boaphile vs Reptile Basics

Does anyone here have any experience with Boaphile Plastics or Reptile Basics( http://www.boaphileplastics.com http://www.reptilebasics.com )

I am interested in getting a 2x4 black cage and I really cannot decide which one I would like to go with. I will eventually be stacking several on top of each other so I would like a sturdy cage.

If anyone can tell me plusses and minuses to either cage it would be greatly appreciated.

I have two racks from Boaphile, and love that they are light weight enough for me to carrying them up the stairs by myself. They're sturdy too. The biggest downside feor ordering from him is the waiting period. You will wait 6-8 weeks, and you'll only get a response if you pester him via phone. I knew that going in, and was not in a rush to get the caging so it worked just fine for me.

I can't comment from experience on reptilebasics, but I know several people here speak very highly of them as well. You can always search for more input in it is not forthcoming. :D

Reptile Basics makes a really high quality racks and cages. I have had the pleasure of meeting Rich in person multiple times and checking them out. He is an A+ businessman! Boaphile makes a quality product but between the long wait times and the bad customer service from them, they wouldn't be my first, second or third choice. Check out herpenclosures.com as well as apcages.com too. Good luck!

boaphile all the way. they are the cheapest and the best. customer service is bad if you e-mail him but he answers his phone every time you call if it is in his hours. the reason they take so long to get is there is a waiting list of people ahead of you who understand that to get the best you have to wait. just order them and forget about them they will take about 8 weeks.

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Originally Posted by BALLISTIC BOAS

boaphile all the way. they are the cheapest and the best. customer service is bad if you e-mail him but he answers his phone every time you call if it is in his hours. the reason they take so long to get is there is a waiting list of people ahead of you who understand that to get the best you have to wait. just order them and forget about them they will take about 8 weeks.

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They are certainly not the cheapest and I guess the best is an opinion. I consider poor customer service to be far from the best that can be done for your customer.

Ive never ordered from either before but I will be from Reptile Basics in the near future, his emaisl back to me were lighting quick.

Another company that makes the plastic cages at great prices is Barrs www.Barrs.com . The only problem is they dont come in black:rolleyes:, ive ordered from them before and everything went smooth. :)

AP cages has the 4x2x15 enclosure on sale right now. Regular $235 for $190 (the T10 terrestrial)

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Originally Posted by worldcupkeeper

Ive never ordered from either before but I will be from Reptile Basics in the near future, his emaisl back to me were lighting quick.

Another company that makes the plastic cages at great prices is Barrs www.Barrs.com . The only problem is they dont come in black:rolleyes:, ive ordered from them before and everything went smooth. :)

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I plan on getting one of their shoebox racks in the future, not anytime soon though.

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Originally Posted by tmlowe5704

AP cages has the 4x2x15 enclosure on sale right now. Regular $235 for $190 (the T10 terrestrial)

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AP makes some awesome cages! I have 3 of them...

I'd say go with the boaphile, I've never had any problems with mine, he's been around A LOT longer than the others above, his email is slow but he does answer, and he does answer the phone every time you call. I've seen the reptile basics, and the ap's in person and those who have them wish they didn't get them compared to the professional and better made Boaphiles. Trust me, compared together the boaphiles are much better made and the doors open much more smoothly.

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Originally Posted by jim020cricket

I'd say go with the boaphile, I've never had any problems with mine, he's been around A LOT longer than the others above, his email is slow but he does answer, and he does answer the phone every time you call. I've seen the reptile basics, and the ap's in person and those who have them wish they didn't get them compared to the professional and better made Boaphiles. Trust me, compared together the boaphiles are much better made and the doors open much more smoothly.

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Again its a judgement call. Poor customer service and a good product doesn't make me a believer.

I'd be kinda dissapointed myself to buy something and not recieve it for so long but when the demand is higher then the supply you just have to be patient if that's the product you want. my friend has a few of the boaphiles and I have to say that the build is definetly nice. I'm actually looking to get some plastic cages myself since the glass tanks are just stacking up... (not cool!)

I guess just shop around and buy what you like and has been proven to be a great product. Either way I've heard nothing but good praise from people with plastic cages so you can't go wrong with either I'm sure. :)

I think Jeff at Boaphile has great customer service. He is very slow at answering emails but then it states right on the web site that it is not the best way to contact him. I never had any problems w/ calling and leaving a message. He would return my call with in 12-24 hrs everytime.
His product is very nice. I have only seen his cages but I do own one of his racks.
I did own a Animal Plastics 4x2 cage and it was great. Very well made and sturdy. Their customer service is wonderful. Again calling them is the best and fastest way to go.

I have only seen Reptile Basics product online. But I do know from ordering from him that he is very professional, fast and good customer service.

If you pick any of the three you can't go wrong.

I do remember when I was shopping around for my cage I looked at Boaphile but liked AP better for several reason at that time. I think is was options available then. I think both now offer about the same. Except Boaphile does not use heat cable where AP does.

I've got 11 boaphile racks and they all work just fine. They are sturdy and well built. I've got some that are 5 years old now and they look as good as the day I got them. However they ARE expensive. Cost per tub is probably one of the highest out there. I recently bought another rack from www.monster-cages.com and it's a very interesting piece of work. I've only had it for a few days so I can't really comment on it yet, but I like the way it is made and I love the way it is heated Also, it's a lot lighter then a compairable stack of boaphile ballroom racks. It's made up of many plys of corrugated plastic and is very sturdy yet light weight. It was also several hundred dollars cheaper then a compairable boaphile stack. I'll have to take some pictures of it tonight or tomorrow and post them up.

Mark

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Originally Posted by jglass38

Again its a judgement call. Poor customer service and a good product doesn't make me a believer.

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Why does he have poor customer service? I've never had a bad experience talking to him. He usually has me rolling on the floor laughing whenever I talk to him. :confused:

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Originally Posted by jim020cricket

Why does he have poor customer service? I've never had a bad experience talking to him. He usually has me rolling on the floor laughing whenever I talk to him. :confused:

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There is plenty of stuff on Fauna.

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Originally Posted by jglass38

There is plenty of stuff on Fauna.

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....but this ain't Fauna.

Have you ever personally had a bad experience with Boaphile?

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Originally Posted by daniel1983

....but this ain't Fauna.

Have you ever personally had a bad experience with Boaphile?

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exactly. :confused:

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Originally Posted by jglass38

There is plenty of stuff on Fauna.

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I've personally, never had a bad experience with him. I know, personally, no one who has had a bad experience with Jeff. Have you had a bad experience with him? I'm only giving my personal experience with said company and don't really care what "fauna" has to say. This thread asked our opinion, I gave it. You have already said numerous times what you opinion is on this topic. Can we please leave it at that without getting into a drawn out debate on whether or not you or anyone else is wrong or right. Thanks.

Like we've done before, let's agree to disagree. :rockon:

rember this is a fourm where people can give there own personal opinions with out being scared.

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Originally Posted by daniel1983

....but this ain't Fauna.

Have you ever personally had a bad experience with Boaphile?

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You're a bit combative lately. I don't think it was unreasonable to point someone to Fauna for the threads on them. Do you?

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Originally Posted by jim020cricket

Like we've done before, let's agree to disagree. :rockon:

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Sure we can...


Matt, you would disagree with me just to do so.

i believe you were the one who started in on me in the start of this thred so it appears you would disagree with me just to do so. funny how you accuse me of what you did first. kind of like the old saying LET HE WHO CAST THE FIRST STONE????? ( someone will get it.)

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i believe you were the one who started in on me in the start of this thred so it appears you would disagree with me just to do so. funny how you accuse me of what you did first. kind of like the old saying LET HE WHO CAST THE FIRST STONE????? ( someone will get it.)

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Matt,

Nobody started with you. I happened to quote your post with my disagreement. Seems you are a bit sensitive. Must come with the name. Get over yourself.

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Originally Posted by jglass38

Reptile Basics makes a really high quality racks and cages. I have had the pleasure of meeting Rich in person multiple times and checking them out. He is an A+ businessman! Boaphile makes a quality product but between the long wait times and the bad customer service from them, they wouldn't be my first, second or third choice. Check out herpenclosures.com as well as apcages.com too. Good luck!

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i said nothing about how this is your opinion when you said this. so how the hell can you say you were not the first to make a uncalled for comment..

i will say nothing more on this thred as there have been way to many brought off topic in the last week.

pm me with comments.

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Originally Posted by BALLISTIC BOAS

i said nothing about how this is your opinion when you said this. so how the hell can you say you were not the first to make a uncalled for comment..

i will say nothing more on this thred as there have been way to many brought off topic in the last week.

pm me with comments.

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Brought off topic by you and your complaining. My opinion is my opinion. If you don't like it, thats too bad. Its obvious you have a problem with me that stems from your friendship with Gerry and her sudden dislike of me. Lets lay it all out. I don't need to PM you.

And to anyone else that wants to buy from Boaphile, that is AWESOME! As I said earlier, he makes a great product. In fact that was the first thing I said. Otherwise there are plenty of other guys out there making cages and racks. That is what is so great about this hobby/industry/business. So many great people to do business with that it far outweighs any of the bad guys out there.

Note: This post is my opinion only, does not constitute slander or libel and hopefully won't lead to a lawsuit.

I just ordered the STC-410 from Rich, I will be getting it Friday. I ordered it from him because of what I read here and from ordering my flexwatt and thermostate from him and the service and shipping. Didn't think I could go wrong.
I don't have any experience with the others mentioned, I am not saying anything bad about them, just had really good expereince with Rich so stuck with him.
I don't think you can go wrong with either, but like dealing with Rich.

http://junglehabitatsplastics.com/we...&products_id=7


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Originally Posted by jglass38

You're a bit combative lately. I don't think it was unreasonable to point someone to Fauna for the threads on them. Do you?

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Not combative at all...it just sounds like there is an echo around here sometimes and it hurts my head...

Recommending someone to fauna is fine.....but bringing the 'fauna-ish' drama to bp.net is not needed.

I just don't want to see threads keep turning into drawn out repetitive disagreements.... that go no where...hurt feelings....then just gets thrown into thread hell because it offers no benefit to the community.

Aiming to keep the peace pal.....LMAO.....guess I am doing a crappy job since I seem combative ;)

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Note: This post is my opinion only, does not constitute slander or libel and hopefully won't lead to a lawsuit.

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.....and that was freakin' hilarious....:D

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Originally Posted by daniel1983

Not combative at all...it just sounds like there is an echo around here sometimes and it hurts my head...

Recommending someone to fauna is fine.....but bringing the 'fauna-ish' drama to bp.net is not needed.

I just don't want to see threads keep turning into drawn out repetitive disagreements.... that go no where...hurt feelings....then just gets thrown into thread hell because it offers no benefit to the community.

Aiming to keep the peace pal.....LMAO.....guess I am doing a crappy job since I seem combative ;)

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There was no "fauna-ish drama" brought at all. The thread is Boaphile vs Reptile Basics. I gave my opinion, even pointing out that Boaphile makes a quality product. I pointed anyone who has questions about their customer service problems to Fauna and the extensive discussion of it there. Maybe the babysitting on this site needs to be brought down to a reasonable level. Look back at my post and you will see that it was not combative, argumentative or anything but an opinion as requested by the OP. Maybe there should be no more threads where opinions are requested or given. We can all just post pictures of snakes, rats and photocopies of our asses. :rockon:

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Originally Posted by daniel1983

.....and that was freakin' hilarious....:D

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Hey, I need to protect myself from the overly litigious and window lickers of the world. :D

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Originally Posted by jglass38

We can all just post pictures of snakes, rats and photocopies of our asses. :rockon:

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Now that is funny, I don't care who you are. Git-R-Done ! :giggle:

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Now that is funny, I don't care who you are. Git-R-Done ! :giggle:

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When I am not acting like an ass I like to bring the funny. I find that I am doing one or the other nearly 100% of the time. Oh well! You get what you get with me, no apologies...:D

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We can all just post pictures of snakes, rats and photocopies of our asses. :rockon:

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where do I sign up?

wow long thread.

lol
Thank you all very much for your opinions and advice. I have yet to decide and now am even a little farther off the track thanks to those who linked other good looking cages.:confuzd:

thanks alot guys :evileye:



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I've ordered from Boaphile and I've ordered from RB. A rack from Boaphile and Helix thermostats from RB.

Boaphile really has awesome quality stuff. The customer service wasn't horrible, but it wasn't awesome either. The website says that the wait for your product should be up to 8 weeks including delivery time. I had to wait 10, and while I was in contact with them about when I would be getting my product, they gave me the run around a couple times about when it would be sent out. In the end I finally got it and it was a really great product.

Both times I ordered from RB, I placed my order online and in less than a week my product arrived. No need to further contact anyone.

The only reason I would choose Boaphile over RB when cages or racks are concerned is because Boaphile offers a wider variety of cages and I like the overall appearance over any other cage. If another supplier offered those exact cages, I would buy from them instead. Unfortunately... no one does. I also like how Boaphile's site is easy to understand when deciding what customizations you want your cage to have. I would also order another Boaphile rack one, because it is really a very nice rack compared to some others I have seen, and two, because I would get another of the same model to stack them.

There is a rack that is unique to RB that I am considering purchasing, and if I do, I will compare it to the appearance of my Boaphile rack.

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Not combative at all...it just sounds like there is an echo around here sometimes and it hurts my head...

Recommending someone to fauna is fine.....but bringing the 'fauna-ish' drama to bp.net is not needed.

I just don't want to see threads keep turning into drawn out repetitive disagreements.... that go no where...hurt feelings....then just gets thrown into thread hell because it offers no benefit to the community.

Aiming to keep the peace pal.....LMAO.....guess I am doing a crappy job since I seem combative ;)

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Sounds like a good plan Daniel! ... I just hope to see it spread around evenly. ;)

-adam

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We can all just post pictures of snakes, rats and photocopies of our asses. :rockon:

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Is there a thread for the ass photocopying yet?? I've got color and B+W versions.:tongue2:

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Is there a thread for the ass photocopying yet?? I've got color and B+W versions.:tongue2:

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Killer!! Something makes me think that a thread like that won't happen here :)

Well I went to purchace the cage from reptile basics today only to find that he will no longer ship them. :(

Not a happy camper. I guess I will be waiting for the boaphile.

It is not always that long of a wait. I ordered mine on 11/5/2006 and it was del on 12/22/06. A little less than 7 weeks.
It is what it is if you want one :)

Wow thats odd. I just got a cage from reptile basics this past weekend. And i love it. Very nice cage very well made and the flexwatt is installed expertly in between two layers of plastic cant even see the seam. I hope he still ships them because i need two more....

It says this under the 2'x4'x14" cage:

"Due to the increases in FedEx shipping charges 2/5/07 we have been forced to discontinue sale of this model when shipping is required. We are still offering it as a "pickup" item at shows. If you have purchased on of these in the past and would like another or can pickup at a show please contact us and we will be glad to discuss it."


I think it is strictly this model cage.

I am sure his cages are great, but I ended up ordering a boaphile last week and am eagerly awaiting its arival. I ended up getting a gray 421 coupe. He talked me out of the white because he thinks it stresses the animal with such a bright enclosure. He says the glue also yellows over time. I have seen pics of the gray enclosures and they look very nice.

He says the lead time right now is 2-3 weeks. I will post lots of pics when it comes in :)