cinnies..

What do they produce when bred to a Pastel?

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Originally Posted by Ginevive

What do they produce when bred to a Pastel?

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Pewters
Cinnies
Pastels

I think I got that right but genetics isn't my strong suit... :)

Jamie got it right, with the exception of also producing some normals in that mix.

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Originally Posted by muddoc

Jamie got it right, with the exception of also producing some normals in that mix.

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Thanks Tim! I forgot about the normals... :)

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Originally Posted by jglass38

Thanks Tim! I forgot about the normals... :)

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probably cause you aren't! :P

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Originally Posted by recycling goddess

probably cause you aren't! :P

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Don't go telling everyone that! :D

umm... which people here don't already know this and i'll try to keep it from them LOL

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Then breed the pewter back to the pastel and get a silver streak. Amazing looking snake!!!!!!!!!!! Gonna try to make one in the next coule of years. :P

I thought the silver streak was a super cinnamon pastel?????

You would have to breed the pewter back to the cinny.

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Originally Posted by MPenn

I thought the silver streak was a super cinnamon pastel?????

You would have to breed the pewter back to the cinny.

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super cinny is a dark brown snake.

silver streak can be had by breeding a pastel or super pastel to a black pastel.

genetics of the cinny and black pastels can be confusing.

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Originally Posted by ECLARK

super cinny is a dark brown snake.

silver streak can be had by breeding a pastel or super pastel to a black pastel.

genetics of the cinny and black pastels can be confusing.

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Maybe I should have wrote it differently. Such as pastel super cinnamon.

wouldn't pastel or super pastel x black/cinny pastel = pewter?


then, pewter x black/cinny pastel = silver/bullet/streak!!



vaughn

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Originally Posted by kavmon

wouldn't pastel or super pastel x black/cinny pastel = pewter?


then, pewter x black/cinny pastel = silver/bullet/streak!!



vaughn

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Yes!

With all the other snakes that come out of that as well....

Pewters, Pastels, Cinnys/Black Pastels, normals....

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Originally Posted by kavmon

wouldn't pastel or super pastel x black/cinny pastel = pewter?


then, pewter x black/cinny pastel = silver/bullet/streak!!



vaughn

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This is the main focus of these breedings, and other morphs will also come out of these breedings.

Super Pastel X Black Pastel= Silver Streak
Pewter X Cinnamon Pastel= Silver Bullet

So, I would def. get a pewter if I bred pastel x cinny?

The one thing that's always confused me is the difference between the Cinnamon Pastels and the Black Pastels. They look very similar yet some can be quite a lot brighter/oranger/blacker/more contrast than the others. Are they truly distinct morphs or just the same morph with the usual unique differences all snakes have. What happens if you breed a Cinnamon Pastel and a Black Pastel?

Is the pewter form, the super? Or will you definately get a pewter from breeding pastelxcinny? Or is just a possibility to get one from this breeding?

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Originally Posted by frankykeno

The one thing that's always confused me is the difference between the Cinnamon Pastels and the Black Pastels. They look very similar yet some can be quite a lot brighter/oranger/blacker/more contrast than the others. Are they truly distinct morphs or just the same morph with the usual unique differences all snakes have. What happens if you breed a Cinnamon Pastel and a Black Pastel?

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I think this is more of a lineage difference?

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Originally Posted by ECLARK

This is the main focus of these breedings, and other morphs will also come out of these breedings.

Super Pastel X Black Pastel= Silver Streak
Pewter X Cinnamon Pastel= Silver Bullet

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Ed,

There is no way to get a Silver Streak from breeding a Super Pastel to a Black Pastel. If that were your breeding, you would get Pewters and Pastels.
To get a Silver Streak, you would have to be breeding a Pewter to a Pastel or a Pewter to a Super, or a Pewter to a Pewter.

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Originally Posted by Ginevive

Is the pewter form, the super? Or will you definately get a pewter from breeding pastelxcinny? Or is just a possibility to get one from this breeding?

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Pastel x Cinny will give you a chance at getting pewters...but there's no guarantees.

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Originally Posted by JLC

Pastel x Cinny will give you a chance at getting pewters...but there's no guarantees.

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The odds should be pretty good because they are both co-doms, but yes, nothing is guaranteed. I understand black pastel and cinnies are compatable but different lines. I personally prefer the cinnies, more orangey color :D

Here is a cinnie, anyone got a pic of a black pastel for comparison?
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...FlamingHot.JPG

Black Pastel:

http://www.nextworldexotics.com/images/blpas1a.jpg

Jon at nextworldexotics ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!! I've purchased alot of snakes from him, he is always helpful and full of knowledge. Even gives me advice on purchases from other breeders LOL. His hunter's guide rules!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks Rapture for sharing that link.

black pastel pic,


https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../6/9/blkf2.JPG


vaughn

Here is a comparison shot of two of mine: Cinnamon on the left and black pastel (Ian G's line) on the right. Keep your fingers crossed that these two will go this year.

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...Cini-Fonzi.JPG

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Originally Posted by kavmon

black pastel pic

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Is that THE black pastel??? whoa :eek: :clap::eek:

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Originally Posted by kavmon

black pastel pic,


https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../6/9/blkf2.JPG


vaughn

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Oh lordy Vaughn but that's one gorgeous snake! I have to show this pic to Mike. He's nuts about the Black Pastels and they are definitely very high on his "Must Have" list. Yours just pops!

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Originally Posted by Alice

Here is a comparison shot of two of mine: Cinnamon on the left and black pastel (Ian G's line) on the right. Keep your fingers crossed that these two will go this year.

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...Cini-Fonzi.JPG

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Thanks; I was really confused on the dif. btwn those two.. but your pic has cleared that up for me!

I love what the cinnys and black pastels can do.Those are some great looking cinnys and black pastels.
I also prefer the BHB cinnys as I think they just have a more orangy look and tons of blushing.
Here is one I just picked up and can't wait till he sheds out.
Sory about the poor pics as he was going into a shed.
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...CinnyMale2.JPG
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...CinnyMale1.JPG

Nice to see you here Kelvin :) And I love that cinny, Justin produced some real lookers this year! I almost bought that one, its one of the nicest cinnies produced in Canada IMO

Hey Chris how are you.I just found this site a few days ago and love it :)
Thank you for the nice comment and I would have to agrea that Justin produced some of the best cinnys I have ever seen.
He is also one of the best guy's you will meet in this hobby and can see him going far.
We have become good friends and I look forward to mannnyyyyyy more dealing's with him as he is just a great guy to shoot the poop with lol.

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Originally Posted by PastelDreamMorphs

I just found this site a few days ago and love it :)

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This site certainly does rock , never a dull moment LOL :D

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Originally Posted by PastelDreamMorphs

I would have to agrea that Justin produced some of the best cinnys I have ever seen. He is also one of the best guy's you will meet in this hobby and can see him going far.

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Seems to have a good head on his shoulders from what I know of him.. And while I havent had the pleasure of doing business with him, that will certainly change if he continues to pop out primo animals like he did this year ;):sweeet:

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Originally Posted by PastelDreamMorphs

I love what the cinnys and black pastels can do.Those are some great looking cinnys and black pastels.
I also prefer the BHB cinnys as I think they just have a more orangy look and tons of blushing.
Here is one I just picked up and can't wait till he sheds out.
Sory about the poor pics as he was going into a shed.
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...CinnyMale2.JPG
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...CinnyMale1.JPG

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Gotta love the floating patterns

yeah like jo said it's the black pastel for me hands down,don't get my wrong I like cinnies but to me the blacks are just so much more vibrant.

I am liking the cinnamons more and more, every time I see one..
That's such a cute, tiny little albino in yer avatar, PastelDreams!

Jen thank you for the nice comment on the albino :) That was the only albino I hatched this year out of 10 eggs :( and is doing great at a friends house lol.
I hated to see him go but I promissed him a male last year so he is now the proud owner of the little albino lol :)