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  • 02-02-2007, 03:23 PM
    joepythons
    Dance at school has "dress code"
    I had to share something with you all here and hear your thoughts.I was looking at a paper my daughter brought home yesterday and started laughing when i read about some "dress code" for the schools sweetheart dance next Friday.Now i understand not allowing the "gang" or such looks because of the problems.This is the "dress code",Boys-must wear dress shirt and dress pants(khaki/docker style) not required to wear a tie. Girls-Must wear dress pants with a blouse,a dress(with straps) or a blouse and skirt.The princaple will be "inspecting" them before being allowed in to the dance.Now this is a PUBLIC school not Fort Bragg here lol.My daughter said no one is going to be at this dance because of these rules.The sad thing is that its kind of a fundraiser for the school.This is a 5th thru 8th grade school.Has anyone else had something like this at your kids school? I am not sure what this princapel is trying to succed with these types of rules.I am just very confused here lol.
  • 02-02-2007, 03:26 PM
    elevatethis
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    So, they are trying to have a semi-formal dance...

    I'm not sure what you're saying...do you think there's anything wrong with that?
  • 02-02-2007, 03:32 PM
    Jeanne
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    I see your dilemma.... I too lived in Illinois (miss it and waiting for the opportunity to go back there), my kids schools never were that strict with dance dress codes... perhaps, the principle is trying to enforce a more respectible dress code because past dances have been a bit racey and out of control..I would call the principal and talk to him or her about it and ask why he/she is being so strict to better help yourself and your daughter to understand these rules that seem a bit odd and restrictive... heck, maybe, the principle should have given a bit of an explanation.
  • 02-02-2007, 03:33 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by elevatethis
    So, they are trying to have a semi-formal dance...

    I'm not sure what you're saying...do you think there's anything wrong with that?

    See this shows how lost i am about this lol.Sorry Well some of the kids parents are barely making it with bills and such and these kids do not have the types of "accepted clothes" but they wanted to go to this dance.They never mention if its a "anything" dance just her "dress code".I do not think this is right to kinda exclude some kids because they can not afford these "dress code" clothes.My daughter does not wear a dress ever as she does not like the looks lol.We have bought her them but she refuses to wear them.She was wanting to attend this dance though.I am just wondering how someone could handle something like this,i dont want to seem like i am attacking the princapil.
  • 02-02-2007, 03:35 PM
    AzureN1ght
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    If I had to take a wild guess, it would be that they're trying to prevent the boys from dressing like they just rolled out of bed and the girls from dressing like hookers...

    I'm 22, so I haven't been so far removed from schools for long enough to forget middle school. And it seems like every year young girls dress more and more promiscuously...least that's my take on it--and also the reason I NEVER want to have children. Toooo scary.

    EDIT~ I am -not- accusing your girl of dressing promiscuously, either. It just seems to be a trend going on in society at the time being.
  • 02-02-2007, 03:38 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jeanne
    I see your dilemma.... I too lived in Illinois (miss it and waiting for the opportunity to go back there), my kids schools never were that strict with dance dress codes... perhaps, the principle is trying to enforce a more respectible dress code because past dances have been a bit racey and out of control..I would call the principal and talk to him or her about it and ask why he/she is being so strict to better help yourself and your daughter to understand these rules that seem a bit odd and restrictive... heck, maybe, the principle should have given a bit of an explanation.

    Thank you :) .See if she really wants to have a "dress code" and enforce it it should be during regular school hours.Some of these girls are wearing clothes that fit a barbie doll :eek: .The boys are wearing uncle johns clothes(5+ sizes to big) :eek: .I know everyone has the rights to wear what they want but :confused: .
  • 02-02-2007, 04:04 PM
    nd179906
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    I went to public school and we had dress codes during regular school and dances. They were very strict during the regular school hours and then during the dances they didn't seem to enforce them.
  • 02-02-2007, 04:08 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nd179906
    I went to public school and we had dress codes during regular school and dances. They were very strict during the regular school hours and then during the dances they didn't seem to enforce them.

    See your school was totaly the opposite:confused: :P .In my opinion if the kids are wearing nice clothes(no rips,rude words or such) then they should be allowed to attend the functions at school.
  • 02-02-2007, 04:11 PM
    nd179906
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joepythons
    See your school was totaly the opposite:confused: :P .In my opinion if the kids are wearing nice clothes(no rips,rude words or such) then they should be allowed to attend the functions at school.

    I would agree I also just read that it is a 5th thru 8th grade dance then those rules are just dumb.
  • 02-02-2007, 04:13 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AzureN1ght
    If I had to take a wild guess, it would be that they're trying to prevent the boys from dressing like they just rolled out of bed and the girls from dressing like hookers...

    I'm 22, so I haven't been so far removed from schools for long enough to forget middle school. And it seems like every year young girls dress more and more promiscuously...least that's my take on it--and also the reason I NEVER want to have children. Toooo scary.

    EDIT~ I am -not- accusing your girl of dressing promiscuously, either. It just seems to be a trend going on in society at the time being.

    I thought i was losing my mind as i thought your first paragraph was not there when i first read it lol.See alot of the 7th and 8th graders are dressing like your examples during normal school hours.My daughter was told she will NEVER dress like that period lol.I agree with you on the younger kids dressing like (enter word here).Its very sad:(
  • 02-02-2007, 04:14 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nd179906
    I would agree I also just read that it is a 5th thru 8th grade dance then those rules are just dumb.

    Bingo :D
  • 02-02-2007, 04:19 PM
    Amy05
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    when i was in middle school we had a dress code, but it wasnt strict like that. Basically they said, no gang stuff, guys keep their pants over their butts, girls dont have your boobs or butt sticking out. pretty much it.
    I understand their concern, and unfortunatley, if they said, "please dress appropriatley" most kids would still come dressed in...non children (i'll leave it at that) ways. They have to just lay down those rules for the ones that dont get "dont look like a thug"
  • 02-02-2007, 04:21 PM
    mousch
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    I think it's more to discourage the "dressing like hookers" part of middle school dances than anything else. I'll bet that if any of the less well off parents were to phone the principal with their dilemma (no nice dockers, etc) then a concession could be made for those kids. I'd call the school and ask about it before bringing it up with any other parents, I'm sure the principal would respect your thoughts on it!

    But you're also maybe in a larger school... in my small school everyone knew everybody anyway.
  • 02-02-2007, 04:23 PM
    jbkd
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Here in South Jersey a lot of our schools, includung my sons, have gone to a uniform for school days. They did this so that the kids would be on a more even playing field when it came to who's family has money and who's does not. We are in a low income area and this has worked really well. They don't have the problem of kids picking on each other because of what they are wearing and the parents like it too, they can buy the uniforms much cheaper than designer cloths or even low end Wal-Mart cloths. There are some basic guidelines and most kids stay within them. My wife and I volunteer a lot at the school and you can see it works well.



    I could see why your school would atempt this for a dance. It would be nice to have our children brought up to respect one another and present themselves well to others (I know I am starting to sound a little like 'Leave it to Beaver' ish). What's wronge with what they are doing? If it is a cost issue, I am sure every kid has a nice outfit to wear to family events? If your daughter does not want to wear a dress, I am sure they will let her in with a nice pair of slacks and proper top. I would much rather see that than what a lot of these young girls wear these days. (the funny thing is, when I was younger I thought girls showed to much and I was supposedly in the 'in' crowd. I was teenager in the late 80's and early 90's) I also know, I don't want my children to go about the 'growing up' part of life as fast as I did.
  • 02-02-2007, 04:29 PM
    Ginevive
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Heh; we had to wear uniform every day. let some boys' hair grow beyond his collar, and he was given a note to take home.. public schoolkids should feel lucky that they even get to wear jeans to school! We had plaid skirts!
  • 02-02-2007, 04:52 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Actually Toledo has a uniform dress code for public schools Jen. Mikey just left the public school system this past week and his new private christian school also has a very similar dress code. They do allow Friday "dress down" (non-uniform) for which you contribute $1.00 for the privilege. Personally I love the uniform code and wish my older kids had gone to a school that had it. Much better when school is not about a fashion statement or whose parents can be talked into some ridiculously overpriced pair of shoes. I love the no arguing about what to wear to school too...makes my job as a parent and the morning rush that much easier.

    Joe as far as the rules for the dance this is just my personal take on it as a parent so please see it that way. I see nothing wrong with the school who is hosting this dance having an expectation about how the kids should be dressed for it. There's no large cash outlay in that list of clothing, nothing odd or extreme in it. For me as well, this is a moral thing about not encouraging my kids to buck the rules. The school is hosting the dance, they have a rule about proper attire....if you want to go you'll dress accordingly, if you don't want to follow the rules...then simply do not attend.

    Rules that are made just for the sake of rule making and are extreme or abusive are wrong. I've always supported my kids speaking out against those but on the flip side a rule that is reasonable is to be respected and followed with a good attitude. I'm a big believer in that sort of thing and those lessons start early in our home. Life is about a lot of rules really, sadly it seems kids lately seem to think they are exempt from most of them.
  • 02-02-2007, 04:56 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mousch
    I think it's more to discourage the "dressing like hookers" part of middle school dances than anything else. I'll bet that if any of the less well off parents were to phone the principal with their dilemma (no nice dockers, etc) then a concession could be made for those kids. I'd call the school and ask about it before bringing it up with any other parents, I'm sure the principal would respect your thoughts on it!

    But you're also maybe in a larger school... in my small school everyone knew everybody anyway.

    We live in a 5500 population village lol.We are to small to be concidered a city.Well it seems i do not even have to ask anything at the school because the school board is now involved.I guess alot of parents called in asking what was the deal here.They were surprised(school board) because they were unaware of these rules :eek: .This could get very interesting:P .
  • 02-02-2007, 05:00 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jbkd
    Here in South Jersey a lot of our schools, includung my sons, have gone to a uniform for school days. They did this so that the kids would be on a more even playing field when it came to who's family has money and who's does not. We are in a low income area and this has worked really well. They don't have the problem of kids picking on each other because of what they are wearing and the parents like it too, they can buy the uniforms much cheaper than designer cloths or even low end Wal-Mart cloths. There are some basic guidelines and most kids stay within them. My wife and I volunteer a lot at the school and you can see it works well.



    I could see why your school would atempt this for a dance. It would be nice to have our children brought up to respect one another and present themselves well to others (I know I am starting to sound a little like 'Leave it to Beaver' ish). What's wronge with what they are doing? If it is a cost issue, I am sure every kid has a nice outfit to wear to family events? If your daughter does not want to wear a dress, I am sure they will let her in with a nice pair of slacks and proper top. I would much rather see that than what a lot of these young girls wear these days. (the funny thing is, when I was younger I thought girls showed to much and I was supposedly in the 'in' crowd. I was teenager in the late 80's and early 90's) I also know, I don't want my children to go about the 'growing up' part of life as fast as I did.

    I understand you view.Now are you Wally or Ward lol.Please read my post ahead of this one for the update.
  • 02-02-2007, 05:08 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankykeno
    Actually Toledo has a uniform dress code for public schools Jen. Mikey just left the public school system this past week and his new private christian school also has a very similar dress code. They do allow Friday "dress down" (non-uniform) for which you contribute $1.00 for the privilege. Personally I love the uniform code and wish my older kids had gone to a school that had it. Much better when school is not about a fashion statement or whose parents can be talked into some ridiculously overpriced pair of shoes. I love the no arguing about what to wear to school too...makes my job as a parent and the morning rush that much easier.

    Joe as far as the rules for the dance this is just my personal take on it as a parent so please see it that way. I see nothing wrong with the school who is hosting this dance having an expectation about how the kids should be dressed for it. There's no large cash outlay in that list of clothing, nothing odd or extreme in it. For me as well, this is a moral thing about not encouraging my kids to buck the rules. The school is hosting the dance, they have a rule about proper attire....if you want to go you'll dress accordingly, if you don't want to follow the rules...then simply do not attend.

    Rules that are made just for the sake of rule making and are extreme or abusive are wrong. I've always supported my kids speaking out against those but on the flip side a rule that is reasonable is to be respected and followed with a good attitude. I'm a big believer in that sort of thing and those lessons start early in our home. Life is about a lot of rules really, sadly it seems kids lately seem to think they are exempt from most of them.

    Joanna,i have no problem with the kids(mine included) having a dress code but i think it should be for regular school hours also.We are not poor nor rich but my daughter has enough clothes though and they are all properly fitting her.She does not want to go now because a couple of her freinds will not be thier because of the "dress code".The kids are not in torn up clothes just most have just blue jeans and other not accepted clothes.Please see my update.
  • 02-02-2007, 05:12 PM
    Snakeman
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    my old high school didnt have any dress codes(that i know of).the students just knew what to wear during school dances.like for prom i had to wear a tuxedo and so did all the other boys that went.the girls wore dresses ad things like that.
  • 02-02-2007, 05:16 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Snakeman
    my old high school didnt have any dress codes(that i know of).the students just knew what to wear during school dances.like for prom i had to wear a tuxedo and so did all the other boys that went.the girls wore dresses ad things like that.

    See i think the princapil is trying to make this dance into a prom like setting.I was told she come up with these rules a couple days ago.
  • 02-02-2007, 05:21 PM
    Snakeman
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    yeah i guess. but these are KIDS we're talking about.prom is for young adults.kids wouldnt really know what to wear at a dance like that.
  • 02-02-2007, 05:23 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    The School Board is involved? You've got to be kidding LOL. Sorry but really Joe, there are so many important issues that parents could be concerned about and go to the Board over (I ought to know lately) that a principal simply trying to have a nice dance with nicely dressed children attending....well seems to me a bit odd that the parents aren't supportive of this. Personally I'd be thrilled that the school wanted to encourage young people to see that it's nice to dress decently (certainly not semi or prom formal is expected here) in social settings and support the principal all the way on this one. Just my take on it though.
  • 02-02-2007, 05:28 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Snakeman
    yeah i guess. but these are KIDS we're talking about.prom is for young adults.kids wouldnt really know what to wear at a dance like that.

    In my opinion she is taking the chance for the kids to come out of thier shells if you will by making them not want to attend it.Now be truthfull,i was scared to DEATH at my first dance at school to even ask a girl to dance at first.Its funny because we all knew each other but not in the "dance type" settings lol.I agree they should wear NICE clothes but not prom type clothes,so everyone can attend if they choose to.
  • 02-02-2007, 05:32 PM
    Amy05
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    there are so many rules here, but we have over 3500 kids in the school, and it is REALLY hard for them to keep us all in line. hec, in the rule book we are not even aloud to bring cinnamon to school, but they basically stick to no fighting, keep the cursing down, no cell phones, try not to wear pajamas, go to class, and dont look at inapropriate things on the internet.
  • 02-02-2007, 05:33 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankykeno
    The School Board is involved? You've got to be kidding LOL. Sorry but really Joe, there are so many important issues that parents could be concerned about and go to the Board over (I ought to know lately) that a principal simply trying to have a nice dance with nicely dressed children attending....well seems to me a bit odd that the parents aren't supportive of this. Personally I'd be thrilled that the school wanted to encourage young people to see that it's nice to dress decently (certainly not semi or prom formal is expected here) in social settings and support the principal all the way on this one. Just my take on it though.

    Yea it shocked me also.Like i said just a minute ago i see no problem letting all the kids to wear nice clothes so everyone can attend the dance.I think its something about how she just popped up with these rules for just this dance as she never said anything at the other dances.The whole school should have a certain nice dress code in my opinion.
  • 02-02-2007, 05:38 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Amy05
    there are so many rules here, but we have over 3500 kids in the school, and it is REALLY hard for them to keep us all in line. hec, in the rule book we are not even aloud to bring cinnamon to school, but they basically stick to no fighting, keep the cursing down, no cell phones, try not to wear pajamas, go to class, and dont look at inapropriate things on the internet.

    Your school has almost more kids then out whole area(5500 people) is lol.Some of the 7th and 8th graders have the biker language problems and they just walk out in front of you even when they are not in the school crossing sections.Its weird because the principil never corrects the students for thier launguage or such but she has something for this dance.Maybe someday i will find out what is really going on lol.
  • 02-02-2007, 05:42 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Perhaps she is trying to find a starting point Joe to slowly turn around some of the actions and attitude of her student body. Sadly though if parents are complaining to the Board over it and she's getting no backing from the parents and her Board, it will likely fail. Sad to say but often the best educators that try to step outside the strict guidelines of cirriculum give up because of stuff like this. Our recent decision to put Mikey into a private school where it's common place to teach morals, manners, etc. along with the ABC's is something I'm extremely pleased about.
  • 02-02-2007, 05:51 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankykeno
    Perhaps she is trying to find a starting point Joe to slowly turn around some of the actions and attitude of her student body. Sadly though if parents are complaining to the Board over it and she's getting no backing from the parents and her Board, it will likely fail. Sad to say but often the best educators that try to step outside the strict guidelines of cirriculum give up because of stuff like this. Our recent decision to put Mikey into a private school where it's common place to teach morals, manners, etc. along with the ABC's is something I'm extremely pleased about.

    Joanna,i think its the way she come about doing this.In the note it states she has the final decision and those not wearing these clothes will not get in the doors.I did not get to talk to the other parents for long so i do not know the whole story on this.It does state in the school rules that anything to do with the schools functions has to be approved by our school board and i guess she did not do this step.
  • 02-02-2007, 07:46 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Ok i just talked to a neighbor that is involved with the school district.The school board is NOT involved with anything concerning the school dance dress code.I guess they had a 7th grader that was injured at the school this past Tuesday.They had to call a ambulance because his head was deeply gashed open.I was told the school did not contact the kids parents at all the hospital did.This goes to show proof how things can get crossed up i guess.Next time i need to know something concerning the school i guess i will talk to my neighbor and get the truth the first time lol.
  • 02-02-2007, 08:06 PM
    jotay
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    I have always hated dress codes at dances or schools but if there is not some sort of code kids nowdays would wear stuff that would freak even me out and I am pretty darn open minded and all for the whole freedom of expression thing.

    I think as along as bellys on girls aren't showing and no foul or suggestive shirts etc. then people who have decent clean clothes should be able to attend.

    It's 5-8 graders not a prom and having very set rules for semi formal attire is ostracizing some children who may not have that type of attire. Sure it's easy to say that type of clothing is easy to get but I am willing to bet some childrens family just doesn't have that extra $$ to spend.

    There kids for heavens sake. Let'em go and have fun. The dress up rule is for the adults sake not the kids
  • 02-02-2007, 08:20 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jotay
    I have always hated dress codes at dances or schools but if there is not some sort of code kids nowdays would wear stuff that would freak even me out and I am pretty darn open minded and all for the whole freedom of expression thing.

    I think as along as bellys on girls aren't showing and no foul or suggestive shirts etc. then people who have decent clean clothes should be able to attend.

    It's 5-8 graders not a prom and having very set rules for semi formal attire is ostracizing some children who may not have that type of attire. Sure it's easy to say that type of clothing is easy to get but I am willing to bet some childrens family just doesn't have that extra $$ to spend.

    There kids for heavens sake. Let'em go and have fun. The dress up rule is for the adults sake not the kids

    Jotay thanks for your input here :) .I know some may think i am griping about this because my kid does not have these "proper clothes" to be able to attend this dance.I assure you that is not the case here.I am really thinking of my daughters freinds that do not have these "acceptable clothes".It is almost like the school is saying only the kids that have all A's can attend the dance.They allready had a x-mas dance and they had no problems with unacceptable clothes being worn then.Everyone wore nice clothes and not skimpy clothes like they do during normal school hours.
  • 02-05-2007, 12:56 PM
    Snakeman
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jotay
    It's 5-8 graders not a prom and having very set rules for semi formal attire is ostracizing some children who may not have that type of attire. Sure it's easy to say that type of clothing is easy to get but I am willing to bet some childrens family just doesn't have that extra $$ to spend.

    There kids for heavens sake. Let'em go and have fun. The dress up rule is for the adults sake not the kids

    same thing i was talking about.
  • 02-05-2007, 07:40 PM
    Blu Mongoose
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by elevatethis
    So, they are trying to have a semi-formal dance...

    I'm not sure what you're saying...do you think there's anything wrong with that?

    My friends daughter is going to such a school. Her problem is they spent a lot of money on a strapless gown and were not informed of the "no strapless dresses" till 1 week before the dance. Now they have to scramble to get another dress. Besides the point they spent time hunting for this dress and the price they paid for it. Schools need to get ALL rules up front beforehand. She is hoping she will be able to return the first dress.
  • 02-05-2007, 07:51 PM
    Vomitore
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Pfft. What next? No alcohol? :D
  • 02-05-2007, 08:43 PM
    wolfy-hound
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Honestly if the school puts on the dance, then they get to make the rules. A set of 'dress pants and a blouse' or a dress with straps isn't very expensive, especially if you get them from thrift stores or goodwill. That's what I did growing up, and what I continue to do. Most all kids seem to have a decent outfit, for church or whatever.
    It seems to me like they wanted to prevent the dance from turning into either a social afterschool gathering, or into hooker/gangsta city. At any rate, you avoid having some kids show up underdressed while others are overdressed by having a dress code. It's not such a huge deal honestly. Don't like the dress code, then don't attend/let your kids attend.
    Wolfy
  • 02-05-2007, 10:24 PM
    jotay
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wolfy-hound
    Honestly if the school puts on the dance, then they get to make the rules. A set of 'dress pants and a blouse' or a dress with straps isn't very expensive, especially if you get them from thrift stores or goodwill. That's what I did growing up, and what I continue to do. Most all kids seem to have a decent outfit, for church or whatever.
    It seems to me like they wanted to prevent the dance from turning into either a social afterschool gathering, or into hooker/gangsta city. At any rate, you avoid having some kids show up underdressed while others are overdressed by having a dress code. It's not such a huge deal honestly. Don't like the dress code, then don't attend/let your kids attend.
    Wolfy

    That's good if your talking middle or high school, but we are talking children that are 9-12 year olds. I don't think the hooker/gangsta really applies. If this is a private school than I am all for it but a public school, well with all the PC rules public schools have so as to not offend this one or that one , then I don't think such a rule is fitting or in line w/ their " let no one feel different or left out "
    But your point on if you don't like it stay home is a good one and if the dance was not a success then I am sure they would get the message that the majority didn't approve.
  • 02-05-2007, 10:29 PM
    wolfy-hound
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    When you see 5 year olds wearing knee high boots and fishnets, you probaly figure its time to treat all them the same. With the Bratz dolls, the Britney generation and all the ideas put into their heads, even 4th graders will dress incorrectly for their age.
    But mainly, whoever puts on the dance gets to say how the participants dress. I like that the girls get the choice of pants.
    Wolfy
  • 02-05-2007, 10:37 PM
    jotay
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wolfy-hound
    When you see 5 year olds wearing knee high boots and fishnets, you probaly figure its time to treat all them the same. With the Bratz dolls, the Britney generation and all the ideas put into their heads, even 4th graders will dress incorrectly for their age.
    But mainly, whoever puts on the dance gets to say how the participants dress. I like that the girls get the choice of pants.
    Wolfy

    You know that is a darn shame! I am glad I had a son who's biggest deal is to wear sports jerseys. If a 4th grade girl is dressing like that someone needs to check out the parents.

    Just seems strange a public school would state such a dress code. I know the public school systems here in the Metro DC area never do or say anything that might offend anyone. I can only guess how that dress code would go over around here.
  • 02-05-2007, 10:45 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jotay
    You know that is a darn shame! I am glad I had a son who's biggest deal is to wear sports jerseys. If a 4th grade girl is dressing like that someone needs to check out the parents.

    Just seems strange a public school would state such a dress code. I know the public school systems here in the Metro DC area never do or say anything that might offend anyone. I can only guess how that dress code would go over around here.

    Well so far its going to be the principil and the cleanup crew at this one lol.Its funny because everyone feels that the forced rules at the last moments are unfair and this is from the kids not the parents.So i guess the kids have made thier choice and not go period.
  • 02-05-2007, 11:56 PM
    Shadowspider
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Quote:

    This is a 5th thru 8th grade school.
    This right here makes me wonder....what's so wrong with such a dress code? They're KIDS...children for God's sake, they don't need to be and shouldn't be dressing like thugs, gigolos or hussies in the first place.

    I'll probably get slammed for my point of view because it is rather conservative (and no, I haven't read the whole thread so I don't know what the general conscience is) but, IMO, prepubescent children shouldn't be dressing like Brittany Spears or gang bangers in the first place. A child isn't "sexy" and shouldn't be viewed....or allowed to dress....like they are.

    So, basically, I don't see one single thing wrong with that "dress code". If no one shows up to the dance then it just goes to show how degraded our society has become and how, IMO, irresponsible parents are in letting their babies dress like $l**s.

    Just my $.02

    P. S.
    I'm not saying that you allow your kids to dress that way but a lot of parents do, and I understand the limited income/budget thing 100%.
  • 02-06-2007, 12:20 AM
    joepythons
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shadowspider
    This right here makes me wonder....what's so wrong with such a dress code? They're KIDS...children for God's sake, they don't need to be and shouldn't be dressing like thugs, gigolos or hussies in the first place.

    I'll probably get slammed for my point of view because it is rather conservative (and no, I haven't read the whole thread so I don't know what the general conscience is) but, IMO, prepubescent children shouldn't be dressing like Brittany Spears or gang bangers in the first place. A child isn't "sexy" and shouldn't be viewed....or allowed to dress....like they are.

    So, basically, I don't see one single thing wrong with that "dress code". If no one shows up to the dance then it just goes to show how degraded our society has become and how, IMO, irresponsible parents are in letting their babies dress like $l**s.

    Just my $.02

    P. S.
    I'm not saying that you allow your kids to dress that way but a lot of parents do, and I understand the limited income/budget thing 100%.

    First off i did not post this thread for slamming anyone.Now onto the reasons why the KIDS are not wanting to attend this dance.Would you go to a dance where some of your freinds were unable to attend because they do not have the "special" dress code acceptable clothes? Some of the people in our community are having a VERY hard time right now paying the bills let alone spend money on some "special" clothes.Sorry to say this but not everyone has a suit or Sunday clothes as everyone else does.What is wrong with wearing NICE clean proper fitting clothes? I ask if we could let this thread die down or have a lock placed on it before it turns into one of those unneeded threads.Now can everyone please be NICE to one another?
  • 02-06-2007, 12:33 AM
    Shadowspider
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    I'm sorry I upset you, it was not my intention to do so, the furthest thing from my mind actually.
    I *do* understand where you're coming from. If my kids attended public school they would most likely not have specific attire for the occasion either with our budget.
    Perhaps your initial post was a bit vague or the principal was too vague...or both?
    I read it as, the children need to be dressed respectable, and *examples* given as to what "respectable" might be, IE, dockers, etc.
    I did not read the OP as, these are the *only* clothing that can be worn.

    Dress pants, blouse, skirt, etc. can take on many meanings for people. I think that the principal needs to explain herself better unless she wants a school full of ticked off parents to contend with.

    Now, if the school is not enforcing such rules during regular school hours and they want to do so during a dance...then the principal needs to have the dumb stick removed from her rump.

    Again, just my thoughts and not meant to anger anyone. :D
  • 02-06-2007, 12:45 AM
    joepythons
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shadowspider
    I'm sorry I upset you, it was not my intention to do so, the furthest thing from my mind actually.
    I *do* understand where you're coming from. If my kids attended public school they would most likely not have specific attire for the occasion either with our budget.
    Perhaps your initial post was a bit vague or the principal was too vague...or both?
    I read it as, the children need to be dressed respectable, and *examples* given as to what "respectable" might be, IE, dockers, etc.
    I did not read the OP as, these are the *only* clothing that can be worn.

    Dress pants, blouse, skirt, etc. can take on many meanings for people. I think that the principal needs to explain herself better unless she wants a school full of ticked off parents to contend with.

    Now, if the school is not enforcing such rules during regular school hours and they want to do so during a dance...then the principal needs to have the dumb stick removed from her rump.

    Again, just my thoughts and not meant to anger anyone. :D

    Nope not upsetting me at all :) .You are correct on noting that the rules for respectable clothes are not being enforced during normal school hours.You also have the same concept on the principle as the kids do.This principle was brought in to clean up the problems in the school,she has done nothing to date.Sorry i quoted you and then in the same post wrote that i wanted no one being slammed and having a lock placed here.Its all in being nice to one another in my opinion :) .
  • 02-06-2007, 03:58 PM
    jotay
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shadowspider
    This right here makes me wonder....what's so wrong with such a dress code? They're KIDS...children for God's sake, they don't need to be and shouldn't be dressing like thugs, gigolos or hussies in the first place.

    I'll probably get slammed for my point of view because it is rather conservative (and no, I haven't read the whole thread so I don't know what the general conscience is) but, IMO, prepubescent children shouldn't be dressing like Brittany Spears or gang bangers in the first place. A child isn't "sexy" and shouldn't be viewed....or allowed to dress....like they are.

    So, basically, I don't see one single thing wrong with that "dress code". If no one shows up to the dance then it just goes to show how degraded our society has become and how, IMO, irresponsible parents are in letting their babies dress like $l**s.



    Just my $.02

    P. S.
    I'm not saying that you allow your kids to dress that way but a lot of parents do, and I understand the limited income/budget thing 100%.





    What Joe stated. We don't condone dressing like thugs or hookers. But if the clothes are clean and well fitting then it should be ok.
  • 02-06-2007, 04:29 PM
    AkivaSmith
    Re: Dance at school has "dress code"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Blu Mongoose
    My friends daughter is going to such a school. Her problem is they spent a lot of money on a strapless gown and were not informed of the "no strapless dresses" till 1 week before the dance. Now they have to scramble to get another dress. Besides the point they spent time hunting for this dress and the price they paid for it. Schools need to get ALL rules up front beforehand. She is hoping she will be able to return the first dress.

    She can wear a "nice" t-shirt under the strapless dress. OR get a Half Coat to wear over it. There are many ways to make a strapless dress "Kosher".

    My daughter goes to a school where no part of the leg can show (absolutely NO Pants), and the arm must be covered past the elbow. Jewish/Religious.

    It is a real pain now because she is 12yo and all of her friends are having their BAS MITZVAHS. She has to wear formal dresses to these occasions. We now have 4 outfits that she chooses from. She "doesn't want to be seen wearing the same old thing every time!"

    It is a real problem, but it will be over in another year as all her friends get older....
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