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Tank Set-ups
Hi!
I was hoping to see examples of glass tank set ups...the more 'naturally aesthetic' the better. I just ordered some new cave-type hides (vs. black plastic) and matching water dishes (vs ceramic dog bowl), and will be reorganizing plants and such soon...I'll likely put up some before and afters.
To tide me over...what does YOUR tank look like??
How the heck do you keep the fake plants in one spot?
Vines/logs...keep them for shedding or toss them for something better?
One big bowl or two on opposite sides?
Just looking for something to inspire/admire!
:)
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Re: Tank Set-ups
i think youde have better luck looking in the CAGING thread
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Re: Tank Set-ups
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Originally Posted by jenakle
Hi!
I was hoping to see examples of glass tank set ups...the more 'naturally aesthetic' the better. I just ordered some new cave-type hides (vs. black plastic) and matching water dishes (vs ceramic dog bowl), and will be reorganizing plants and such soon...I'll likely put up some before and afters.
Awesome can't wait to see the pictures!
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Originally Posted by jenakle
To tide me over...what does YOUR tank look like??
How the heck do you keep the fake plants in one spot?
Vines/logs...keep them for shedding or toss them for something better?
One big bowl or two on opposite sides?
Just looking for something to inspire/admire!
:)
Well here's an older picture of 1 of my 55gal setups... it has since then changed a little bit. I have added another hide, a dog bowl for water dish (doesn't knockover like the one in the picture lol), a flukers 6ft vine, accurite digi thermometer and another log... It's alot of stuff to clean when it comes time to clean everything...but to me it's worth it for the way that it looks.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...55galAngle.jpg
As far as keeping fake plants in one spot good luck! ;) they're going to slither all over them and the plants/vines are going to move from their original place...
For shedding I don't take anything out of the tank...The logs actually help give the snake something to rub on when shedding it's skin so those you would definetly want to keep in. I also only use one large water dish incase my snakes want to soak they have the option.
As for more pictures of natural looking setups...Genive has some great looking setups...maybe she will chime in and post a couple pics of her viv's. :)
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Yeah, no I want to keep one or the other (1/2 log vs vine type logs)...just not sure if either one is better than the other. Since Osiris doesn't hide in the log anymore, just rests on it sometimes, I figured I'd try something a little less space consuming.
Thanks for the picture! I agree that it's worth the cleaning if it's visually appealing (as long as it's first beneficial to the snake..I'll stay away from the pirate boats and tiki gods ;)...although, those may provide a nice rub!). Especially since my 30 gal breeder is in the living room...
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Originally Posted by NotAnotherHonda
i think youde have better luck looking in the CAGING thread
Thanks, I'll try that. I did a search with 'tanks' 'tank set-up' 'glass tank' through member pictures/forums and saw a few (and got tired of clicking), but was wondering if anyone had anything else to show.
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Glass Tank Set-ups
Hi!
I was hoping to see (more) examples of glass tank set ups...the more 'naturally aesthetic' the better but I love looking at all!
I just ordered some new cave-type hides (vs. black plastic) and matching water dishes (vs ceramic dog bowl), and will be reorganizing plants and such soon...I'll likely put up some before and afters.
To tide me over...what does YOUR tank look like??
How the heck do you keep the fake plants in one spot?
Vines vs. half logs...which would you keep for shedding? or toss both of them for something better? (I'm replacing the mostly unused 1/2 log hide for big vine chunks)
One big bowl or two on opposite sides? (he's not a soaker in the least ;)
Just looking for something to inspire/admire!
:)
For reference, I have a 30 gal breeder with a top sliding screen (which I hate). My baby Osiris is an adult python, about 3.5-4 feet. He's most laid back about any change, though I may replace one hide only at first to see if he prefers the black plastic boxs over the rock-like new ones.
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I think that the BULK of the members her most likely are using tub set-ups, since the snakes thrive so well in them. I gave up my glass tank after my first ball python fasted for 8 months in it. Now that he's in a tub, he eats every week for me.
With a lot of work like Cassandra and Rick, balls can be kept successfully in tanks, but they are very hard (at least they were for me) to get the temps and humidity stable at all times.
Probably why you aren't getting a lot of responses to this request.
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Originally Posted by rabernet
I gave up my glass tank after my first ball python fasted for 8 months in it. Now that he's in a tub, he eats every week for me.
I'm sorry to hear about that! All of my Ball's are eating great and haven't given me a problem eating wise at all! I've actually never had a snake that fasted for me ever... And all I've ever used was glass tanks.
I am leaning towards plastic cages for my visual setups and sterilite tubs for the young ones. I like how you can stack boaphiles, visions ect,....and with tubs you can have 20 bp's in the same area you would have 2 55gal's.
Back to the topic of glass setups though some things that can help you out to get the temps and humidity dead on if they aren't already are:
-partially covering your screen top with aluminum foil
-adding a bigger water dish
-using a substrate that holds humidity better (zoo meds eco-earth, shredded coconut husk)
-A good thermometer, like say an accurite @ wal-mart or home depot
Although this doesn't add heat or humidity it will give you an accurate reading that will ensure your reading the "real" temp and humidity that stick-on hygrometers and thermometers won't give you.
-UTH and appropriate wattage Heat Lamp or Ceramic Heat Emitter
That's pretty much how I've ran my glass setups up until recently I have added the use of an accurite and I'm very glad I did. I haven't had any problems. Of course having multiple hides and even some extra branches or logs help with the animals sense of security. Hope this information helps. It's rather basic but it's worked for me! Best of luck! ;)
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Originally Posted by rabernet
I think that the BULK of the members her most likely are using tub set-ups, since the snakes thrive so well in them. I gave up my glass tank after my first ball python fasted for 8 months in it. Now that he's in a tub, he eats every week for me.
With a lot of work like Cassandra and Rick, balls can be kept successfully in tanks, but they are very hard (at least they were for me) to get the temps and humidity stable at all times.
Probably why you aren't getting a lot of responses to this request.
Yeah, I knew this was a tub-dominated forum, but have seen some neat tank set ups too. Osiris has been in a glass tank for over 2 years now. He only fasted for about a month after the big move to my place (understandable). He's been a wonderful snake and it's really not that hard to keep the temps/humidity fairly stable...winter heat just means the whole family gets to benefit from a humidifier ;)
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But still I don't know...I keep my BP in a glass tank right now, and i'm actually in the process of not only switching him/her to a tub, but i'm going to be purchasing a rack for all future investments.
I'll agree with you on the vision and boaphile cages though...very sweet! I'd like to have a room full of those.
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All the 'natural' enclosures that I see have an amazon jungle-theme....that really does not suit a ball python.....i have never seen anyone setup a ball python in an enclosure resembling their natural environment.... so I wanted to throw that idea out there just incase someone was interested.
I have a 'natural' ball python enclosure in the works....got the plans drawn up.....it takes a fair amount of research to try to reproduce nature, so I don't have all the details concerning how the environment will be setup....and I can't bring myself to get away from the benefits that LAM reptile keeping offers.....so hopefully what I am designing can put the two methods together with some success.
As far as tank keeping is concerned....I have seen some nice setups especially with dart frogs and geckos......but with snakes.....as great as the insides are setup, I can not bring myself to appreciate them because they just look odd to me......when I see an aquarium, I usually expect fish....not snakes ;)
It is great to see someone varying from the 'norm' of keeping snakes in tubs though :D
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Originally Posted by daniel1983
All the 'natural' enclosures that I see have an amazon jungle-theme....that really does not suit a ball python.....i have never seen anyone setup a ball python in an enclosure resembling their natural environment....
Mainly, I don't want to see the wires, plastics, or ceramic bowls anymore. While I can't reproduce a rodent burrow (well..I guess I COULD but omg what a pain...but how cool if it was like an antfarm tunnel system...being able to see him underground?!), I'm going to use the 'rock' like hides and matching bowls.
http://www.reptilesupply.com/product.php?products_id=36
http://www.reptilesupply.com/product...roducts_id=429
I'm going to have 2 of each, warm and cool sides.
Does anyone else use these hides? I'm hoping the 'large' has a snugger/tighter fit than the large black plastic boxes that I currently have offers. (http://www.reptilesupply.com/product...roducts_id=836)
I'm also including some basic fake plants, and chunky vine pieces for rubbing, removing a 1/2 log hide.
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Originally Posted by jenakle
I used those rock hides for some baby beardies once. Not that bad. The surface on the inside is kinda rough, so you will have to clean it by soaking instead of wiping it down. Other than that they are fine......just make sure you get the larger one....the opening was pretty small if I remember correct.
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Originally Posted by jenakle
I have the same rock style hides http://www.reptilesupply.com/product.php?products_id=36 and my Ball loves them. I'd suggest running your hands over them for sharp spots though, then just sand them down with sandpaper.
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Hmm...underground tunnel system would be awesome! Kinda hard to pull em out for handling though :)
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You might wanna read a book called The Art of Keeping Snakes by Philippe de Vosjoli. It has information on setting up a vivarium type setting for snake and then in the back a small section on different snakes and suggested vivarium design. It's a very interesting book if your into things like that (which I am), although I confess I do use the LAM method with my corn tanks, which I'd like to change...
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Originally Posted by ryandlf
Hmm...underground tunnel system would be awesome! Kinda hard to pull em out for handling though :)
I have a design for one, lol. If you have a front glass panel that drops downwards, so you can reach into the tunnel from the front of it, you could take 'em out. Lemme see if I can find my drawing.
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Warning: I can't draw for ships.
http://usera.imagecave.com/Layna/tunnel.jpg
The top left corner is a side view. The bigger drawing is from the front. I don't know how the tunnels would be made, how the thing would be heated. Or any of that. Maybe the space between the tunnels is aspen, sterile dirt, etc. The is held in place with a piece of plexiglass cut to the outline of a tunnel. It's hard to explain............. Oh and the 'tree' is a decoration I found at a local pet store that is used a water dripper, I planned this out for hatchling corns. It can be substuted with a piece of wood or something.
LOL I know i am kinda dorky...but I've always wanted to design and build vivs./terr. for animals. Reptiles specifically.
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Why did you make a new thread when you already have this one?
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Originally Posted by JasonGranger
Why did you make a new thread when you already have this one?
it was suggested I ask this here in the caging forum. original was in pictures, and someone moved it for me.
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Thanks! I'll do that. It's funny, what Osiris loved the most hide-wise was this (temporary) round cardboard box with a hole cut in the top! Too bad I can't seem to find them anymore...
Also, it was very amusing to watch a snake strike with a 'skirt' still around half of him ;)
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Originally Posted by ryandlf
Hmm...underground tunnel system would be awesome! Kinda hard to pull em out for handling though :)
Yeah, I was thinking some kind of board in the middle maybe? that can be lifted up and out once the 'decor' and top substrate was removed, which would allow me to access the underground. Keeping the substrate underneath in 'tunnel' or hole-like form would be most difficult though...and I'd have to have massive heating.
However, it'd also totally defeat the purpose of him feeling safe in an unseen place, since I'd want to SEE him underground. Then I'd have to get into two-way mirror or tinting the glass or something and that's just crazy.
Fun idea to toy with though!
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Also, how large is your python? I was concerned over the hole size and snugness...
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Thanks for the book ref. i'm always looking for new books, I may just buy this one today :)
The tunnel system though, awesome idea...if you even do come up with a perfect design I wanna see pics! As far as keeping the substrate below "moldable" enough so it won't fall apart, you'd need to keep it quite wet, and that could lead to scale rot etc...
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Originally Posted by ryandlf
The tunnel system though, awesome idea...if you even do come up with a perfect design I wanna see pics! As far as keeping the substrate below "moldable" enough so it won't fall apart, you'd need to keep it quite wet, and that could lead to scale rot etc...
Hi,
I have a book that mentions making tanks with tunnels for use with tarantulas.
The recomended making them with carved breeze blocks with permeable membranes between them and the water storage below and the peat above. The important thing is to make sure you can open the panels to get the snakes out of their burrows no matter where they go.:)
Oh and making sure everything is fixed in place securely to prevent accidental squishings.
dr del
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