Do some of you really have Cobra's

Hi,

I'm new to this site, some really nice pics on here. I have no experience with venomous snakes but was just wondering a few things.

1. Do you have to have a special license to keep them. If so what do you do to get one. I know that it is different for each country etc but just wondering who here has licenses etc

2. How do you do general maintenance with these, like feeding, watering and cleaning. Do you take them out of their cages?

3. What housing arrangements would you need for these snakes.

4. And if anyone has any pics of their cobras could you post them please, Id love to see them

Thanks

Dave

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Originally Posted by chili_con_parmi

Hi,

I'm new to this site, some really nice pics on here. I have no experience with venomous snakes but was just wondering a few things.

1. Do you have to have a special license to keep them. If so what do you do to get one. I know that it is different for each country etc but just wondering who here has licenses etc

2. How do you do general maintenance with these, like feeding, watering and cleaning. Do you take them out of their cages?

3. What housing arrangements would you need for these snakes.

4. And if anyone has any pics of their cobras could you post them please, Id love to see them

Thanks

Dave

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you need a specific permit for exotic venomous although some states dont permit them.
2- i hook my adults (monacleds) quite often and have no problems.
3- i have no idea of the brand of mine but you need a specific cage that is heavily locked to prevent escape.

4- ive got a pic of a baby albino monacled laying around... ill edit my post and put it in:)

edit- heres a link to a couple for sale:)

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=38960

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Originally Posted by uro1001

you need a specific permit for exotic venomous although some states dont permit them.
2- i hook my adults (monacleds) quite often and have no problems.
3- i have no idea of the brand of mine but you need a specific cage that is heavily locked to prevent escape.

4- ive got a pic of a baby albino monacled laying around... ill edit my post and put it in:)

edit- heres a link to a couple for sale:)

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=38960

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:blink: Dude, you're advertising hots you have for sale to a person who knows nothing about them? :colbert:

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Originally Posted by Shadowspider

:blink: Dude, you're advertising hots you have for sale to a person who knows nothing about them? :colbert:

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i think your wrong----i think he is just showing him some pictures of his hots!!! he's not trying to sell him any!

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Originally Posted by Shadowspider

:blink: Dude, you're advertising hots you have for sale to a person who knows nothing about them? :colbert:

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that link is strictly for the picture... i would never sell a cobra to someone that isnt experienced.

thanks uro1001 that pic is great

I knew the link was just for the pic, no one with experience would try sell to someone without.
I think the cobras look great but I wouldn't get any, well not yet anyway, maybe after reading more about them and going to vist an experienced keeper for advise for a long time.

Im gonna stick to no venomous snakes for now :)

i dont know some venomous species of snake are very beautifu l but i would never buy one i would be too tempted to take it out all the time and my dumb ass would end up getting bit. they are very beautiful though.

lol yea the reward isn't worth the risk, how long do you have to get to the hospital after a cobra bite anyways?

fast...

You know that's something I've often wondered about when people keep hots. Do you have to keep the specific anti-venom in your home to accompany you to the hospital? I wouldn't think just any regular ER has a wide variety of anti-venoms for the variety of hots available on the market.

We used to live in Michigan. I always thought it incredibly odd that MI has rules up the ying yang with regards to things like wolf-dog crosses but you can buy a gaboon viper off the internet and keep it without any permit needed at all (at least where I lived in northern MI you could).

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Originally Posted by frankykeno

You know that's something I've often wondered about when people keep hots. Do you have to keep the specific anti-venom in your home to accompany you to the hospital? I wouldn't think just any regular ER has a wide variety of anti-venoms for the variety of hots available on the market.

We used to live in Michigan. I always thought it incredibly odd that MI has rules up the ying yang with regards to things like wolf-dog crosses but you can buy a gaboon viper off the internet and keep it without any permit needed at all (at least where I lived in northern MI you could).

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I believe anti venom, is too expensive for people to just stock all the time, it also doesn't have a long shelf life if my memory serves me correct. The hospitals would stock it if it were in a hot snake hot spot. Like texas, FL, CA the hospitals often stock viper antivenom because the chances of someone comming into contact with a hot even in the wild is high on its own.

~mike

Here is a list of ALL the antivenom The Miami Dade Fire Rescue keeps in stock.
http://www.miami-dadefirerescue.com/...php?storyid=13

That's a good stock! They even have Gabby and Bushmaster antivenoms!
Here's the page(same site) for info on who to call if you get bitten.

Heres a few pics from www.venomousreptiles.org photo gallery of snake bites. Read
the captions for more info
Cobra Bites
http://www.venomousreptiles.org/libr...e/452?offset=4
http://www.venomousreptiles.org/libr...1232?offset=35
Viper Bites
http://www.venomousreptiles.org/libr.../554?offset=14
http://www.venomousreptiles.org/libr...2648?offset=54
http://www.venomousreptiles.org/libr...3359?offset=67
http://www.venomousreptiles.org/libr...3563?offset=68
http://www.venomousreptiles.org/libr...4343?offset=77
http://www.venomousreptiles.org/libr...1968?offset=48
Not something to mess around with thats for sure

:eek: :eek: :eek: Those last two are.... ughhh. :puke:

I remember seeing a picture of a bite at a serpentarium where the flesh and muscle on the forearm had totally been eaten away, leaving bone exposed. :eek:

I believe it. Hemotoxins are serious flesh eaters. I think its Dr. Sean Bush that always says, "Time is tissue"

More cobra bite pics!!
http://www.venomsupplies.com/exoticc...uthiabite2.JPG
http://www.venomsupplies.com/exoticc...uthiabite3.JPG
http://www.venomsupplies.com/imagenkaouthiabite1.JPG

I'm glad I finished my lunch before I found those pics. :O

I'm glad I didn't eat lunch today :)

I'm glad I dont eat at all... just walk around with an IV in my backpack... (jk of course):P

That would be awesome!!!

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Originally Posted by PythonWallace

I'm glad I finished my lunch before I found those pics. :O

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I'm having lunch now! No problem. :P Thats some nasty bites.

Those pics were amazing! I mean, I feel sorry for those that were bitten, but... damn.. I'm amazed at the power that's packed behind those snakes venom. Does the venom really eat the skin away like that? or did the doc's have to peel all 3 major layers of skin off to preserve the area around it?

Those pictures are the result of a Cytotoxic (cell destroying) envenomation.
Cobras are generally neurotoxic (Nerve destroying).

I doubt those wounds were from a cobra.
Here is a pic of a Cape Cobra. One of these chaps put me on life support for seven days some time back.
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q.../NajaNivea.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/DSC02100.jpg

Woo wee. Hots are some of the prettiest snakes ever. I just love their scales, all ridge and what not, with crazy horns or eyelashes. Love EM!

There are not mainy cobra species that have a predominate amount of Cyto-toxin in there venom as cobra are generally Nero-toxic (nerve destroying).
Cyto-toxic (cell destroying) is mainly found in vipers and Adders while Nero-toxin is mainly found in cobra (Elapidae).


http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...5-11-11006.jpg

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Originally Posted by wildlifewarrior

I believe anti venom, is too expensive for people to just stock all the time, it also doesn't have a long shelf life if my memory serves me correct. The hospitals would stock it if it were in a hot snake hot spot. Like texas, FL, CA the hospitals often stock viper antivenom because the chances of someone comming into contact with a hot even in the wild is high on its own.

~mike

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that some states do actually require the owners of hots to keep their own supply of anti-venom as part of regulation. I can't remember where I read it, but I'm positive that I did.

It being quite expensive would bethe exact fuel for that, hospitals (well in the Canadian system where they aren't allowed to generate a profit) don't have a lot of 'slush funds' to operate off - sorry if this sounds harsh, but if you can't afford the anti venom on your own knowing you're keeping animals that might cause you to need it... Well, you shouldn't have them then.

Precisely because it is expensive... Were I to own any hots I would insist on keeping my own supply at all times.