Carpet questions

hi im pretty new to the site although i have been reading posts fora month or so but this is my first thread.


Anyway i have had my ball for a while now and am thinking about getting a bigger more difficult snake my ideas are Tai beauty snake, Costal carpet and jungle carpet

I know quite a biut about the Tai's but not so much on carpets. so i have a couple of questions.


1. how big do costals get also what is the girth is it similair to a red tail boa girth wise?

2. how big do jungles get how is the girth

3. any relible breeder links would be apreciated

4. do you reccomend these snakes?!

5. Can you post pics of any full grown jungles or costals with a object of refrence

6. any other radom info aprecciated


sry for the typos

THX
Ty

Coastals get the biggest, some being over 10'...I have a female around 9' + and she eats 3 or 4 Jumbo rats at a time...

Irian Jayas stay the smallest...Around 5' full grown...I hope to produce I.J. Granites and I.J. 66% het Granites this year...

Carpets are great out going snakes...They are also a few genetic Morphs being produced...Jon

Female Coastal Carpet
http://coldbloodedaddiction.com/site...s/2coastal.jpg

Irian Jaya 100% het Granite
http://coldbloodedaddiction.com/site...s/2papuan2.jpg

Granite IJs? You suck lol. :P

Thank you very much but what about the girth is it the same say as a red tail boa :confused:

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Originally Posted by ReptileFan

Thank you very much but what about the girth is it the same say as a red tail boa :confused:

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There's a pet store near me that has a really pretty, mature Carpet on display. He(?) looks to be about as big around as a standard soda can.

ok thank you so a more slender snake

Check out www.acreptiles.com

Anthony is a great breeder (I bought my male IJCP from him) and he has a great caresheet about carpet pythons on his website.

even a 10'+ coastal wont get all that big around as long as they're properly fed. i've seen some picture of carpets that are pretty obese but they're a fairly slender snake that tends to bulk up earlier in life than a lot of others. the cool thing about coastals especially is that they get this gigantic knuckle head as they get older.

:) so for a second snake would you reccomend a jungle or a costal


Also which would you say are nicer looking


lastly how much do the morphs of these guys run for

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Originally Posted by ReptileFan

:) so for a second snake would you reccomend a jungle or a costal


Also which would you say are nicer looking


lastly how much do the morphs of these guys run for

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I would go with a jungle carpet as they are a bit smaller than a coastal.

As far as which is nicer, that is personal opinion. I have sold off my adult jungles to focus on my coastal and IJ projects.

The only jungle carpet morph is the zebra. This is not in the States yet. The coastal morphs are still running close to $1000+. The only ones accessible currently are the tiger and jaguar.

personally i think coastals are the nicest carpets (but i'm a little biased considering that 80% of the snakes i currently own are coastals).
i'd recommend a quality 'normal' sib from the jag line myself. i'll post some pics this week of my humble collection if that'll help - you should be able to see the diversity of color and patterns available... most of the normal sibs are great quality but the price is not too outrageous.

thank you very much do you have any coastalbreeders you recomend

I've been thinking about my next snake for a while too, and i've pretty much come to the decision that its going to be a jungle carpet...I don't know why for sure, I just really like them.

there are several breeders with very nice carpets... if i were you i'd wait till this spring/summer when everyone's 07's hatch out. i listed all the people i've gotten my carpets from on the post i put up; i'd also highly recommend australian addiction from what i've seen and heard.

Thats what I think i'm going to do, unless I happen to find a good one at the show i'm going to in a couple months.

I'm sure you'll catch me posting about wanting one when i'm ready. I'm actually doing some research and I want to build some really cool custom cages first. I'll post pics of the process when I start...

I have some pure VPI line jungles and coastals from the 06 season still available on my website, if you are interested.

We also have been holding back some nice '06 jungles to see how they will color up, and will more than likely be selling a few of them once things warm up and if you are interested let us know so that we can contact you when they are available because I am pretty sure they will go fairly quick. But looking around and talking to people is for sure the best way to get yourself prepared for a good purchase that you will be happy about over the long term. Plus, that way you get to know other morelia addicts and that is always enjoyable as well. Anyway, good luck with the hunt and for sure ask any more questions if you have any, there are quite a few morelia people on here to help you out.

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Originally Posted by MPenn

The only jungle carpet morph is the zebra. This is not in the States yet.

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You don't think there is one in the states yet? I know I haven't heard anything announced, but I have a hard time believing that someone hasn't picked one up yet. But then again...maybe no one has yet. I sure am excited for them once they do get over here. Such a cool morph!!!

Hi

I just started with morelia and have a Jungle..and i can tell you they are great very great:d..

I think a jungle is a better point simpley because i do not like the normale coastel

Gr stijn

Can you keep jungle carpets in a rack?

Hi

yes i think you can..but i now that some people dont think this..But thats what you like

When i have a home for myself i will go to build a Rack system for Carpets..and for Ball pythons of course :P :)

You can keep them in a rack...but I think once you have some (can't stop at one) I don't think you will want to. Just so much better to be able to see them moving around. Since all balls do is sit around anyway they aren't too entertaining, but carpets move much more, and I think they utilize any additional space you give them more than balls will. But ya, if you are just worried about keeping them alive and breeding them, you can do that in a rack.
Below are some pics of a semi-arboreal rack that I built. The tubs are ~2ft long, ~18 in wide, and ~18 in tall. So, they are good for juvie carpets up to small adult males. Kind of a happy medium for me so that I could pack more in, but still have a somewhat open look. And, as you can tell, I built the rack for functionality...so it isn't pretty, but it does its job and has for years now.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...l/ARBRACK1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...l/ARBRACK2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...l/ARBRACK3.jpg

Hi

Ben yes you are right here..But i do this also onley for Youngster and for carpets about 1-2 years then i move them to a Bigger Cages. Because the move much more then other snakes

Gr stijn

Ya...I guess I shoulda figured you'd just need an aboreal rack. Personally, I really like the look (I don't own any yet, so I can't speak for functionality) of animal plastics. I'll most likely end up picking up one of their carpet display cages...very nice!

i'm trying to decide between boaphile and animal plastics myself for when they all get 'grown'... mine are all in a set up pretty much like bhmorril's right now... except i have dowel rods and drift wood instead of pvc, and a cut up wrapping paper tube for the two little girls ;)
personally i think carpets would benefit from the exercise of the climbing space in a cage 18"-24" tall... they sure do use it when they have it!

Hi

yes i think you are both right but what i always whas wondering how can you warm a Plastic cages because with i carpet heating you make the plastic to hot of do isay something stupid now ?

I need about 30 Plastic cages voor Carpet pythons total will i have the Carpetpythons that i want.. I whas thinking about cages of a size 3x2x2 1/2 feet

Gr stijn

Sorry for my boring post :P:P

Ok i'm not quite sure what you were asking, but as long as you have to flexwatt on a thermostat, it won't get hot enough to melt plastic. 90 - 95 degrees is perfectly fine on plastic...

Well, this doesn't showcase the entire boaphile cage, but you can get an idea. This is my Irian Jaya Carpet python female. She loves the perch more than my male. Also, boaphile offers radiant heating panels. The cages I keep my carpet pythons in have radiant heat panels in the ends. However, due to the temperatures in my snake room and perhaps the general lack of insulation, I had to add a foot of flexwatt to the cool side to bring up the temperatures.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...meBoaphile.jpg

If you want an outside picture of the whole cage with everything in it, send me a pm, I'm not on the forums a lot with everything else I have going on right now.

Adult Carpets are great display snakes and are much more enjoyable when they are not in a rack...
I keep my Carpets in Visions...Jon

http://coldbloodedaddiction.com/site...res/2room1.jpg

were could i buy some vison cages if gone to a couple places but i curious were did you get thoses. also do you heat only with flexwatt of do u have a lamp in there

I got most of my Visions from Russ @ RL Reptiles...There are several Vision dealers on the King Snake Calssifieds or you can order direct from Vision...

I heat them with flexwatt...

Jon