Question on shipping out of the USA

I would like to know how breeders are able to ship reptiles out of the USA.How long does it take for a reptile to arrive in (say the UK) for example? I am not wanting to ship,just wondering how it gets done.Thanks

You need a license from US fish and wildlife to export and import, If cities paper work is needed that can take 4 - 6 months .

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Originally Posted by joepythons

I would like to know how breeders are able to ship reptiles out of the USA.How long does it take for a reptile to arrive in (say the UK) for example? I am not wanting to ship,just wondering how it gets done.Thanks

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Originally Posted by ECLARK

You need a license from US fish and wildlife to export and import, If cities paper work is needed that can take 4 - 6 months .

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Wow i thought fedex was slow :8: .Thanks Ed

The UK is pretty quick ... 7 hours maybe ... I get direct flights out of BWI to Hethrow ... I'v shipped to Hong Kong a couple of times and those flights are crazy ... 36 - 48 hours ... 5 or 6 lay overs ... sweating bullets the whole time.

I'm shipping to Malaysia in a couple of months, that one is going to be fun. ;)

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

The UK is pretty quick ... 7 hours maybe ... I get direct flights out of BWI to Hethrow ... I'v shipped to Hong Kong a couple of times and those flights are crazy ... 36 - 48 hours ... 5 or 6 lay overs ... sweating bullets the whole time.

I'm shipping to Malaysia in a couple of months, that one is going to be fun. ;)

-adam

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Wow 7hrs :eek:.What is it on the stealth or the concord :P .Now Malaysia sounds like it will be a ton of fun :P .What does it cost to ship them on these direct flights? Does the snakes get a inflight meal or snacks :8:

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

The UK is pretty quick ... 7 hours maybe ... I get direct flights out of BWI to Hethrow ... I'v shipped to Hong Kong a couple of times and those flights are crazy ... 36 - 48 hours ... 5 or 6 lay overs ... sweating bullets the whole time.

I'm shipping to Malaysia in a couple of months, that one is going to be fun. ;)

-adam

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Man, I dont know how you do it, must be nerves of steel LOL I shipped a snake out to B.C. this summer, it took 29 hours total, with an overnight stop in Toronto....I felt sick the entire time, until I got word it had arrived OK I hope that lessens with experience, though I doubt it will in my case LOL

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Originally Posted by Uncle Festae

Man, I dont know how you do it, must be nerves of steel LOL I shipped a snake out to B.C. this summer, it took 29 hours total, with an overnight stop in Toronto....I felt sick the entire time, until I got word it had arrived OK I hope that lessens with experience, though I doubt it will in my case LOL

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The first time I shipped to Hong Kong I was a mess ... I think I cried on the shoulders of more than a few people here on the site ... it was my longest international ever and even the inspectors at the Fish and Wildlife office were like "you sure about this" ... big bucks too ... ugghhhh ... then I got the call that they were all perfect and my customer was tickled pink with everything and I felt a lot better ... after that, I was ready for anything!! ;) ... Besides, I love knowning that 8 Ball t-shirts are being worn in 9 different countries at this point ... and the list will grow this summer for sure!! :D

-adam

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Originally Posted by Uncle Festae

Man, I dont know how you do it, must be nerves of steel LOL I shipped a snake out to B.C. this summer, it took 29 hours total, with an overnight stop in Toronto....I felt sick the entire time, until I got word it had arrived OK I hope that lessens with experience, though I doubt it will in my case LOL

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29 hours? man you could drive it there in that time. i suggest finding a more direct flight in the future... if not for the snake, but for the grey hairs it will save you :giggle:

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Originally Posted by recycling goddess

29 hours? man you could drive it there in that time. i suggest finding a more direct flight in the future... if not for the snake, but for the grey hairs it will save you :giggle:

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Aleesha, not possible.....London Airport will not ship cargo direct to Vancouver.. Toronto Airport will not ship direct to Castlegar (which is where the shipment was going) ..so what had to happen is...Take snake to London Airport at 1 pm, Depart from london at 3pm (snake has to be on the plane 2 hours before departure time) arrive in Toronto later in the day, sit in Toronto until the 4:30am flight to Vancouver, arrive in vancouver later in the day...Sit and wait until the next available flight from Vancouver to piddly little Castlegar, top that off with the unexpected 3 hour delay that occured, plus the fact that the recipient lives 2 hours away from the airport, and thats how you get 29 hours ;)

Setting up flights, and the way flights are routed when dealing with cargo, is the extreme opposite of passenger flights ;) you should try it sometime, it's a real treat LOL I really do wish it was as simple as setting up up a direct flight from A to B, but when you're dealing with cargo, it just aint so :(

oh man that sucks chris.

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Originally Posted by Uncle Festae

Aleesha, not possible.....London Airport will not ship cargo direct to Vancouver.. Toronto Airport will not ship direct to Castlegar (which is where the shipment was going) ..so what had to happen is...Take snake to London Airport at 1 pm, Depart from london at 3pm (snake has to be on the plane 2 hours before departure time) arrive in Toronto later in the day, sit in Toronto until the 4:30am flight to Vancouver, arrive in vancouver later in the day...Sit and wait until the next available flight from Vancouver to piddly little Castlegar, top that off with the unexpected 3 hour delay that occured, plus the fact that the recipient lives 2 hours away from the airport, and thats how you get 29 hours ;)

Setting up flights, and the way flights are routed when dealing with cargo, is the extreme opposite of passenger flights ;) you should try it sometime, it's a real treat LOL I really do wish it was as simple as setting up up a direct flight from A to B, but when you're dealing with cargo, it just aint so :(

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They have a lot of rules as far as layovers, connections, and air plane type when it comes to live animals ... For example ... Delta Dash you only need 60 minutes between flights ... Delta Priority First, you need 2.5 hours ... it's crazy ... a lot of times it's the exact same flight, but because of the different methods you won't get on the ones you want.

But in the end, I'm just happy that there are companies willing to ship live snakes ... because if there weren't ... we'd be FUBAR. ;) :D

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

But in the end, I'm just happy that there are companies willing to ship live snakes ... because if there weren't ... we'd be FUBAR. ;) :D

-adam

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Amen to that! I know that if I couldnt ship, that would limit my market to about 20 people LMAO..... I'd be FUBAR and then some LOL

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

They have a lot of rules as far as layovers, connections, and air plane type when it comes to live animals ... For example ... Delta Dash you only need 60 minutes between flights ... Delta Priority First, you need 2.5 hours ... it's crazy ... a lot of times it's the exact same flight, but because of the different methods you won't get on the ones you want.

But in the end, I'm just happy that there are companies willing to ship live snakes ... because if there weren't ... we'd be FUBAR. ;) :D

-adam

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FUBAR :eek: ,I have not heard that word in awhile :8: .Tango & Cash fan or such huh? lol.

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Originally Posted by joepythons

FUBAR :eek: ,I have not heard that word in awhile :8: .Tango & Cash fan or such huh? lol.

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Actually, I was taught the term in boot camp way before tango and cash ... it's in the Marine Corps Guidebook for Marines. ;)

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

Actually, I was taught the term in boot camp way before tango and cash ... it's in the Marine Corps Guidebook for Marines. ;)

-adam

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OK i see! So its them that jacked FUBAR from the Marines :P.:8:

So if I wanted to get a snake shipped to my closest airport (Edinburgh) there could be a total nightmare even once it's arrived in the u.k.?


Thats kind of worrying.:(

I just had dreams of me taking a taxi to and from the airport and dancing at the terminal building as the direct flight drew up and strolling casually home with a new bundle of joy - giggling like a schoolgirl natch.



dr del

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Originally Posted by dr del

So if I wanted to get a snake shipped to my closest airport (Edinburgh) there could be a total nightmare even once it's arrived in the u.k.?

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A good breeder that is experienced in shipping will know how to "work the system" with the airlines and get an animal from point a to point b problem free ... just make sure you work with someone with a lot of experience shipping and you'll have no problems. ;)

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

A good breeder that is experienced in shipping will know how to "work the system" with the airlines and get an animal from point a to point b problem free ... just make sure you work with someone with a lot of experience shipping and you'll have no problems. ;)

-adam

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Thank you for clearing that up.:)

It's nice to know roughly how long the cites etc takes but could any one give me a ballpark figure on the shipping to the uk?

Don't worry I'm a looong way away from ordering ( still testing rack components) so won't stress on the accuracy of prices/timescales etc was just curious and wondering how much it adds onto the cost of the animals in a general way.

At the moment the exchange rates are in my favour but obviously that's a changeable thing as well - but you guys have an amazing choice of animals at what seems (to me) to be amazing prices that I cant help a touch of the old green eyed monsters as I drool at the websites.:D



dr del

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Originally Posted by dr del

Thank you for clearing that up.:)

It's nice to know roughly how long the cites etc takes but could any one give me a ballpark figure on the shipping to the uk?

Don't worry I'm a looong way away from ordering ( still testing rack components) so won't stress on the accuracy of prices/timescales etc was just curious and wondering how much it adds onto the cost of the animals in a general way.

At the moment the exchange rates are in my favour but obviously that's a changeable thing as well - but you guys have an amazing choice of animals at what seems (to me) to be amazing prices that I cant help a touch of the old green eyed monsters as I drool at the websites.:D



dr del

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Air Cargo to the UK and Europe generally runs around $250 (US) depending on fuel surcharges ... and some airports across the pond charge transfer fees just to connect through them ... Then, the CITES permit is $100 (US) and the US Fish & Wildlife inspection fee is $50 (US) ... so I basically tell my UK and European customers $400 (US) give or take, but depending on the size of the order, that number is flexible.

Hope that helps.

-adam