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High contrast morphs?

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  • 02-15-2007, 04:08 PM
    heatherhead42
    High contrast morphs?
    I've been looking (and drooling) over all the corn snake morphs available. But I can tell that photography and screen settings and all clearly affect the way they look, because different pics of the same morph will look different even within the same breeder's website...

    So, can anyone tell me if I'm correct in feeling that the Okeetee pattern is one of the highest-contrast patterns? I really like a very high contrast--bright reds, dark blacks, bright whites, clear lines. It *seems* from the pictures that the Okeetee meets these criteria. Are there other morphs that also do? They don't have to contain red, black, and white--in fact, it could be just two colors. As long as there is a high degree of contrast.

    Having said all that, I'm actually still not definitively planning on getting a corn snake. I believe (and I'm pretty sure Carey agrees :P) that I currently have all the pets I need. But I like to be prepared. :P And I do think I'll probably add a corn snake to my pet population eventually.

    Thanks,

    Heather
  • 02-15-2007, 09:27 PM
    joepythons
    Re: High contrast morphs?
    Heather,if you think ball pythons are addictive,corn snakes are like Jays potato chips "you just cant stop at one" lol.I am not sure if you would consider Silver Queen corn snakes "high contrast" but they are definitly sweet looking in my book.So just incase you have not had the chance to see a Silver Queen her is a pic of my Sylvia,should have eggs sometime soon :) . http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...lvia112006.jpg
  • 02-15-2007, 10:52 PM
    heatherhead42
    Re: High contrast morphs?
    Oooo... pretty snake! I love corns, always have since the first one I ever held. Silver Queen is pretty, and she shares her name with my favorite strain of corn... oh, wait, you did that on purpose, didn't you? :D Perfect name for her.

    I have to admit, though, that I think I'm attracted to the brightly colored corn snakes for my first snake. I love subtly colored snakes, but I guess since we already have a normal ball, I'd like our second snake to be something eye-poppingly vivid. :D

    I'm curious, since it sounds like you're breeding corns (or at least the one, right?): can it be a profitable business the way ball pythons can? Or is the market too saturated at this point? Any thoughts on the matter?

    Just curious. Thanks for sharing the pic of your Silver Queen Corn snake. :D

    Heather
  • 02-15-2007, 11:01 PM
    Brandon.O
    Re: High contrast morphs?
    This is my amelanistic corn Ruby....shes pretty "high contrasty"

    Red and Orange

    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...1/DSC01604.JPG



    She was more so when she was younger.....More white and Red

    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...1/DCP03963.JPG
  • 02-15-2007, 11:05 PM
    heatherhead42
    Re: High contrast morphs?
    Oh, wow, she's gorgeous! I do love the vivid color. And I can totally see what you mean about the stronger contrast when she was younger--that may be part of what I'm noticing about morph photos elsewhere as well--I may be seeing young pictures that are showing a higher contrast than the mature coloration. Good to know.

    Thanks for sharing your pics. It's really helpful. :)

    Heather
  • 02-15-2007, 11:25 PM
    Brandon.O
    Re: High contrast morphs?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by heatherhead42
    Oh, wow, she's gorgeous! I do love the vivid color. And I can totally see what you mean about the stronger contrast when she was younger--that may be part of what I'm noticing about morph photos elsewhere as well--I may be seeing young pictures that are showing a higher contrast than the mature coloration. Good to know.

    Thanks for sharing your pics. It's really helpful. :)

    Heather

    Thanks! No problem, and yes i would choose the morph you like based on adult pictures, mosts snakes colorations will change/darken with age(such as boas and balls) (but some do get better and brighter like JCP's) I would definitly check out a few adult pictures of the morph you are interested in as a hatchling. I love the way snow corns and Anery's look when they are young but with age they develop an ugly yellow color on thier cheeks and down thier necks so i decided to go with an Amel becuase they stay fierce lookin throught thier whole lives !!
  • 02-15-2007, 11:26 PM
    joepythons
    Re: High contrast morphs?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by heatherhead42
    Oooo... pretty snake! I love corns, always have since the first one I ever held. Silver Queen is pretty, and she shares her name with my favorite strain of corn... oh, wait, you did that on purpose, didn't you? :D Perfect name for her.

    I have to admit, though, that I think I'm attracted to the brightly colored corn snakes for my first snake. I love subtly colored snakes, but I guess since we already have a normal ball, I'd like our second snake to be something eye-poppingly vivid. :D

    I'm curious, since it sounds like you're breeding corns (or at least the one, right?): can it be a profitable business the way ball pythons can? Or is the market too saturated at this point? Any thoughts on the matter?

    Just curious. Thanks for sharing the pic of your Silver Queen Corn snake. :D

    Heather

    Heather,some of the new morphs are going for $200 and up and since they are capable of having 3 clutches(not recommended but it happens) in a season it could give a nice return.Yes i am breeding corn snakes and this will be my 3rd year,i have of course Sylvia,Mera(snow corn) and the male is Prince.Now prince has a unknown background so it will be interesting to see what comes out of thier clutches this year.Now as far as being profitable its hard for me to tell since any monies made by selling the babies goes back into my collection may it be a new snake or new enclosures lol.I just love working with them and thats my profit:cool: .
  • 02-16-2007, 08:56 AM
    frankykeno
    Re: High contrast morphs?
    I've always loved the amelanistic or the okeetee corns, you can see some truly stunning examples. There's a lot of lovely corns, probably my favorite is the Sunglow.

    http://cornsnakemorphs.com/sunglow.html

    Though for pure eye candy I do love our daughter's Albino Nelson's Milksnake. Emi is just so unreal looking that some folks won't believe she's real until I get her out and moving around. She looks like she's been colored on with highlighter pens LOL. Lovely snake too for a smaller colubrid. I don't know about other Nelson's but Emi's really laid back and has never nipped and only musked a couple of times as a baby.

    Emi as a baby in my daughter's hand....
    http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...5monthsOld.jpg

    Emi as a yearling....
    http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2.../EmiJan072.jpg
  • 02-16-2007, 01:13 PM
    joepythons
    Re: High contrast morphs?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankykeno
    I've always loved the amelanistic or the okeetee corns, you can see some truly stunning examples. There's a lot of lovely corns, probably my favorite is the Sunglow.

    http://cornsnakemorphs.com/sunglow.html

    Though for pure eye candy I do love our daughter's Albino Nelson's Milksnake. Emi is just so unreal looking that some folks won't believe she's real until I get her out and moving around. She looks like she's been colored on with highlighter pens LOL. Lovely snake too for a smaller colubrid. I don't know about other Nelson's but Emi's really laid back and has never nipped and only musked a couple of times as a baby.

    Emi as a baby in my daughter's hand....
    http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...5monthsOld.jpg

    Emi as a yearling....
    http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2.../EmiJan072.jpg

    Now that is one sweet looking milksnake :cool:
  • 02-16-2007, 04:37 PM
    SPJ
    Re: High contrast morphs?
    True Okeetees are extremely contrasty.

    This is an 06 female.
    She should (hopefully) turn out to be a stunning adult with wide borders.

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...s/DSCN0057.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...s/DSCN0218.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...s/DSCN0104.jpg
  • 02-17-2007, 01:46 PM
    Brandon.O
    Re: High contrast morphs?
    Nice SPJ, shes awesome !
  • 02-18-2007, 11:44 PM
    New Herper
    Re: High contrast morphs?
    We have 2 corn morphs 1 snow and one amelanistic, they are babies. The snow is actually very high contrast bright white and pink(possibly what would be referred to as a bubble gum) and the amel looks a lot like the photo in one of the replies I can only hope that she matures like the one in the reply did. I think they both might be girls, gut feeling only.
    Mike :)
  • 02-19-2007, 12:00 AM
    piranhaking
    Re: High contrast morphs?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Brandon.O
    I love the way snow corns and Anery's look when they are young but with age they develop an ugly yellow color on thier cheeks and down thier necks so i decided to go with an Amel becuase they stay fierce lookin throught thier whole lives !!

    The anerythristic type a do have the yellow near the head, but the anerythristic type b dont. A's make snows (some pattern) B's make blizzards(almost no pattern), when crossed with amelanistic.
  • 02-19-2007, 04:00 PM
    heatherhead42
    Re: High contrast morphs?
    That milk snake is stunning! Wow. Highlighter! Hee hee.

    And I think the okeetee is stunning as well. I guess that really is what I'm after. How will her colors change as she ages? Any favorite breeders for the okeetee coloration?

    Thanks for all the feedback. I'm still debating whether I'm actually going to get a corn and if so when, but now I have lots to think about on colors too. They are all just so beautiful.

    :)

    Heather
  • 02-19-2007, 05:09 PM
    SPJ
    Re: High contrast morphs?
    The one I have is an Abbott line Okeetee. They tend to have more of the checkerboard pattern and thick black borders.

    I have included a link to a great breeder.
    Mike is awesome to deal with and his animals are terrific. He is sold out now but well worth the wait for his next clutch.
    The female in the pic on the eggs is the mother of the snake I posted.

    http://reptiliandreams.com/index.php?crn=232
  • 02-21-2007, 01:14 AM
    Swoof
    Re: High contrast morphs?
    Two things. One I've never heard of triple clutching corns, maybe I haven't been doing this long enough, lol. I've been breeding corns for 4 or 5 years, working with them for 7. Not all Anery type B have no yellow on them. If you do enough research into it, but Rich Zuchowski and I think Don Soderburg have had Charcol corns (Anerythristic type B) that developed yellow on the chin. Corns are VERY addicting. I have close to 70, some are project multi hets. I have a good selection covering a wide variety of corns. Butter, Caramel, Butter motley, Caramel motley, Lavendar, Hypo Lavendar, Blizard (my first year producing these I hope), Anery, Snow, Ghost, Blood Red, Hypo Blood Red, zig zag Lavendars, Stripes, Motleys, Fading Motleys (that produce snow anery and ghosts all with fading motley patterns), Pewter and I'm sure I'm forgetting a few of them.
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