What's wrong with this pic?

Just brought this guy home and noticed the problem over the weekend. I'm wondering how many people would overlook this (or have no idea what this is)?? I'm posting it as a test your knowledge for all the fledgeling BP owners. Ironically, I've never had this happen with anyone in my collection and I go and buy one that has it.

C'mon. Step up to the plate. All you veterans lay off and let the younger guys (educationally speaking) have a go.

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...nedeyecaps.JPG

Maybe you're looking at the extra skin on his eye? I hear that it's pretty normal and nothing dangerous. I guess it goes away with the next shed. I had one boy that this happened to and has since resolved.

Maybe someone knows what causes it?

Your rack came without a bin?

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Originally Posted by Sadie

Maybe you're looking at the extra skin on his eye? I hear that it's pretty normal and nothing dangerous. I guess it goes away with the next shed. I had one boy that this happened to and has since resolved.

Maybe someone knows what causes it?

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That's what I was gonna say.

I'm by no means a vet but it looks like the tissue surrounding the eye has...for what ever reason buldged out alittle bit. Might be due to infection, or trama, But it doesn't look like a retained eye cap they are mostly clear and make the eye look like its got a little plastic wrap over it.

Hmm... if I had to make a guess I would mention the drop of something hanging from his chin (drool). Drool being a early sign of an Respitory Infection(RI).

EDIT: Nevermind :oops: I see more drops of water on his body.

Okay this is just great! Not only has Zeke not eaten for 3 weeks, he has the same thing on one of his eyes. Thought it was from a shed and would come off! What the hell is it and what do I do?

Sounds like two vet visits are in order.

I'm thinking it's the skin around the eye. Never have seen this condition. What' the dilly?

I don't know the answer to this question, but I had it on one of my snakes only on the back half of the eye, sent a picture to Adam, waited until after the next shed cycle and all was well after that.

we just recently discussed the eye situation and the thread deemed the situation 'nothing'

i saw the drop of water and the other water drops.

i think janeofthejungle is just making a thread for the fun of it and there's nothing wrong with the snake :P

i se nothing wrong with the snake. that would be like taking a picture of your eye when your looking way to the side and going, "uh oh! whats that! that tissue looks really red! im going to the doctor!" lol.

Alright, alright, I'm getting an awful lot of smack for what was intended to be helpful info in the long run. The issue is, in fact, a retained eyecap. Noted by the fold of skin (which was part of the periocular cavity pre-shed). There seems to be a lot of misinformation floating around about eye issues so I was hoping to expose the issue to some of the people who might never have seen this. My intentions were good.

In reality, this is not a big deal or a major medical crisis (as a few who emailed me seemed to think) and it will, indeed, shed off with the next shed (provided there is ample humidity). And although this is fairly common, I personally like to know what's going on with my kids at all times so it is something I pay attention to and take steps to resolve. When I first started out I realized how little reliable info there was for seemingly 'little' things like this, so my intention here was to offer a first hand look to other newer herpers who weren't sure what the eyecap issue was all about. Here are some excellent resources.....

http://www.animalnetwork.com/reptile...d=3691&search=

www.ballpython.com/page.php?topic=ballfaq

I would appreciate any useful contributions to the info above. I've tried to explain it without getting too embroiled in the prevailing myth. :eek:

And for those wondering 'why did she list filarial worms?' My only excuse is that I thought they were interesting buggers when we studied them in parasitology. We won't even mention how many people voted for them....

Cheers,
Kat

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Originally Posted by janeothejungle

And for those wondering 'why did she list filarial worms?' My only excuse is that I thought they were interesting buggers when we studied them in parasitology. We won't even mention how many people voted for them....

Cheers,
Kat

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Did you have this poll somewhere else? I only see one person voted for them.

I did find it helpful though!

Thanks Kat for posting, I didn't know that retained eyecaps could look like that. Maybe it's different for the morphs with light eyes than the normals. My experience was with a pastel.

I didn't reply because I cheated when you first posted the picture. If you right click on the picture and check the properties you will see..

noahretainedeyecaps.jpg

I was going to comment on the 'abscess' on it's back, but after enlarging the picture I realized it was a drop of water and that the scales on the 'abscess' were just the reflection/refraction of the scales under the drop of water.

Rick

My adult female Breth, has that around her right eye. It's not a retained eyecape as she's shed more than a few times since I've acquired her and all have been complete sheds(hence, no way for retained eyecaps). She's been looked at by a vet and has been deemed healthy, but it just looks like the skin around her eye is receding(not getting worse). I've read that it may have been caused by trauma from mite infestations that weren't treated promptly(I've only had her for 4-5 months, so don't know what her care was like before).

But who knows, he's a pretty boy regardless.

There are a suprisingly lot of things concerning the eyes that look very similar. I've also seen snakes where the skin from the periocular cavity grew and protruded slightly outward toward the eye. In the case of Noah the pin, it was fairly easy diagnosis since the other eye (not shown in the pic) also showed the slight crease that can occur when the old eyecap starts to dry. It came off easily with a light soak and a damp Qtip.

One of the big misconceptions is that the eye will appear opaque and you won't be able to see the pupil if its a retained eyecap. In some cases, this is true, but it is also possible for the eye to appear slightly wrinkled, or have a faint crease at the edge. In some cases you cannot see the pupil, in others you can. As a disclaimer : DO NOT, under any circumstances, attempt to remove an old eyecap unless you are 100% positive it is a retained eyecap. When in doubt, consult a knowledgeable vet.

PS You are absolutely right, only one person voted for the worms, I looked at the bar instead of the number.(sheepish grin)

Cheers,
Kat

I voted for Corneal Infection :tp: