Pine snake pics

Not sure what type of pine snake it is, anyone have any idea?

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I'd guess Northern Pinesnake. Very handsome!!

Thanks. I know one thing, it can out hiss any snake I've ran across. I've never heard one so loud and deep in my life.

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Originally Posted by piranhaking

Thanks. I know one thing, it can out hiss any snake I've ran across. I've never heard one so loud and deep in my life.

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I'll bet! The larger Pituophis snakes can be very intimidating! They're awesome! :P

Intimidating to say the least. To a few people that were in the room when it hissed at me down right scary :P It took a while working around that guy before i would handle him. I actually got up the nerve to hold the 7 foot redtails before that guy (they were nice, but he tends to hiss and squirm a little until he's out of the cage and i dont like getting bit :P)

Pine and gopher snakes are good for hissing. They also will rattle their tails in substrate or against the side of an enclosure and sound like a rattlesnake. My son's Sonoran gopher used to do this all of the time, along with striking with a closed mouth. He has tamed down considerably with age and once per week handling.

Do you use a hook to take him out or do it by hand?

By the way, he is gorgeous!

Beautiful! I love the cute "So There!" looks on their faces! A pit is on my list too, though probably a gopher. Gotta love a nice big colubrid! :)

I've not dealt with many Gophers but Bull and Pines I find all the time (bulls now pines in the past).

My experience even with adult wild ones is once you pick them up and are gentle they generaly don't bite, there is always the exception! And then can give a good one but their bark (hiss) is always worse then their bite.

Pits have a membrane that allows them to give what might be the loudest hiss of any snake anywhere. Babies are CUTE though when they do it sounds almost like a quiet sneeze.

Lots of time with babies you try to pick the up, they hiss, strike, tail rattle etc. They are just little bad a$$ dudes at leat they think they are :oops: then you pick them up and they are like, ok cool and all chill, put them down and it all starts again.

Great snakes, excellent as adults for kids programs and stuff like that.

That"s just how this one is. It acts all big and bad, but once its out of the cage its no trouble at all. Funny that you mention they are good for snake programs, because this one is actually going to one of our zoology classes tomorrow as part of a show:snake:

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Pine and gopher snakes are good for hissing. They also will rattle their tails in substrate or against the side of an enclosure and sound like a rattlesnake.

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Those are the main reasons why I love gopher snakes :love:

My little guy has finally stopped rattling every time I walk by, but he still does it a lot. He is a sweetheart outside of his cage.

If i had some means of recording the sound, I'd host it somewhere.

You know one of the great uses for them as "show snakes" is if they will hiss and all and be all "mean" and you can then pick them up and show the kiddos how they calm down. Only problem is they just tend to stop the whole show pretty soon with regular handling.

Carl Kauffeld author of the Classic Keeper and the Kept mentioned in that book that he never worked with a few of his cobras other then for shows because it he worked with them to much even they would stop displaying. Anyone who had never read that book should, probally the best book ever on keeping snakes after more then 50 years to me it is still the best. :rockon:

Glad to hear that beautiful snake is going to provide education. Education is the key folks, the people who kill any snake they see can't be reached any other way.

Show went well. It hissed a little, but didnt really cut loose like i had hoped. Oh well, i still had the 9 foot 7 inch 31 pound burm for shock factor :D. Ended up taking the pine, black rat, corn, and eastern milk that are locals to show some of our "safe" snakes in the area, and the lab TA's prepaired a slide show covering our local hots. I was very pleased with that aspect of the show. Also, just for fun we took a kenyan sand boa, euromastics (sp?) lizard, leopard gecko, blue tounge skink, bearded dragon, redtail boa, and a western hog nose.

don't know? It's beautiful, I got 3,:D 2 California ones and 1 Arizona pine.
All 3 will hiss and rattle their tail but once you pick it up it's like a kitten so to speak! I love them,

I love Pine snakes! Northerns are my faves - even though they aren't as pretty as Black Pines.

pretty snake, hissing doesnt sound like fun though. I have never heard a snake hiss beofre...but i'm sure i will one day. lol.

Are the California gophers differant than the Arizona ones? What I mean is both my 2 Ca gophers are in their winter sleep now every winter they go to sleep but the Arizona gopher doesn't. Last winter I tried to get him/her to go but it didn't want to. I thought it was important that all gophers and pine sleep?:snake: As for hissing my big gopher does once in a while, he will be sitting in my lap then all at once he'll hiss. these have never bitten me the corns and kings have and the sand boa.
Thanks
Penney

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Are the California gophers differant than the Arizona ones?

Penney

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There are several different subspecies of gophersnakes. In fact, there are several subspecies that are just located in california.

never seen or heard of this kind of snake before but then again i'm still new to snakes

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There are several different subspecies of gophersnakes. In fact, there are several subspecies that are just located in california.

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Wow! I didn't know that! Do you know of a site that tells about them?
Thanks
Penney