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  • 11-30-2006, 02:02 PM
    pythongrl
    anyone have a childrens python?
    what are they like????

    temperment?etc...

    Thanks
  • 11-30-2006, 03:26 PM
    Entropy
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Joe has two I believe.

    I don't own any but the ones I've known have been a bit nippy and flighty at first but did settle down. They're cute little boogers.
  • 11-30-2006, 05:22 PM
    steveo
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    There great snakes to own, my calmest one is the male...he has never bitten or stuck at me once in the 4 years ive had him , i bred him myself and he was the first to hatch so i kept him , the female is a little flighty but only when shes in her cage...once shes out being handled shes a doll.
    also there greedy little buggers ive never had a feeding or shedding problem with them :)
    p.s sharon my female childrens in the one in my avatar
  • 11-30-2006, 05:24 PM
    Vomitore
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by steveo
    There great snakes to own, my calmest one is the male...he has never bitten or stuck at me once in the 4 years ive had him , i bred him myself and he was the first to hatch so i kept him , the female is a little flighty but only when shes in her cage...once shes out being handled shes a doll.
    also there greedy little buggers ive never had a feeding or shedding problem with them :)
    p.s sharon my female childrens in the one in my avatar

    Yeah my CP is one hell of an eater! He's the most aggressive eater I've ever had.
  • 11-30-2006, 05:24 PM
    pythongrl
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    im getting a breeding adult pair in a trade
  • 11-30-2006, 05:25 PM
    TekWarren
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    I have a little guy about a year old...he/she is the most awesome mannered animal for its size.
  • 11-30-2006, 05:52 PM
    pythongrl
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    well the breeder says they have been cooled and are ready to breed...do I put them in the same tub?...he said I can put them right in the rack i use for my BPs...can u give mee all the info I need...pleezzz..

    thanks
  • 11-30-2006, 06:33 PM
    uro1001
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    i have 12 childrens pythons 11 of them being adults. all of them being aggressive. all but 3 are from the same parents so maybe its the bloodline.:)
  • 11-30-2006, 07:21 PM
    cris78
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    it me Python grl..i went to my username i use on all boards..

    wow mixed reviews on the childrens.hmm
  • 11-30-2006, 08:57 PM
    SPJ
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pythongrl
    well the breeder says they have been cooled and are ready to breed...do I put them in the same tub?...he said I can put them right in the rack i use for my BPs...can u give mee all the info I need...pleezzz..
    thanks

    That all depends upon what temps you keep your BP's at. Children's pythons prefer coolor temps than BP's.
    Do you know if these are pure Children's or crosses?
    Most are extremely docile as adults (I say most because there are some that are just snappy no matter what) but almost all hatchlings are snappy. They are very curious and active snakes and I have found prefer to have something to climb on and will sit coiled on a branch similiar to a carpet.
    Once established, they are great eaters although males will tend to go off feed and go cruising around the cage a lot when it is time to breed.
    All in all, they are great little snakes.

    Here is a pic of one of my most kid friendly snakes.
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...renspython.jpg

    This is what I mean by them hanging out like carpets.
    Children's python
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...s/aa61d95c.jpg
    Carpet python
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...s/55077c84.jpg
  • 11-30-2006, 09:05 PM
    cris78
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
  • 11-30-2006, 09:12 PM
    SPJ
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    WAAAY to much pattern on that bottom one for it to be pure IMO. Even the one on top has a very defined pattern.
    They also seem a bit on the small size (which might explain the pattern on the top one). I wouldn't attempt to breed them.

    The second Children's pic I posted was of a sub adult. Not yet breeding size. You can see it has more pattern that the adult breeder in the first picture.

    Who is the person that has these?
  • 11-30-2006, 09:17 PM
    cris78
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    he said they are Australian dwarf pythons..what are they then? i already traded..and i shipped first
  • 11-30-2006, 09:18 PM
    cris78
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    he said they are 2 and 1/2 feet or better
  • 11-30-2006, 09:20 PM
    SPJ
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Australian Dwarf Python is TOO vague.

    Tell him you want the EXACT name of these.
    Are they stimsons, childrens, spotteds, etc.
  • 11-30-2006, 09:21 PM
    TekWarren
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    nice photos! I think I would like to try breeding Children's in the future...when I have more room :P
  • 11-30-2006, 09:27 PM
    SPJ
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TekWarren
    nice photos! I think I would like to try breeding Children's in the future...when I have more room :P

    Babies don't take up much room at all.:D
    That's one from last year on my finger.
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...rmalfemale.jpg
  • 11-30-2006, 09:34 PM
    SPJ
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Ask if these are anthill pythons.


    Judging by size (them being ready to breed), pattern, and the fact that he called them Australian dwarf pythons, I tend to think that is what they are and not childrens pythons.
  • 11-30-2006, 09:36 PM
    cris78
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    i asked if they were childrens and he said yes
  • 11-30-2006, 09:39 PM
    SPJ
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    I really do not buy it. There is no way that bottom one can be a pure childrens python. And ready to breed at 2 1/2 feet?
  • 11-30-2006, 09:39 PM
    joepythons
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pythongrl
    what are they like????

    temperment?etc...

    Thanks

    Well i have only one left out of the original three.They were giving to me right out of the egg and the 2 i lost refused to eat.Now the one i have is a VERY sweet little girl(i hope).I would compare them to corn snakes as far as the attitudes.Now Steve (spj) has some but since he is mean he gets bit alot :8: :8: .I would recommend them to anyone :D
  • 11-30-2006, 09:44 PM
    joepythons
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SPJ
    WAAAY to much pattern on that bottom one for it to be pure IMO. Even the one on top has a very defined pattern.
    They also seem a bit on the small size (which might explain the pattern on the top one). I wouldn't attempt to breed them.

    The second Children's pic I posted was of a sub adult. Not yet breeding size. You can see it has more pattern that the adult breeder in the first picture.

    Who is the person that has these?

    I agree with Steve.I am not saying that the sellar is trying to rip you off.I have found alot of people cross the Childrens pythons with the spotted pythons.Just plain UGLY in my opinion(the crosses)
  • 11-30-2006, 09:47 PM
    SPJ
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joepythons
    Well i have only one left out of the original three.They were giving to me right out of the egg and the 2 i lost refused to eat.Now the one i have is a VERY sweet little girl(i hope).I would compare them to corn snakes as far as the attitudes.Now Steve (spj) has some but since he is mean he gets bit alot :8: :8: .I would recommend them to anyone :D

    Keep it up wise guy.:colbert: I am going to send you a really "sweet natured" baby this Spring. As a matter of fact, I will find the "sweetest" one and send it to you for free since I am such a nice person and feel bad that you lost some of yours.:D I guarentee it will bite, um, eat everything in sight for you.
  • 11-30-2006, 09:47 PM
    joepythons
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Here is my Childrens Python baby. http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...thon112006.jpg
  • 11-30-2006, 09:48 PM
    joepythons
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SPJ
    Keep it up wise guy.:colbert: I am going to send you a really "sweet natured" baby this Spring. As a matter of fact, I will find the "sweetest" one and send it to you for free since I am such a nice person and feel bad that you lost some of yours.:D I guarentee it will bite, um, eat everything in sight for you.

    AWWWWWWWWWWW poor Steve lol.I bet i will not get a hiss out of him/her lol:rockon:. I want a red female then.:carrot:
  • 11-30-2006, 09:49 PM
    cris78
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    great..i told him i had no experience w/ them..im a sucka..he got a hell of deal
  • 11-30-2006, 09:50 PM
    SPJ
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Whoa! That's actually a good picture. :bow:Who really took it?:D
  • 11-30-2006, 09:51 PM
    SPJ
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joepythons
    AWWWWWWWWWWW poor Steve lol.I bet i will not get a hiss out of him/her lol:rockon:. I want a red female then.:carrot:

    Red it is. They tend to be extra sweet.:D
    It will be one just as nice as this sweety was.
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ns/redmale.jpg
  • 11-30-2006, 09:52 PM
    joepythons
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cris78
    great..i told him i had no experience w/ them..im a sucka..he got a hell of deal

    Nope if he misreprensated them and they are not Childrens pythons you can refuse the deal and get your snakes back.Of course you would pay to ship his back to him and him yours.
  • 11-30-2006, 09:52 PM
    SPJ
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cris78
    great..i told him i had no experience w/ them..im a sucka..he got a hell of deal

    Maybe they are old pics or just really bad pics. Try to get him to send you some new ones.
  • 11-30-2006, 09:53 PM
    joepythons
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SPJ
    Whoa! That's actually a good picture. :bow:Who really took it?:D

    Steve you have a not so nice pm coming lol.NEW CAMERA :D
  • 11-30-2006, 09:54 PM
    SPJ
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    What's that honey? Log off? OK dear.




    Sorry, gotta go, can't read a PM right now.:D
  • 11-30-2006, 09:55 PM
    cris78
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    i asked him to e-mail me more pics
  • 11-30-2006, 09:55 PM
    SPJ
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cris78
    i asked him to e-mail me more pics

    Post em when you get em.:D
  • 11-30-2006, 09:57 PM
    joepythons
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SPJ
    What's that honey? Log off? OK dear.




    Sorry, gotta go, can't read a PM right now.:D

    Yea you better do what Momma says or she will kick you to the curb :8: :8: :8:
  • 11-30-2006, 10:51 PM
    uro1001
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cris78

    the one with the head closest is definetly pure chilrens. one of my female adult childrens hasnt eaton in 5 months and doesnt look as skinny. the other one looks to be a stimson/spotted this definetly doesnt look to be a reputable seller
  • 11-30-2006, 11:55 PM
    SilentTigress
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    I may be jumping in a bit late..But I have two Children's..my female is great, no attitude at all. My male...well...he's guaranteed to bite 2-3 times per handling at the very least. He's nasty. (So nasty I've thought of finding a new home for him, but I want it to be a good home with someone that can handle him and his attitude in the right way..)
  • 12-01-2006, 09:17 AM
    joepythons
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SilentTigress
    I may be jumping in a bit late..But I have two Children's..my female is great, no attitude at all. My male...well...he's guaranteed to bite 2-3 times per handling at the very least. He's nasty. (So nasty I've thought of finding a new home for him, but I want it to be a good home with someone that can handle him and his attitude in the right way..)

    Never to late to add to a thread :) .How many times a week do you handle your biting male childrens a week? I have a corn snake male that WAS a biter when i first got him but after some TLC and numerous handling sessions he is one cool cucumber now :cool: .
  • 12-01-2006, 10:45 AM
    cris78
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by uro1001
    the one with the head closest is definetly pure chilrens. one of my female adult childrens hasnt eaton in 5 months and doesnt look as skinny. the other one looks to be a stimson/spotted this definetly doesnt look to be a reputable seller

    thanx..im trying to resolve this w/ the seller...they are mixed Ive now learned
  • 12-01-2006, 11:21 AM
    cris78
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    it has been resolved..i wont be getting this pair...thanks everyone for all u're help
  • 12-01-2006, 11:27 AM
    SiscoReptiles
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Hello people,

    It is I who made this trade. Both snakes are being called Australian Dwarf Pythons. They are both hybrids in the sense that prior to 1991 these two snakes were the same species. Most all Children's & Spotted pythons that have been CB in the pet trade since before 1991, or those CB from those lines, are hybrids to some point because back then they were not seperate species. To this day these are still called Children's Pythons (even the hybrids) in the pet trade. I was not being dishonest or misleading, which is why I traded them as "Australian Dwarf Pythons", because honostly I can't tell you what percentage of which they are.

    Cristine asked if they were also called Children's and I simply responded "Yes" assuming she was just looking for a proper caresheet. If she had asked for the exact latin name my answer would have obviously been different.

    Cristine & I will resolve this in a way that both of us can walk away from this misunderstanding, hopefully with no hard feelings.

    Sincerely,

    Rick Sisco
  • 12-01-2006, 11:35 AM
    SiscoReptiles
    Re: anyone have a children's python?
    *Edit:

    1: I offered to honor our prior arrangement
    2: I offered to return her $50 and make a payment into her PayPal account
    3: I offered to return her two het ghost, at my cost & return her $50 via PayPal

    We have come to an agreement and this arrangement is settled. I will keep the two Het Ghosts and the Australian Dwarf Pythons. I will return her $50 and make a cash payment into her PayPal account.

    I am pleased to have resolved this amicably. Thank you Cristine.

    Rick Sisco
    SiscoReptiles.com
  • 12-01-2006, 11:36 AM
    JLC
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Thanks for clearing that up, Rick! :gj:
  • 12-01-2006, 11:55 AM
    SiscoReptiles
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Thanks Judy,

    I just wish I happened to have noticed this post originally because we could have skirted the whole issue before any shipment was made, but generally I just browse the BPS forums when I am in a hurry or have other things going on.

    Anyways, all is well that ends well. Right?

    Rick
  • 12-01-2006, 04:27 PM
    SilentTigress
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joepythons
    Never to late to add to a thread :) .How many times a week do you handle your biting male childrens a week? I have a corn snake male that WAS a biter when i first got him but after some TLC and numerous handling sessions he is one cool cucumber now :cool: .

    I handle him about twice a week..I'll try to do it more once my finals are done and over with...So you think I'll be able to cool down the angry beast? lol
  • 12-01-2006, 05:29 PM
    joepythons
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SilentTigress
    I handle him about twice a week..I'll try to do it more once my finals are done and over with...So you think I'll be able to cool down the angry beast? lol

    Its possible to tame that monster down.Unless you live close to Steve(SPJ) and he comes over to see your snake :rofl: :rofl: :twisted:
  • 12-01-2006, 05:30 PM
    uro1001
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SiscoReptiles
    Hello people,

    It is I who made this trade. Both snakes are being called Australian Dwarf Pythons. They are both hybrids in the sense that prior to 1991 these two snakes were the same species. Most all Children's & Spotted pythons that have been CB in the pet trade since before 1991, or those CB from those lines, are hybrids to some point because back then they were not seperate species. To this day these are still called Children's Pythons (even the hybrids) in the pet trade. I was not being dishonest or misleading, which is why I traded them as "Australian Dwarf Pythons", because honostly I can't tell you what percentage of which they are.

    Cristine asked if they were also called Children's and I simply responded "Yes" assuming she was just looking for a proper caresheet. If she had asked for the exact latin name my answer would have obviously been different.

    Cristine & I will resolve this in a way that both of us can walk away from this misunderstanding, hopefully with no hard feelings.

    Sincerely,

    Rick Sisco

    it is not 1991 . there is no doubt in my mind that these are cb as i know australias exporting rules. i have beenbreeding childrens pythons for over 5 years so dont act like you dont realize these are 2 different species. antaresia childreni and stimsoni/maculosa. if you continue to breed i recommend learning the current common and scientific names for all species you sell :)
  • 12-01-2006, 06:58 PM
    SiscoReptiles
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Uro,


    The issue has been resolved. Your post is reduntant.

    Rick
  • 12-01-2006, 07:43 PM
    SPJ
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    It's not reduntant. Why are you misrepresenting the animals? They are crosses and should be labeled as crosses. Do not try to sell them as something they are not.

    Not only that but they are not breeding size, and one looks very thin.
    IMO, you misrepresented these animals and should own up to it.
  • 12-01-2006, 10:11 PM
    uro1001
    Re: anyone have a childrens python?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SiscoReptiles
    Uro,


    The issue has been resolved. Your post is reduntant.

    Rick

    lol does this mean every python species in africa under 10 foot is considered an african dwarf? maybe i should labe a ball python as an african dwarf or maybe i could label an angolian as an african dwarf or is that considered false advertising? dont ask me because im not the one that classifies every antaresia species as "australian dwarfs". also spotted pythons can grow a good 2 feet more than a childrens python so dont label them as the "same" species


    ps:cris78 this pair(clearly not ready to breed) can breed (when ready) and produce hybrids but it is much more ethical to buy pure childrens and breed them.
    :)
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