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  • 01-17-2007, 09:12 PM
    Shadow
    Should I up his prey size or amount?
    I'm hopeless at knowing the right food size for Karma. I'm feeding med. f/t hoppers right now, they seem to be a quite a mouthful for him but he seems hungry (in stalking/hunting mode) within 4-5 days after eating somtimes. He is about 20" and I still don't have a scale to weigh him with yet.
    Here are a couple pics of him eating a week and a half ago:
    http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...atshop21-1.jpg
    http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...eatshop2-1.jpg The mouse doesn't seem as big in the pics as they seem in real life.
    Here are acouple more so you can get a better idea of his size and girth:
    http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...tz/kthick1.jpg
    http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...tz/Kthick2.jpg
  • 01-17-2007, 09:14 PM
    rmune0750
    Re: Should I up his prey size or amount?
    BIG HEAD!

    haha
  • 01-17-2007, 09:14 PM
    Shelby
    Re: Should I up his prey size or amount?
    Looks to me like you could definitely give him something bigger. As long as he's growing well on it though, it's not a problem if you don't want to go to something bigger.
  • 01-17-2007, 09:45 PM
    kavmon
    Re: Should I up his prey size or amount?
    i think that snake could eat a reg adult mouse. not a large breeder or jumbo adult.



    vaughn
  • 01-17-2007, 09:58 PM
    Shelby
    Re: Should I up his prey size or amount?
    I was thinking the same thing, Vaughn.. it can be hard to tell from pictures though.
  • 01-17-2007, 11:02 PM
    TheDude
    Re: Should I up his prey size or amount?
    looks to me he thinks he should be eating ring fingers! Good lookin snake, I'm new to snakes so I can't really offer any great advice. The Dude is 17" long and eats hoppers, but I give him 1 one week then the next week he gets 2 if he wants. He ate three one night but they were small hoppers, the pet store gave me a free adult mouse once and he put the whole thing in his mouth after like 2 hours of work then just spit it out. Ever since that time he eats verrrrrrry slowlllllyyyyyy..... Lol, kinda like the monkey that ate the cue ball i guess....

    Sorry I like to talk... :D
  • 01-17-2007, 11:11 PM
    Jahbeard
    Re: Should I up his prey size or amount?
    As long as he's not test fitting them :rolleyes:.

    I just moved my three '06 males (all in the 250 gm range) to weaned rats from fuzzies as they eat like hundred year locust. It will be a week ago tomorrow and they would have been out and about by now, even on two fuzzies. I haven't seen a single head poking out. The adults aren't interested right now, but the little ones haven't slowed down.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TheDude
    Lol, kinda like the monkey that ate the cue ball i guess....

    :D

  • 01-18-2007, 01:08 PM
    Shadow
    Re: Should I up his prey size or amount?
    I think what I'll do next time is get a large hopper and if he gets that down nicely maybe one size bigger each time until it looks right. Does that sound like a good idea?
  • 01-18-2007, 02:05 PM
    bigballs
    Re: Should I up his prey size or amount?
    shadow, from what i can see from those pictures i would personally feed your snake adult mice or rat pups. even if you have to get smaller sized rat pups i would still go with them. i have a 150g male albino that is only 2 months old already on rat pups. that is my personal choice but he is taking them like a champ and growing well. it is my opinion that you should up the size of his meals...
  • 01-18-2007, 05:44 PM
    Shadow
    Re: Should I up his prey size or amount?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bigballs
    shadow, from what i can see from those pictures i would personally feed your snake adult mice or rat pups. even if you have to get smaller sized rat pups i would still go with them. i have a 150g male albino that is only 2 months old already on rat pups. that is my personal choice but he is taking them like a champ and growing well. it is my opinion that you should up the size of his meals...

    I was thinking about switching to feeding rats. I got a little scale, it isn't the best and only weighs in increments of ten, but he seems to weigh about 90 grams. So at 20' and 90 grams does rat pups sound right fro him?
  • 01-18-2007, 06:35 PM
    tmlowe5704
    Re: Should I up his prey size or amount?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shadow
    I was thinking about switching to feeding rats. I got a little scale, it isn't the best and only weighs in increments of ten, but he seems to weigh about 90 grams. So at 20' and 90 grams does rat pups sound right fro him?

    My 145 g male is on rat pups and it leaves a little lump, but he is more length than girth
  • 01-19-2007, 04:25 PM
    bigballs
    Re: Should I up his prey size or amount?
    when mine was 90g it was eating small rat pups as well.


    try it out!
  • 01-21-2007, 08:36 PM
    Shadow
    Re: Should I up his prey size or amount?
    Ok, I went to the pet store and asked to look at the size difference from mice hoppers and rat pups. He handed me two bags which were supposed to be one of each. I'd never seen rat pups so I took his word for it. I decided to buy a couple, but now I'm thinking htese aren't rat pups, but pinkies or small fuzzies because they don't seem to have much if any hair. What do you think?
    http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...tz/ratties.jpg
  • 01-21-2007, 08:52 PM
    tmlowe5704
    Re: Should I up his prey size or amount?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shadow
    Ok, I went to the pet store and asked to look at the size difference from mice hoppers and rat pups. He handed me two bags which were supposed to be one of each. I'd never seen rat pups so I took his word for it. I decided to buy a couple, but now I'm thinking htese aren't rat pups, but pinkies or small fuzzies because they don't seem to have much if any hair. What do you think?
    http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...tz/ratties.jpg


    small fuzzies ftw
  • 01-21-2007, 09:00 PM
    rabernet
    Re: Should I up his prey size or amount?
    Rat pups are fully furred and have their eyes and ears opened. They can range in size, depending on if they are 14-15 days old to 4 weeks old.
  • 01-22-2007, 11:34 AM
    Shadow
    Re: Should I up his prey size or amount?
    Ok, I figured they were probably around small fuzzy range after looking on rodent pro. This is the second time I've gotten the wrong size for the pet store, but they are the only store that sells the different sizes. Grrr....

    Anyway, I fed him both of those fuzzies today and even though I don't beileve he has eaten a rat before he took the first one with gusto. He seem a little disoreiented when I gave him the second one. First, he carried it around and dropped it then I wramed it up again and gave it back to him and he seemed to have a hard time figuring out where the head was and tried eating it sideways and then front paws first and then gave up but stayed coiled around it. I tried taking it away from him after waiting awhile, but he didn't let go and then struck it again and ate it too.
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