$2500 to spend, what morphs

This summer I am taking a 2nd job to get money to buy some high end morphs. What would you all buy? I was thinking of trying to talk someone into a pair of mojaves, a single lesser platinum, maybe an albino pair?, clown, caramel albino?

AHH the decisions!

Depends on what you already have and what you want to make :P

I could spend that and get some great stuff male mojave and a couple spider female??

I would get an Albino pair!

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Originally Posted by tmlowe5704

This summer I am taking a 2nd job to get money to buy some high end morphs. What would you all buy? I was thinking of trying to talk someone into a pair of mojaves, a single lesser platinum, maybe an albino pair?, clown, caramel albino?

AHH the decisions!

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P.S clowns go for way more than 2500 you could get a pair of het clowns for that.

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Originally Posted by tmlowe5704

This summer I am taking a 2nd job to get money to buy some high end morphs. What would you all buy? I was thinking of trying to talk someone into a pair of mojaves, a single lesser platinum, maybe an albino pair?, clown, caramel albino?

AHH the decisions!

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Caramel Albino and clown will definietly require more savings, now 1.1 Het Clown and 1.1 Caramel will work.

I would say Lesser but of course it all depends on what your future plans are and what project you are really excited about and want to work on first.

I'd personally get a male Ghost if I had some extra money to spend. I love them!

hmmm didn't realize the price on clowns or caramel albinos. It is a toss up for me between lesser and mojave pair.

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Originally Posted by tmlowe5704

hmmm didn't realize the price on clowns or caramel albinos. It is a toss up for me between lesser and mojave pair.

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I like them both they can make lucys or lesser bees or Pastave's or lessers or mojaves.

I'd get a female mojave and a male lesser. But thats me

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

I like them both they can make lucys or lesser bees or Pastave's or lessers or mojaves.

I'd get a female mojave and a male lesser. But thats me

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How much does a male lesser run? I saw females were right around $2500

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Originally Posted by tmlowe5704

How much does a male lesser run? I saw females were right around $2500

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Lesser male 1500 to 2000 depending
Mojave male and Females 750 to 1000 depending

Lesser male easily...you don't want a mojavawannabelesser ;)....go for the clean white snakes!

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

Lesser male easily...you don't want a mojavawannabelesser ;)....go for the clean white snakes!

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Those blue eyed lucy's are beautiful!

Male lesser hands down

clean whites!

but i would personally buy a pair of some kind of visible morph or a co-dom male animal and extra females to start.

go with a pair of albinos! or male and female pastel and get supers! or het pieds! axanthics?? or a male spider and female pastel, bumblebees! sorry theres too many.

I cant believe only the last post said something about het pieds!!!!!!

pieds pieds pieds pieds pieds i would swim in pieds if i could.

That would be like a grand, leaving you another grand for something else.

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Originally Posted by bigballs

clean whites!

but i would personally buy a pair of some kind of visible morph or a co-dom male animal and extra females to start.

go with a pair of albinos! or male and female pastel and get supers! or het pieds! axanthics?? or a male spider and female pastel, bumblebees! sorry theres too many.

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I am not big on bees or anything like that, so I am trying to stay away from spiders for now. Maybe some new female pastels to make supers?

I'd also vote for the lesser. His long term value is going to be huge as far as the combos that have been produced and are still waiting to be produced...plus BELs! If I had the money I would go w/ a lesser all the way!

Work with what you like though, you'll be spending your time and money to feed and clean the snake...so why look at and put in all that time for a snake that you don't really like.

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Originally Posted by JBallPython

I'd also vote for the lesser. His long term value is going to be huge as far as the combos that have been produced and are still waiting to be produced...plus BELs! If I had the money I would go w/ a lesser all the way!

Work with what you like though, you'll be spending your time and money to feed and clean the snake...so why look at and put in all that time for a snake that you don't really like.

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i agree all the way! cleaning tubs gets old if you really don't "dig" the snake, morph or not.

vaughn

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Originally Posted by adizziedoll

I cant believe only the last post said something about het pieds!!!!!!

pieds pieds pieds pieds pieds i would swim in pieds if i could.

That would be like a grand, leaving you another grand for something else.

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pieds don't do anything for me either. Maybe later on but not right now.

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

Lesser male easily...you don't want a mojavawannabelesser ;)....go for the clean white snakes!

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hey wait a minute now I love my 'jave's and lessers the same.. :(

I'd get a lesser I wouldn't get a pair of mojaves, I'd get some other co-dom morph you can breed your lesser too. Just my:2cent:

Tim, if you look around you could swing a male lesser and a female mojave for that $2500.00 you should consider good female pastels also. :)

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Originally Posted by tmlowe5704

hmmm didn't realize the price on clowns or caramel albinos. It is a toss up for me between lesser and mojave pair.

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i dont know if anyone has mentioned this but i would pick up a pair of het pied.. you could prob get a deal under 2000 if you looked real good. its not a quick rewarding purchase but i would love to see what happens in the long run.. maybe even have them throw in a hatch male mojave for 500 if you buy all 3 from the same person. i dont know.... just my thoughts. whatever you do make sure you search until you are stunned by the deal you find.. dont settle. i almost learned that one the hard way lol :D

My crazy possible-future project would be cinnies; I dream of producing a super cinny that's solid black/brown!
That aside.. albinos all the way IMO. Since you don't like Pieds, (I was gonna suggest hets.) how about 1.1 albino.. or an orange ghost and some hets..
Argh! It is too limitless..
Or you could focus squarely on a lower-priced morph (like Spider..) Buy a male and as many normal females as you can afford, and just do spideys and normals.. might be a little more profitable if you think about it.. selling (let's say..) 12 spiders and 12 normals, versus a few more expensive visible morphs gleaned from a male and hets..

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Originally Posted by Ginevive

My crazy possible-future project would be cinnies; I dream of producing a super cinny that's solid black/brown!
That aside.. albinos all the way IMO. Since you don't like Pieds, (I was gonna suggest hets.) how about 1.1 albino.. or an orange ghost and some hets..
Argh! It is too limitless..
Or you could focus squarely on a lower-priced morph (like Spider..) Buy a male and as many normal females as you can afford, and just do spideys and normals.. might be a little more profitable if you think about it.. selling (let's say..) 12 spiders and 12 normals, versus a few more expensive visible morphs gleaned from a male and hets..

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You do have a point, but from a business stand point, the lesser will be more profitable for the future. Everyone and their grandmas has worked/is working with albinos and everyone knows what an albino this and that look like. Lessers are still untapped resources in the world of breeding.

I am taking this second job just to buy certain snakes, I am still planning on buying 20 hatchlings to raise up myself so normal females will not be a problem. Add that to the 10 normals I already have, each of which are over 700 g.

I didn't think of it that way.. I would just suggest you to go with your gut. When you see "that" animal that you just need to have, run with it. :) This is what I do.. if I never make a penny in profit and lose money, I don't care.

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Originally Posted by tmlowe5704

Lessers are still untapped resources in the world of breeding.

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Lessers are getting pretty common now. I would bet you could find a nice pair of lessers by the end of the season for your $2500. I bought a nice female in October for $1600 and I assume the price will keep coming down. If I were you I would get a male lesser and a female pinstripe. The kingpins are nuts.
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Originally Posted by Ginevive

I didn't think of it that way.. I would just suggest you to go with your gut. When you see "that" animal that you just need to have, run with it. :) This is what I do.. if I never make a penny in profit and lose money, I don't care.

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This is not about money, but I don't want to work with albinos since SO many people have and still work with them. I want something different and lessers are definitely my final answer!

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Originally Posted by tmlowe5704

Everyone and their grandmas has worked/is working with albinos and everyone knows what an albino this and that look like. Lessers are still untapped resources in the world of breeding.

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although everyone who is big on BP's knows about all the mophs with albino's... if you are looking to turn snakes quicker and make some moeny i think albino is the way to go because the public is more out to spend their money on that type of morph than anything else... but if its more on general intrest i love lucys!

i missed the portion on you not wanting pied sorry.

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Originally Posted by andwhy6

although everyone who is big on BP's knows about all the mophs with albino's... if you are looking to turn snakes quicker and make some moeny i think albino is the way to go because the public is more out to spend their money on that type of morph than anything else... but if its more on general intrest i love lucys!

i missed the portion on you not wanting pied sorry.

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It's okay. I have a few females that hopefully will take to it whenever I find one and my ultimate goal for now is a lucy.

I love the lessers and i also like the idea of getting a pinstipe too. I will be in the market too this summer and lesser is on my mind. Although getting a ghost to go with your pastel would be sweet. Ghost pastels are sooooo clean and pretty! So I guess I vote male lesser and female orange ghost. Best of luck with whatever you choose! :salute:

Wow lessers use to be way out of my price range.I guess its not the case anymore, if this is how things are going to be I'll definitely get one in daytona.

Personally I would stay away from Co-Doms and look at recessives. Unless you find a codom that is amazing looking and good price.

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Originally Posted by greenmonkey51

Personally I would stay away from Co-Doms and look at recessives. Unless you find a codom that is amazing looking and good price.

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Any reasons you would stay away from co-doms?

Theres too much uncertanity with the prices and where its going for me. Pastels last year are a good example. It used to be 500$ for a lower quality but it dropped to 250$-300$. Some people may disagree but its just my opinion. Its one reason I went with amarali boas instead.

Co-doms, especially pastels, are still a good choice because the ones that mix well, pastels, lessers, spider, pin, etc. will always be in demand. The prices are going to drop but so what? All that means is more access to morphs= more interest= more future breeders and BUYERS!

Heck, for $2500.00? Just put it in the bank and wait another year or two and you should be able to get ALL the morphs for that price....

If I had 2,500.00 I'd buy uh ... Hmmm, I dunno what I'd buy to be honest. Maybe a Jackson V and a cool modded Marshall.

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Originally Posted by greenmonkey51

Theres too much uncertanity with the prices and where its going for me. Pastels last year are a good example. It used to be 500$ for a lower quality but it dropped to 250$-300$.

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Right, and in that 1 season you could have bred that pastel to 5 normal females. Say conservitivly you get 20 eggs from 5 females. That should be about 10 pastels. Even if you sell those pastels at $200ea(which is low for females) you still make 2 grand in 1 season(and that is not even considering making Supers). I don't think that's too bad...IMO with codoms you either have to get in very early or very late. It's the people who get caught in the middle before the big price drops (that are inevitable and should be anticipated) that have to work harder to make their profit. With the prices the way they are now there is no way to lose money on pretty much any well established co dom. They may not make you rich, but as long as you don't kill them I don't see a way to lose money.