Here's one of our 20 foot plus albino granites

Here's one of our big girls. She's over 20 feet and over 225 pounds. She eats 60 pound pigs like many of our giants.

Enjoy! ;)

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David Beauchemin
High End Herps Inc
http://www.HighEndHerps.com/
(318)335-3673

whoa, a little more than i care for

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For those herpers that want the experience of keeping a retic, burm, ceylonese or rock python but dont want to end up with an enormous 200 pound pet, this is the policy for you. This is automatically inclusive in the purchase of any large snake species**. What this boils down to basically is that at any time during your experience with keeping any of our larger species (retic, rock, burmese, etc) if you feel your snake is too large for you to handle safely and or comfortably, you may trade it back in for a smaller snake of equal value*. This enables herpers that would otherwise avoid these graceful giants to enjoy the wonderful experience of keeping them without the burden of ever being "stuck" with a gentle, though potentially huge reptile. We developed this policy with the sole purpose that none of our offspring ever are abandoned, released or end up in shelters or rescues. The well-being of our snakes is our first and foremost priority. Please read the terms and conditions of the lifetime trade-in policy before you purchase a snake under these conditions.

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And may I introduce you to another thread...


http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=39969

Be nice!

Nice snakes!

How many retic enclosures can I fit in a single-wide trailer? :P

edit: sorry, couldn't resist...:D

She looks kind of squished in there...

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Originally Posted by lillyorchid

She looks kind of squished in there...

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Yeah...I was thinking the same thing. Certainly doesn't look comfortable--or like she has much room to move around.

--Kim

Thanks for the compliments and comments guys. Yes, I read all the threads in all the forums pertaining to us. I respect and welcome all opinions be they pro-High End Herps or otherwise.


To the guy with a single wide trailer: You might be surprised at just how many giant snakes you can fit in even the floor space that one average-sized couch takes up. With an 8 by 3 foot floor space and with 5 cages high at a 16 inch height average you can fit 5 large female breeders in the space that an ordinary couch takes up. Males are generally smaller (12 to 14 foot range) and thinner and don't require quite as much space. 4x2 and 5x2.5 cages suffice for them nicely.

David Beauchemin
High End Herps Inc
http://www.HighEndHerps.com/
(318)335-3673

Let's keep some of the negative comments out of this please. If anyone doesn't have anything "constructive" to add regarding the OP, kindly keep it out of this thread. :colbert2:

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Originally Posted by High End Herps Inc

To the guy with a single wide trailer: You might be surprised at just how many giant snakes you can fit in even the floor space that one average-sized couch takes up. With an 8 by 3 foot floor space and with 5 cages high at a 16 inch height average you can fit 5 large female breeders in the space that an ordinary couch takes up. Males are generally smaller (12 to 14 foot range) and thinner and don't require quite as much space. 4x2 and 5x2.5 cages suffice for them nicely.

David Beauchemin
High End Herps Inc
http://www.HighEndHerps.com/
(318)335-3673

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Just poking fun at the other thread....just being silly, thats all :carrot:

And its a good thing I can fit that many giants in that space...I could make room by putting my couch out in the front yard with the rest of my furniture!

very nice! although it does look pretty small for a 20+ female. my alb granie is only 7 ft now but hopefully shell be a big one :)

I guess I don't get around many snakes, she is huge!!!!, my gosh! What a magnificent animal!

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Originally Posted by iceman25

Let's keep some of the negative comments out of this please. If anyone doesn't have anything "constructive" to add regarding the OP, kindly keep it out of this thread. :colbert2:

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Thank you... Let's atleast try to keep this site positive. Whether you disagree or not...

Oh yeah, Big freakin snake man! I'd feel sketchy around that giant!

Umm....is it just me or does this snake look way way over fed ?

It looks way over fed to me also. It looks like it has 5 pigs in it :(

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Originally Posted by High End Herps Inc

Here's one of our big girls. She's over 20 feet and over 225 pounds. She eats 60 pound pigs like many of our giants.

Enjoy! ;)

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...6Batch1008.jpg

David Beauchemin
High End Herps Inc
http://www.HighEndHerps.com/
(318)335-3673

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I believe that its just wrong to cram a huge python like that into such a tiny cage, then post a pic to brag about it. but I guess we all do it a little differently? :(

??? @ ECLARK

I believe that its just wrong to cram a huge python like that into such a tiny cage, then post a pic to brag about it. but I guess we all do it a little differently? :(


Thats what ECLARK posted. It's right beneath the picture.

To be fair, we are not seeing the entire cage, I know my snakes like to squish into small places! :D

If you ask me the cage is not wide enough IMO.

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Originally Posted by snakeLVR

To be fair, we are not seeing the entire cage, I know my snakes like to squish into small places! :D

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Well, That may be a giant burm in a giant cage. But I just see it wrong. thanks for correcting my mistake.

Also that must be one big meal she ate also!

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Originally Posted by Regal Boids

If you ask me the cage is not wide enough IMO.

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maybe there is excellent vertical space. :P

My intention was not to correct anyone, esp the experts, I know I am not one :D Just trying to be be nice. :D

We all appreciate you being nice. :rockon:

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

Be nice!

Nice snakes!

How many retic enclosures can I fit in a single-wide trailer? :P

edit: sorry, couldn't resist...:D

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poor thing... looks like her sides are about to split open. :(

Gorgeuse burm , can you post a pic of her entire cage :)
a mate of mine used to have a 25 year old 20 ft normal burm he raised her form the egg .
she was beast and a soppy as a lamb she weighed in at 19st plus it was huge job on clean out day especially if she just urinates the size of her urates was unbelievable there like footballs (soccer balls to our us friends) :) her poop was...well just massive , she died of septicemia (sp) her owner was gutted when it happened and still misses her to this day :(

I definately want to see a pic of the whole cage.. to me, it looks like the equivelant of keeping a full-grown female BP in a little shoebox that a pair of womens' flats came in. Also, she seems morbidly obese; I don't think it's funny or impressive to fatten a snake up over a healthy weight so you can brag about it.. but that's just me. Maybe it's the angle of the pic that makes her look too fat; maybe the cage is bigger.. not enough info.

Unless that cage is several times the size shown in the picture, that is borderline animal cruelty. I also agree that the snake is morbidly obese. I was disappointed to say the least when I opened this thread.

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Originally Posted by High End Herps Inc

To the guy with a single wide trailer: You might be surprised at just how many giant snakes you can fit in even the floor space that one average-sized couch takes up. With an 8 by 3 foot floor space and with 5 cages high at a 16 inch height average you can fit 5 large female breeders in the space that an ordinary couch takes up.

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I think he answered the cage size in this post he made earlier.

8' x 3' x 16"

I don't understand their emphasis on "fitting" snakes into small cages.. this should not be a priority for a snake keeper. If you can't fit a large enough cage in your house, with room for the snake to breathe and move around, then buy a bigger house or something.

I refuse to own the giants simply because there is not enough room in my house to give them adequate space. How sad!! :(

Wow...a 20' snake in an 8'x3'x16" cage? Thats just plain disgusting. In my own personal opinion, you should not be allowed to own ANY snake if thats your idea of providing the best possible captive environment for the animal. It sickens me to see such magnificent animals kept in such deplorable conditions.

(and before anyone accuses me of being a PETA member or a tree hugging hippy....just re-examine the context of this situation. You'll understand.)

I wish I knew more about the giants once they reach those kinds of lengths... she looks overfed and miserable, but I don't have any pics or info to compare to.

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Originally Posted by Rapture

I wish I knew more about the giants once they reach those kinds of lengths... she looks overfed and miserable, but I don't have any pics or info to compare to.

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I agree..... I would like to hear some feedback from High End Herps Inc.

I wish someone who owns these giants in real life would chip in here. I know that 20+ feet and over 200 pounds are not rare for these snakes, hence I cannot say for sure if that python is obese or not. As far as housing goes, all I know is what I have read in the caresheets: At least half the length of the snake(and that is the minimum), and if you had to choose between height vs width, go with the extra width. Even though my first inclination is to voice my shock at seeing a giant snake stuffed in a box, I'd leave final judgement/assessment in the hands of those who have hands on experience and the reputation to go with it.

I have read the same, at least half the length long. On the other hand I have also heard 1 sq. foot per foot length of snake. So he has the 2nd, but I still say for a snake that girthy that a larger enclosure is in order.

Maybe rex can chime in here. Isn't Homer only like 9 or 10 feet right now in the same size enclosure?

Ben, how about yours? Isn't your lavender albino female in the 17 foot range? What is a weight on yours and what does it eat?

here's something "constructive" for you bud. thats one of the sickest most cruel situations ive ever seen a living animal have to survive in. that snake is grossly obese and is in dier need of a larger cage. i dont care how small of a couch you think you can fit a giant, 20 foot, 200+ pound snake in, that thing can barely move in there.

who here can honestly say that snake doesnt look like it has been over fed, is in in too small of a cage, and is obese to a point that some would consider abuse?

hope i didnt offend you. please :cens0r: :taz: :colbert2: :angered: :disbelief :frustrate

I believe this is a case of "My snake is bigger then yours!" Seriously can't you see that snake is beyond obese? You need to find that snake a better home and reconsider your care for any sort of animal. This is just gross what this animal has become and needs proper care from an owner who wants to keep the animal so it can live in healthy conditions.

Having kept Burmese Pythons before myself, and seeing countless healthy specimens cared for properly, I can assure anyone in doubt that the snake pictured by this thread's author is NOT healthy nor is it being kept anywhere close to properly. The only thing "High" about this person's herps is the level of neglect and abuse that they are being subjected to.

It looks like that pic was taken right after eating the 60 lb pig he talks about. I at one time had 9 burmese pythons, the largest being 18 ft and 175 lbs. It was nowhere near that big around, but she only got fed large rabbits every 14 days. I really never saw a reason to feed them that large of prey. I also don't have burmese pythons anymore and never bred them.

I do not believe for a second that the picture was taken post-meal. Even at the peak of digestion, a snake's stomach is not going to bloat that much. That snake is no doubt going to suffer an uncomfortable demise at the hands of liver, kidney and cardiac failure.

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Originally Posted by Beardo

I do not believe for a second that the picture was taken post-meal. Even at the peak of digestion, a snake's stomach is not going to bloat that much. That snake is no doubt going to suffer an uncomfortable demise at the hands of liver, kidney and cardiac failure.

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You ever seen how big a 60 lb pig is? There is no doubt that pic was taken after a meal. There is also no doubt that snake is completely over weight and in an enclosure too small for its size.

You're right....the pic very well could've been taken post-meal. What I initially intended to imply in my previous post is that I do not believe that the snake is not merely fat from a recent meal. Pre-existing health issues induced by an improper feeding regimen are the cause of the obesity in this particular animal. I apologize for my mis-communication.

Gross!

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You're right....the pic very well could've been taken post-meal. What I initially intended to imply in my previous post is that I do not believe that the snake is not merely fat from a recent meal. Pre-existing health issues induced by an improper feeding regimen are the cause of the obesity in this particular animal. I apologize for my mis-communication.

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On another note, people with large constrictors. Just because your snake can swallow large prey, doesn't mean they should. ;)

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Originally Posted by Wild Bill

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On another note, people with large constrictors. Just because your snake can swallow large prey, doesn't mean they should. ;)

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When I mentioned that this would put more of a financial strain on an owner who could barely afford it(the reason they should get it for cheaper than normal) and that doing this with balls or even boas would be smarter, he replied that to get a 10 lb rabbit for a large boid like this is sometimes cheaper than getting a medium rat. If it only takes a rabbit of that size, or for his sake we will say a 15 lb rabbit since this snake is so big, why feed it a 60 lb pig? Where are you getting 15 lb rabbits from that it is cheaper than a medium rat?

I hate to break it to you, Mr. Beauchemin, but I am no stranger to the proper care of giant boids. You can lay that sheet of garbage elsewhere I'm afraid. The evidence you have presented here amounts to nothing but pure and simple abuse of the animals with whose care and well-being you are entrusted with. It saddens me greatly to see you not only flaunt your negligible husbandry practices publicly, but that you have the audacity to defend them and then imply that those people who see through your veil are ignorant nare-do-wells on a misguided proverbial witch-hunt. Somehow in this situation, you are the benevolent victim? I find this laughable to say the least, and infuriating at most. You have neither my wish of goodwill nor my respect as a fellow human being and herpetoculturist.

FWIW, I can get small rabbits, 1.5-2lbers, for $2-$3 apiece, and they're already frozen and bagged up. But I agree, no snake needs 60lbs of anything to eat... Puts way too much stress on the heart while digesting, and just the amount of fat in that pig will put a great strain on the digestive system.