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  • 02-06-2007, 11:09 AM
    Dread
    Sugars
    Hi all,

    I'm wondering who is out there working with Sugars. I know Peter Kahl has a group in from France and he produced this past year. Anyone else?

    I've also seen Sugars listed as a co-dominant morph, but that no super has been produced. Shouldn't it be dominant until proven co-dominant?

    Thanks,
    Ryan
  • 02-06-2007, 11:15 AM
    tmlowe5704
    Re: Sugars
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dread
    I've also seen Sugars listed as a co-dominant morph, but that no super has been produced. Shouldn't it be dominant until proven co-dominant?

    Thanks,
    Ryan

    right. if it is listed as co-dom you probably just have not heard of the super yet. Where is it listed as co-dom BTW?
  • 02-06-2007, 12:54 PM
    Dread
    Re: Sugars
    Listed on Peter Kahl's website as co-dominant, then : "Not sure if there is a super but should find out summer of 2006."
  • 02-06-2007, 01:42 PM
    ECLARK
    Re: Sugars
    The few sugars that are out there are spread out between a few different breeders. some guys have only 1 sugar ball. Dan Wolfe seems to have the best shot at a super! :)
  • 02-06-2007, 02:36 PM
    Rapture
    Re: Sugars
    I don't know, but I do love sugars. :)
  • 02-06-2007, 04:18 PM
    djslurp1200
    Re: Sugars
    wow that sugar is pretty hot! never heard of those until this thread... I'd like to see a pastel sugar! :D
  • 02-06-2007, 04:21 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Sugars
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by djslurp1200
    wow that sugar is pretty hot! never heard of those until this thread... I'd like to see a pastel sugar! :D

    If you think that's hot, wait until you see a bubblegum! ;) :sweeet:

    -adam
  • 02-06-2007, 04:24 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Sugars
    Wow that reminds me alot of a Calico.
  • 02-06-2007, 05:25 PM
    ECLARK
    Re: Sugars
    It is believed by many that calicos and sugars are the same morph? :confuzd:
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
    Wow that reminds me alot of a Calico.

  • 02-06-2007, 05:45 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Sugars
    Really wow you learn something new everyday.
  • 02-06-2007, 06:04 PM
    lillyorchid
    Re: Sugars
    I love, love, <3333 the sugars!!!! They are so neat looking.
  • 02-06-2007, 09:39 PM
    cueball
    Re: Sugars
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    wait until you see a bubblegum! ;) :sweeet:

    -adam

    agreed...so tasty :nerd:
  • 02-06-2007, 09:47 PM
    stangs13
    Re: Sugars
    I really hope to buy into a suger in a few years!! I think a fire sugar would look so sweet. Or a sugar spider!
  • 02-06-2007, 09:51 PM
    cueball
    Re: Sugars
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stangs13
    I really hope to buy into a suger in a few years!!

    :rockon: lil buddy :rockon:
  • 02-06-2007, 09:53 PM
    Dread
    Re: Sugars
    But won't they be sugar-free bubblegums?

    Yeah, Sugars are fairly new to me too... certainly there are similarities between the calico and the sugar morphs... different alleles of the same trait? Can't wait for a 'super', but I'd be content to see some crosses!
  • 02-06-2007, 09:53 PM
    stangs13
    Re: Sugars
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cueball
    :rockon:lil buddy :rockon:

    Will do, It ofcoarse will have to drop down a whole bunch..and I have better have sold 1,000,000,000,000 thin mints by then.:8:


    Here is a link.

    http://www.pkreptiles.com/collection...sp?id=70000011
  • 02-07-2007, 10:32 AM
    muddoc
    Re: Sugars
    Dan and Collete also have Sugars in their collection. If I'm not mistaken, they have one for sale at the moment. They also have a pic of a Pastel Sugar somewhere on the website. They are the bomb. The crosses will be great.
  • 02-07-2007, 03:44 PM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: Sugars
    I have a friend working on a Calico Cinamon cross. He wants to see if he can produce a super cinny calico. Picture a black snake with a white calico sides. The books I have read claim the calico and sugar are the same morph, Kevin McCurley's book says dominant (possibly co-dominant).
  • 02-07-2007, 07:55 PM
    Alice
    Re: Sugars
    I got my little low white calico a couple of months ago. There are a very limited number of breeders working with them right now. We're hoping that the super will be prodcued this year (there are a few working ot it as we speak) and hoping it will not be a completely white snake. :)


    Michael Cole has a bubblegum for sale on his website - it is a calico pastel and it is awesome looking.

    Now I have to spend the next year growing up my boy so I can pair him with some neat females next year. Keep your fingers crossed for me.
  • 02-07-2007, 09:03 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Sugars
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alice
    Michael Cole has a bubblegum for sale on his website - it is a calico pastel and it is awesome looking.

    Ralph Davis coined the name "bubblegum" for an imported calico cross in 2004 ... the animal was not a calico pastel and was believed to be a calico yellowbelly.

    It's one of the coolest animals I've ever seen and deserves the name bubblegum in my humble opinion. ;) :D

    -adam
  • 02-07-2007, 09:37 PM
    stangs13
    Re: Sugars
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    Ralph Davis coined the name "bubblegum" for an imported calico cross in 2004 ... the animal was not a calico pastel and was believed to be a calico yellowbelly.

    It's one of the coolest animals I've ever seen and deserves the name bubblegum in my humble opinion. ;) :D

    -adam

    Pictures..please!!:rockon:
  • 02-08-2007, 06:26 AM
    Alice
    Re: Sugars
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    Ralph Davis coined the name "bubblegum" for an imported calico cross in 2004 ... the animal was not a calico pastel and was believed to be a calico yellowbelly.

    It's one of the coolest animals I've ever seen and deserves the name bubblegum in my humble opinion. ;) :D

    -adam

    The name game is very confusing at times. I thought that the calico pastel was called a bubblegum by many . . . . my bad. I think most calico crosses are very cool.
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