW..my vote is no T. I think you would do well to stick with your smaller more manageable reptiles.

Man I wish Andrew were here!!:mad: He could help you out. I really don't want to know what that kid will do if he doesn't find a home for that snake... but I don't want you to get it if your not ready..

I know!! Tell him to contact the zoo!!! They dont have an afrock!! If I had the experiance, I would take him in, maybe at the small size, I could? I can keep it till I get ahold of andrew, andrew might take him in.:rockon:

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Originally Posted by jim020cricket

Big snake, big attitude, big EVERYTHING! I'd go with Ed's simple answer....NO Way!

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I think a lot of people wuld say that

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Originally Posted by uro1001

this is coming from someone who deals with mostly ball pythons? is that a steriotype? africans are not as nice as indians but mines a sweetie(sometimes hehe) rocks are like pitbulls,they look mean and people dont like them. if you want a large snake go for it. if you dont want a possible pissy snake dont.

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It is coming from someone who is very very smart. Not all afrocks and bums, and anysnake for that matter is "a sweetie".

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Originally Posted by mousch

I only have one Ball Python, but from what I've read about Afrocks, if you aren't stamping to get one and dream about them every night, you are not going to want to put up with their temper and their upkeep.

I think if you're flipflopping about the ownership of an african rock python, you're probably not going to be its best home.. You have to be prepared to devote a room of your house, a WHOLE LOT of freezer space, a lot of time, and the time of another keeper. It's a big decision to make!

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I am no expert on afrocks, but a whole room is not needed for even a 20 foot snake.

I really don't have much time right now to post due to a family emergency. I'm back in Ohio right now, waiting to go to school so I have a little time on my hands right now...so I'll help you:)

Much is debated on the AfRocks aggressiveness, and general handleability. In my opinion, a CBB African Rock makes a wonderful captive, if your prepared. Unlike the Burms and other Rock Pythons; you need to handle this species with confidence without being overly cocky about it. Hesitation and a general nervousness while handling the species can cause some problems. As well as making you nearvous and uneasy about it, it can very well make an uneasy situation for the snake causing it to react with defensiveness. Handle the snake gently but confidently and you will be alright. When you handle the animal, Do Not Restrain It. AfRocks can and will take this as a threat to them, and retaliate. This will break trust and cause problems with taming the animal down...
Unlike Burms which calm down fast and become tractable relaxed captives, the AfRock takes some time to build some trust with but they make for one of the most rewarding captives. The snake isn't going to tame overnight, or just like that; it takes time and lots of bandaids :P There is a flaw with the AfRocks in a way....its commonly mistaken for aggression, when really it isn't. They have a tendency to flip on you from time to time. Every now and then they get in a bad mood...all snakes do. With AfRocks, they don't display this right away. They won't come racing out of the cage, mouth wide open. What happens is when the animal is removed from the cage it will appear to remain calm and such, and in a split second/heartbeat, its the snake you regret picking up that day. You need to watch for this. After keeping the species, or even individual for a period of time, you learn to read their movements and reactions and get atleast a hint of what kind of mood they're in that day. Simple misconception is that these snakes are overly aggressive. They're not. African Rocks grow slower than Burms and Retics as well. They hatch out at roughly 16-18" long, where as Burmese Pythons and Retics hatch out longer. They hit on average, 5-7' by their first year, and grow at a fairly steady rate. African Rocks average out at 9-13' for males, and 14-16' for females. There are exceptions to this, and you may wind up with a larger animal. It takes time and patience with these animals...they are nothing to take lightly, but after that hard work; this would be a proud part of your collection. Compare them to a Burmese Python on speed...they're constantly on the move when pulled out of their enclosure ;)...

Yes Burmese Pythons are a species of Rock Pythons, but every species is different...and really every individual snake is different. To treat an animal as a species, rather than an individual is pure ignorance, and to speak of them as such is more so when it comes to their attitude, behavior on a personal level, and tractability when it comes to a handling session or 'aggressiveness'. In my opinion, if you want the snake, take the snake in. If your having doubts or are worrysome about if you'll be successfull or not, then don't. You can't expect to own a Burm, and be ready for a Retic; or own a Retic and be ready for an AfRock. Simply put, to gain experience for the species, you need to work with the species first hand. Every species is different. Personally if you feel comfortable with owning this animal, go for it. It is also a bad rumor, that I'd like to know who started :P Giant Pythons don't need as much room as people think. A 6' x 2' x 3' enclosure would do perfectly for an average male, and an 8' x 2' x 3' enclosure would suit a female as well. Large rooms or closets are undesireable for giants, and can cause a myriad of problems. African Rocks are highly profficient ambush predators, and are generally inactive most of the time. Majority of their time is spend lying coiled up.

As for the room enclosure...First off, the heat and humidity. It's somewhat difficult and gets expensive to keep the heat and humidity at proper and safe levels for the animal. Too much can be as detrimental as too little. This species is very sensitive to sudden fluctuations in either as well, which can cause stress and illness. Second would be making the room snake proof. Rock Pythons are very strong animals, and you'd want to make sure they can't pop a vent out, or push a door open. After all this you need to set this up months ahead of time to get everything at the ideal level for the snake. The high humidity can very well rott the room out. If its plaster walls, or drywalls, you can say goodbye to them holding up. In my opinion, much better for both the animal and you to keep them in a proper sized enclosure. More room isn't always best ;)

If you want to take this animal in, I am going to PM you my phone number, so I can help you a little more and faster....that if you'd need help with anything, or need me to walk you through anything all you'd have to do is call :)

@Uro1001- where are you getting your information from? Indians are a bit harder to work with than other common giant species. I'd compare them to an almost equal level of difficulty as the AfRock. AfRocks aren't an easy species to keep either. They are very sensitive to temperature changes and humidity fluctuations, as well.

Well there's my little slur of words :P I apologize for how slopping and mixed up it is right now. I really couldn't think of how to type it out as I'm not going through the best situation right now, but I can help out if you want to take the animal in, or possibly work with the species in the future. This will probably be the last time I get to hit up the forums for a long while, so shoot me a call ;)

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Originally Posted by AndrewH

I really don't have much time right now to post due to a family emergency. I'm back in Ohio right now, waiting to go to school so I have a little time on my hands right now...so I'll help you:)

Much is debated on the AfRocks aggressiveness, and general handleability. In my opinion, a CBB African Rock makes a wonderful captive, if your prepared. Unlike the Burms and other Rock Pythons; you need to handle this species with confidence without being overly cocky about it. Hesitation and a general nervousness while handling the species can cause some problems. As well as making you nearvous and uneasy about it, it can very well make an uneasy situation for the snake causing it to react with defensiveness. Handle the snake gently but confidently and you will be alright. When you handle the animal, Do Not Restrain It. AfRocks can and will take this as a threat to them, and retaliate. This will break trust and cause problems with taming the animal down...
Unlike Burms which calm down fast and become tractable relaxed captives, the AfRock takes some time to build some trust with but they make for one of the most rewarding captives. The snake isn't going to tame overnight, or just like that; it takes time and lots of bandaids :P There is a flaw with the AfRocks in a way....its commonly mistaken for aggression, when really it isn't. They have a tendency to flip on you from time to time. Every now and then they get in a bad mood...all snakes do. With AfRocks, they don't display this right away. They won't come racing out of the cage, mouth wide open. What happens is when the animal is removed from the cage it will appear to remain calm and such, and in a split second/heartbeat, its the snake you regret picking up that day. You need to watch for this. After keeping the species, or even individual for a period of time, you learn to read their movements and reactions and get atleast a hint of what kind of mood they're in that day. Simple misconception is that these snakes are overly aggressive. They're not. African Rocks grow slower than Burms and Retics as well. They hatch out at roughly 16-18" long, where as Burmese Pythons and Retics hatch out longer. They hit on average, 5-7' by their first year, and grow at a fairly steady rate. African Rocks average out at 9-13' for males, and 14-16' for females. There are exceptions to this, and you may wind up with a larger animal. It takes time and patience with these animals...they are nothing to take lightly, but after that hard work; this would be a proud part of your collection. Compare them to a Burmese Python on speed...they're constantly on the move when pulled out of their enclosure ;)...

Yes Burmese Pythons are a species of Rock Pythons, but every species is different...and really every individual snake is different. To treat an animal as a species, rather than an individual is pure ignorance, and to speak of them as such is more so when it comes to their attitude, behavior on a personal level, and tractability when it comes to a handling session or 'aggressiveness'. In my opinion, if you want the snake, take the snake in. If your having doubts or are worrysome about if you'll be successfull or not, then don't. You can't expect to own a Burm, and be ready for a Retic; or own a Retic and be ready for an AfRock. Simply put, to gain experience for the species, you need to work with the species first hand. Every species is different. Personally if you feel comfortable with owning this animal, go for it. It is also a bad rumor, that I'd like to know who started :P Giant Pythons don't need as much room as people think. A 6' x 2' x 3' enclosure would do perfectly for an average male, and an 8' x 2' x 3' enclosure would suit a female as well. Large rooms or closets are undesireable for giants, and can cause a myriad of problems. African Rocks are highly profficient ambush predators, and are generally inactive most of the time. Majority of their time is spend lying coiled up.

As for the room enclosure...First off, the heat and humidity. It's somewhat difficult and gets expensive to keep the heat and humidity at proper and safe levels for the animal. Too much can be as detrimental as too little. This species is very sensitive to sudden fluctuations in either as well, which can cause stress and illness. Second would be making the room snake proof. Rock Pythons are very strong animals, and you'd want to make sure they can't pop a vent out, or push a door open. After all this you need to set this up months ahead of time to get everything at the ideal level for the snake. The high humidity can very well rott the room out. If its plaster walls, or drywalls, you can say goodbye to them holding up. In my opinion, much better for both the animal and you to keep them in a proper sized enclosure. More room isn't always best ;)

If you want to take this animal in, I am going to PM you my phone number, so I can help you a little more and faster....that if you'd need help with anything, or need me to walk you through anything all you'd have to do is call :)

@Uro1001- where are you getting your information from? Indians are a bit harder to work with than other common giant species. I'd compare them to an almost equal level of difficulty as the AfRock. AfRocks aren't an easy species to keep either. They are very sensitive to temperature changes and humidity fluctuations, as well.

Well there's my little slur of words :P I apologize for how slopping and mixed up it is right now. I really couldn't think of how to type it out as I'm not going through the best situation right now, but I can help out if you want to take the animal in, or possibly work with the species in the future. This will probably be the last time I get to hit up the forums for a long while, so shoot me a call ;)

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Say it like it is brother.:rockon:

Jeff I speak from experience here! I produced 100's of baby burmese pythons every year in the late 80's and early 90's and had some afrocks that I was raising up for future breeders and decieded after a short time I did not like their attitude and did not think they were a suitable pet snake. and I sold them off because of their unpredictable behavior. and I still would not recommend an afrock as a pet, their are better choices for someone that wants a big snake. :)

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Originally Posted by uro1001

this is coming from someone who deals with mostly ball pythons? is that a steriotype? africans are not as nice as indians but mines a sweetie(sometimes hehe) rocks are like pitbulls,they look mean and people dont like them. if you want a large snake go for it. if you dont want a possible pissy snake dont.

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Very good thought... Thank You

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Originally Posted by lillyorchid

I'd sit back and do a bit of thinking on this. Don't ask yourself if *_you_ really want* a rock, but do think on *if _you_ are ready to own a rock now and when it gets to be adult size...may hit 20+ feet *. Are you going to be able to house this snake when it gets bigger, feeding bill, vet trips, heating, etc. It will be very very hard to place this snake in a new home once it gets to be adult size. I know of people who have just let their burms go when they hit 10-12 feet because not a lot of people are willing to take on a big snake like that. I'd really really really think about all of these things before jumping on and owning one.

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Very good thought... My goal is to make sure that it gets away from the home that it is in and into a home that it will be happy... Some stupid sold it as a first pet to a kid who had NO experience and then that kid sold it to another kid who has NO experience!!!! SOOO Stupid!!!!

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Originally Posted by stangs13

Man I wish Andrew were here!!:mad: He could help you out. I really don't want to know what that kid will do if he doesn't find a home for that snake... but I don't want you to get it if your not ready..

I know!! Tell him to contact the zoo!!! They dont have an afrock!! If I had the experiance, I would take him in, maybe at the small size, I could? I can keep it till I get ahold of andrew, andrew might take him in.:rockon:

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I want to thank you for your time and effort in this thread... This is a little 3' guy who needs the attention and devotion of someone who is devoted to his happiness... I am afraid I do not have time for him but PM me if you would like to have him... The boy does not need him and he knows that... He would like to have a Rat or Corn snake instead and I think that's a great idea for him... He only wants to trade or $50 for him... It is worth $50 to me to just get him into a good home... :)
Thanks Again
T

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Originally Posted by AndrewH

I really don't have much time right now to post due to a family emergency. I'm back in Ohio right now, waiting to go to school so I have a little time on my hands right now...so I'll help you:)

Much is debated on the AfRocks aggressiveness, and general handleability. In my opinion, a CBB African Rock makes a wonderful captive, if your prepared. Unlike the Burms and other Rock Pythons; you need to handle this species with confidence without being overly cocky about it. Hesitation and a general nervousness while handling the species can cause some problems. As well as making you nearvous and uneasy about it, it can very well make an uneasy situation for the snake causing it to react with defensiveness. Handle the snake gently but confidently and you will be alright. When you handle the animal, Do Not Restrain It. AfRocks can and will take this as a threat to them, and retaliate. This will break trust and cause problems with taming the animal down...
Unlike Burms which calm down fast and become tractable relaxed captives, the AfRock takes some time to build some trust with but they make for one of the most rewarding captives. The snake isn't going to tame overnight, or just like that; it takes time and lots of bandaids :P There is a flaw with the AfRocks in a way....its commonly mistaken for aggression, when really it isn't. They have a tendency to flip on you from time to time. Every now and then they get in a bad mood...all snakes do. With AfRocks, they don't display this right away. They won't come racing out of the cage, mouth wide open. What happens is when the animal is removed from the cage it will appear to remain calm and such, and in a split second/heartbeat, its the snake you regret picking up that day. You need to watch for this. After keeping the species, or even individual for a period of time, you learn to read their movements and reactions and get atleast a hint of what kind of mood they're in that day. Simple misconception is that these snakes are overly aggressive. They're not. African Rocks grow slower than Burms and Retics as well. They hatch out at roughly 16-18" long, where as Burmese Pythons and Retics hatch out longer. They hit on average, 5-7' by their first year, and grow at a fairly steady rate. African Rocks average out at 9-13' for males, and 14-16' for females. There are exceptions to this, and you may wind up with a larger animal. It takes time and patience with these animals...they are nothing to take lightly, but after that hard work; this would be a proud part of your collection. Compare them to a Burmese Python on speed...they're constantly on the move when pulled out of their enclosure ;)...

Yes Burmese Pythons are a species of Rock Pythons, but every species is different...and really every individual snake is different. To treat an animal as a species, rather than an individual is pure ignorance, and to speak of them as such is more so when it comes to their attitude, behavior on a personal level, and tractability when it comes to a handling session or 'aggressiveness'. In my opinion, if you want the snake, take the snake in. If your having doubts or are worrysome about if you'll be successfull or not, then don't. You can't expect to own a Burm, and be ready for a Retic; or own a Retic and be ready for an AfRock. Simply put, to gain experience for the species, you need to work with the species first hand. Every species is different. Personally if you feel comfortable with owning this animal, go for it. It is also a bad rumor, that I'd like to know who started :P Giant Pythons don't need as much room as people think. A 6' x 2' x 3' enclosure would do perfectly for an average male, and an 8' x 2' x 3' enclosure would suit a female as well. Large rooms or closets are undesireable for giants, and can cause a myriad of problems. African Rocks are highly profficient ambush predators, and are generally inactive most of the time. Majority of their time is spend lying coiled up.

As for the room enclosure...First off, the heat and humidity. It's somewhat difficult and gets expensive to keep the heat and humidity at proper and safe levels for the animal. Too much can be as detrimental as too little. This species is very sensitive to sudden fluctuations in either as well, which can cause stress and illness. Second would be making the room snake proof. Rock Pythons are very strong animals, and you'd want to make sure they can't pop a vent out, or push a door open. After all this you need to set this up months ahead of time to get everything at the ideal level for the snake. The high humidity can very well rott the room out. If its plaster walls, or drywalls, you can say goodbye to them holding up. In my opinion, much better for both the animal and you to keep them in a proper sized enclosure. More room isn't always best ;)

If you want to take this animal in, I am going to PM you my phone number, so I can help you a little more and faster....that if you'd need help with anything, or need me to walk you through anything all you'd have to do is call :)

@Uro1001- where are you getting your information from? Indians are a bit harder to work with than other common giant species. I'd compare them to an almost equal level of difficulty as the AfRock. AfRocks aren't an easy species to keep either. They are very sensitive to temperature changes and humidity fluctuations, as well.

Well there's my little slur of words :P I apologize for how slopping and mixed up it is right now. I really couldn't think of how to type it out as I'm not going through the best situation right now, but I can help out if you want to take the animal in, or possibly work with the species in the future. This will probably be the last time I get to hit up the forums for a long while, so shoot me a call ;)

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Thank You all for your opinions on this thread... I think I have decided against keeping this guy forever but I am devoted to finding him a new home... He needs a home where someone has plenty of time on there hands and being that I am a single mom of two kidos and several pets I just feel that I would not be able to give him the time and devotion he deserves... If anyone is interested in giving this little guy a good home please PM me so we can talk about it... I will probably be picking him up this weekend and then I must find him a better long-term home... If you are interested I can help you with appropriate housing... I sell pet supplies for a living and I have 3 aquarium companies who also do custom work...

Thank you all again!!!

Giants need love too!!!!

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Originally Posted by Momma T

I am a single mom

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If you dont find anyone let me knwo, and I will help out!

Thank You... I appreciate your help... :)

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Originally Posted by stangs13

If you dont find anyone let me knwo, and I will help out!

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Originally Posted by stangs13

If you dont find anyone let me knwo, and I will help out!

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You need a little more experience to handle an afrock little man ;)

I'll take it!!!!!!!!! :carrot:

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Originally Posted by RKO

I'll take it!!!!!!!!! :carrot:

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No can do pup. I have dibs on the AfRock :P

Thank you both for your help... But I think someone is allready going to take it... I will keep you posted for sure...

I just got him.... Pix will be up soon... The kid that I got him from had NOOO idea what he was talking about... He is only a baby... with big RP Attitude!!! :taz:

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Originally Posted by RKO

You need a little more experience to handle an afrock little man ;)

I'll take it!!!!!!!!! :carrot:

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He will get the best of care in my colony as well. Might even breed if he/she has a certain color or pattern I like! Until then I can shoot you a caresheet on AfRocks I wrote up over a 2 month time frame :)

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Originally Posted by Momma T

Thank you both for your help... But I think someone is allready going to take it... I will keep you posted for sure...

I just got him.... Pix will be up soon... The kid that I got him from had NOOO idea what he was talking about... He is only a baby... with big RP Attitude!!! :taz:

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Originally Posted by AndrewH

No can do pup. I have dibs on the AfRock :P

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*Cartman voice* Aww c'mon......

You have enough afrocks!!!! :zerb:

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Originally Posted by RKO

You need a little more experience to handle an afrock little man ;)

I'll take it!!!!!!!!! :carrot:

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Its 3 feet, i wont have it nearly long enough for it to reach 8!! :zerb: ;)

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Originally Posted by stangs13

Its 3 feet, i wont have it nearly long enough for it to reach 8!! :zerb: ;)

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Nope nope nope, not with how fast they grow. Some guy had a 10 afrock in an aquarium at a show and it struck and cracks the glass. THings are powerful as :cens0r: !

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Originally Posted by stangs13

Its 3 feet, i wont have it nearly long enough for it to reach 8!! :zerb: ;)

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If you find someone to take it within a year, consider yourself lucky

A year is a bit of an exaggeration for a timeline for an AfRock to hit 8', unless you continuously feed it. Most hit 8' around the time they're 18-20 months old. I am getting the animal though. He/She is going into my colony as a hopeful breeder. The color and pattern is heartstoppingly gorgeous on it...

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Originally Posted by AndrewH

A year is a bit of an exaggeration for a timeline for an AfRock to hit 8', unless you continuously feed it. Most hit 8' around the time they're 18-20 months old. I am getting the animal though. He/She is going into my colony as a hopeful breeder. The color and pattern is heartstoppingly gorgeous on it...

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Thats up to Momma T to post them if she'd like :P

Justin, I'd have to agree with AJ on this one. In my opinion your not ready for one. Even keeping it under a year...No sense in juggling it from owner to owner like that. It'll just put un-needed stress on the animal, and won't help much with keeping it calm, and tractable. Central Africans are in my opinion one of the hardest hitting giants in the hobby, if not the hardest hitting. Their feeding response is unmatched from what I've seen and the power they can put into a bite is impressive. I'd say their bite hurts worse than a Retics, Annies or Burms. I've been nailed by all 4. Especially when you get a 'chewer'. Their metabolism is impressive as well. They can take down larger prey than other giants their size, which shows they have some power to them and they're to be respected. Better you pass on this one Justin ;)

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Originally Posted by AndrewH

Justin, I'd have to agree with AJ on this one. In my opinion your not ready for one.

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Yea, I'm not even sure if I'm ready for an afrock, even though having a retic already. I just want one :)

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Originally Posted by AndrewH

I'd say their bite hurts worse than a Retics, Annies or Burms. I've been nailed by all 4. Especially when you get a 'chewer'.

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:O :O :O hurts harder than an annie's bite :O :O :O

I own all 4 and NOTHING compares to the bite of an annie! I hear an annie's bite being described as having a nail hammered into your chest/arm/leg/etc.

If anyone wants to volunteer to get bit by an annie...all you got to do is smell remotely like bird, fish, mammal, reptile, or amphibian and mine will get you ! :D

Jeez! Chill out, I understand I can't handle an afrock, I was just saying as a Just in case sort of thing, not as a permanent home. and AJ, your only a year older than me! :P i under stand, there is no way on gods green earth that I would keep a afrock at this age!! Atleast a bigger one.

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Originally Posted by stangs13

and AJ, your only a year older than me! :P i under stand, there is no way on gods green earth that I would keep a afrock at this age!! Atleast a bigger one.

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Only a year older? You do know I'm 17 right? Arent you like 14? 15 tops?

Afrocks are stronger than retics, it took me 20 minutes to get my 8' female retic out off a tree after photo time was done. WOulda taken me near an hour to get an afrock outta a tree :P .

Actually, I've been bit by Burms, Annies, Retics, Ameys, Mollucans, Ball Pythons etc etc. In my opinion the AfRocks bite hurts alot more. If you can compare the bite of an Annie to a nail being hammered into an appendage, then compare an AfRocks bite to it being ripped open. I've taken a bite from my friends 12' Green female on my right hand, with a scar to prove, and then I took a bite on my left thigh from a 15' LTC female African Rock through blue jeans....and the AfRock bite hurt tons worse. In the wild African Rocks take down much larger prey on a more frequent basis than the other giants, and as such they need that tremendous bite force to help hang on and restrain their prey quickly so it doesn't escape.

Not saying an Annie bite doesn't hurt, it does....but in my opinion, not as much as an AfRocks

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Originally Posted by _BoidFinatic_

:O :O :O hurts harder than an annie's bite :O :O :O

I own all 4 and NOTHING compares to the bite of an annie! I hear an annie's bite being described as having a nail hammered into your chest/arm/leg/etc.

If anyone wants to volunteer to get bit by an annie...all you got to do is smell remotely like bird, fish, mammal, reptile, or amphibian and mine will get you ! :D

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