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  • 12-03-2006, 11:12 AM
    lamar3986
    this may the best substrate for your snake
    yeah everyone this stuff eco earth, which comes in compressed bricks,gurantees at least high humidity but i believe all around this is the cleanest. anyone agree. voice your opinion.
  • 12-03-2006, 11:16 AM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: this may the best substrate for your snake
    Nope. I think paper is the cleanest.

    -adam
  • 12-03-2006, 11:29 AM
    rabernet
    Re: this may the best substrate for your snake
    Agree with Adam. Also, I've never used the EcoEarth, but I imagine it's quite a pain to clean each month.
  • 12-03-2006, 11:30 AM
    Rapture
    Re: this may the best substrate for your snake
    It looks nice, but there's no way you can find all the urine soiled bedding to remove it.
  • 12-03-2006, 12:02 PM
    lillyorchid
    Re: this may the best substrate for your snake
    News paper has to be the cheapest and the easiest to clean.
  • 12-03-2006, 12:15 PM
    JLC
    Re: this may the best substrate for your snake
    I use eco-earth for my gopher, and paper for my bp.....and I totally agree with the others that paper is MUCH easier to keep clean and KNOW it's clean. Eco-earth is nice, though, if you don't mind the extra effort it takes. It makes for a very pretty viv.
  • 12-03-2006, 12:26 PM
    itzazoo
    Re: this may the best substrate for your snake
    I've tried all substates and I would have to say newspaper makes cleaning day so much easier and faster. I could see using it if you just had one snake, but not for alot of us who have many.
  • 12-03-2006, 12:54 PM
    joepythons
    Re: this may the best substrate for your snake
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    Nope. I think paper is the cleanest.

    -adam

    I agree,i have the newspaper delivered everyday so i dont have to spend any extra money for the substrate for my snakes :cool:
  • 12-03-2006, 01:08 PM
    cris78
    Re: this may the best substrate for your snake
    heres a trick for all of us who have multiple snakes that saves time and is very to clean and makes a more natural setting...i use reptibark or cypress..i know its a pain to clean..so i go in w/ a shop vac and suck out all the substrate in seconds then u just dump it out..its easy..and it can suck wet and dry...just my 2 cents ;)
  • 12-03-2006, 02:03 PM
    joyful girl
    Re: this may the best substrate for your snake
    I only use eco earth for my gecko..

    I used to use aspen for my snakes but I got sick of it.
    Now I use paper towels for all the snakes.
  • 12-03-2006, 02:24 PM
    cassandra
    Re: this may the best substrate for your snake
    Before starting new threads on "which substrate do you think is the best", please try searching and reading some older and longer threads about it...=)

    We have quite a few with all opinions and options voiced and discussed.
  • 12-03-2006, 02:55 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: this may the best substrate for your snake
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joepythons
    I agree,i have the newspaper delivered everyday so i dont have to spend any extra money for the substrate for my snakes :cool:

    When I had a smaller collection, I used to do the same ... now I'm going through a couple thousand sheets of paper a week, the paperboy would kill me! ;)

    Besides, albinos, hypos, and pieds look nasty covered in newspaper ink ... So I order unprinted paper pre-cut to fit my boxes ... it's perfect. :D

    -adam
  • 12-03-2006, 02:58 PM
    tmlowe5704
    Re: this may the best substrate for your snake
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    When I had a smaller collection, I used to do the same ... now I'm going through a couple thousand sheets of paper a week, the paperboy would kill me! ;)

    Besides, albinos, hypos, and pieds look nasty covered in newspaper ink ... So I order unprinted paper pre-cut to fit my boxes ... it's perfect. :D

    -adam


    Wysocki recycling plant? Get em from the neighbors and save ever penny you can. Spend it on new blood!
  • 12-03-2006, 03:02 PM
    Vomitore
    Re: this may the best substrate for your snake
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    When I had a smaller collection, I used to do the same ... now I'm going through a couple thousand sheets of paper a week, the paperboy would kill me! ;)

    Besides, albinos, hypos, and pieds look nasty covered in newspaper ink ... So I order unprinted paper pre-cut to fit my boxes ... it's perfect. :D

    -adam

    Could say you have a rare albino ink smear BP. :rolleyes:
  • 12-03-2006, 03:04 PM
    rjks325
    Re: this may the best substrate for your snake
    My personal preference is the indented kraft paper. Price isn't an issue right now with my 1, lone BP. :P
  • 12-03-2006, 03:17 PM
    Razaiel
    Re: this may the best substrate for your snake
    I like newspaper and papertowels on top - my boa and rankins dragon loves burrowing between the sheets of paper towel in preference to using a hide. I get my newspaper free from the estate agents shops as here in the Uk they always have great containers full of their free papers and I swipe a handful :P
  • 12-03-2006, 03:22 PM
    Kizerk
    Re: this may the best substrate for your snake
    i prefer paper towel and newspapers
  • 12-03-2006, 03:29 PM
    sho220
    Re: this may the best substrate for your snake
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    When I had a smaller collection, I used to do the same ... now I'm going through a couple thousand sheets of paper a week, the paperboy would kill me! ;)

    Besides, albinos, hypos, and pieds look nasty covered in newspaper ink ... So I order unprinted paper pre-cut to fit my boxes ... it's perfect. :D

    -adam

    I've never had the ink come off on my snakes, even when it gets wet. Although I imagine you would have to subscribe to nearly every paper in the country to keep up with your needs. :)
  • 12-03-2006, 06:06 PM
    ReptiNut
    Re: this may the best substrate for your snake
    I was told that the brick stuff could cause problems in the vent .... clogs it or something
  • 12-03-2006, 06:13 PM
    SatanicIntention
    Re: this may the best substrate for your snake
    I use Kraft paper for the adlts/subadults and newspaper for the babies.
  • 12-03-2006, 06:31 PM
    WTHbbqSnake
    Re: this may the best substrate for your snake
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Razaiel
    I like newspaper and papertowels on top - my boa and rankins dragon loves burrowing between the sheets of paper towel in preference to using a hide. I get my newspaper free from the estate agents shops as here in the Uk they always have great containers full of their free papers and I swipe a handful :P

    Lol...your animals told you this?
  • 12-03-2006, 06:41 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: this may the best substrate for your snake
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tmlowe5704
    Get em from the neighbors and save ever penny you can. Spend it on new blood!

    I don't think you have a good grasp on how many papers 2,000+ sheets a week is ... where I'm at, there aren't that many neighbors. :P

    Don't worry about me and money, I'm pretty alright financially. ;)

    -adam
  • 12-03-2006, 06:42 PM
    Ginevive
    Re: this may the best substrate for your snake
    Too much urate/fecal matter, in liquid form, drips down into it and remains after spot-cleaning. I only use newspaper b/c there is not any particle of waste matter left over after I clean the tub.
  • 12-03-2006, 06:44 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: this may the best substrate for your snake
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ginevive
    Too much urate/fecal matter, in liquid form, drips down into it and remains after spot-cleaning. I only use newspaper b/c there is not any particle of waste matter left over after I clean the tub.

    Perfect! :love:

    -adam
  • 12-03-2006, 06:45 PM
    Ginevive
    Re: this may the best substrate for your snake
    But I must say, if I had the option, I would much rather use printless paper like Adam mentioned; I hate the ink stains that I have to scrub off the bottom of the tubs.
  • 12-03-2006, 06:46 PM
    Ginevive
    Re: this may the best substrate for your snake
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    Perfect! :love:

    -adam

    You betcha! It is pretty gross, how in a 41-quart tub, the urine juice can stretch from one end of the tub to the other! I never knew there was so much liquid to their pee; it's not the fecal matter I am talking about, but the yellow yookee-ness.
  • 12-03-2006, 07:14 PM
    Aric
    Re: this may the best substrate for your snake
    Personally I find the coco fiber (which is what eco earth is) to be completely junk, I know quite a few years ago gardeners used the exact same stuff for getting plants to grow. I got some to try out on either a snake or a lizard and mixing that stuff is a pain and it gets stuck on everything. I personally wouldnt want any of that stuff in my snakes heat pits, nose, mouth, etc....

    Thats why NEWSPAPER ROCKS!!!!!!!:rockon:
  • 12-03-2006, 10:30 PM
    joepythons
    Re: this may the best substrate for your snake
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cris78
    heres a trick for all of us who have multiple snakes that saves time and is very to clean and makes a more natural setting...i use reptibark or cypress..i know its a pain to clean..so i go in w/ a shop vac and suck out all the substrate in seconds then u just dump it out..its easy..and it can suck wet and dry...just my 2 cents ;)

    I would not use that reptibark in any reptile enclosures as i know several people whom have lost a reptile(snakes and lizards) when they accidently swallowed some of it.If everyone remembers a short time back i posted about a female crested gecko i had that died with a peice of that reptibark stuff in her mouth.The person i got her from used that stuff and it was a small peice that lodged in her throat:( .
  • 12-04-2006, 04:46 AM
    Razaiel
    Re: this may the best substrate for your snake
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WTHbbqSnake
    Lol...your animals told you this?

    They talk to me all the time ;) No, it's just that they have some nice hides but they actually spend a lot of time (boa anyway) in the folds of the paper towel.
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