killer bees?

now do you get a killer bee by breeding a spider to a super pastel or do yoy do a bumble to a super pastel. cause im confused now i read on N.E.R.D. that you just do a bumble bee to another pastel. can someone help!!!!!

i have a pastel pair and a spider female and im not sure how to go about it?

a pastel x spider= bumblebees
super pastel x spider=killer bees

super pastel bred to a spider will not give you a killerbee. You will have to breed a bumblebee to a pastel. ;)

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Originally Posted by Kizerk

a pastel x spider= bumblebees
super pastel x spider=killer bees

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Not quite.

A killerbee has two pastel genes....making it a super pastel. If a super is bred with just a spider...you'll get bumbles, but not killers, because only one pastel gene will be passed on.

Pastel x Bumblebee
Super pastel x Bumblebee
Bumble x Bumble

Those are the only ways I can think of to get a killerbee.

really?

thanks alot for telling me that, i probably would've kept on thinkin that

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Originally Posted by JLC

Not quite.

A killerbee has two pastel genes....making it a super pastel. If a super is bred with just a spider...you'll get bumbles, but not killers, because only one pastel gene will be passed on.

Pastel x Bumblebee
Super pastel x Bumblebee
Bumble x Bumble

Those are the only ways I can think of to get a killerbee.

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Much better explanation. ;)

thanks so in reality i have three methods of going about this, i dont know if it matters but does one way have better results then the other?

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Originally Posted by SUPERBALLS

thanks so in reality i have three methods of going about this, i dont know if it matters but does one way have better results then the other?

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I believe a Super pastel x Bumble will give you the best odds of making killers. Although...the BEST odds would be killerbee x killerbee. :P

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Originally Posted by JLC

Not quite.

A killerbee has two pastel genes....making it a super pastel. If a super is bred with just a spider...you'll get bumbles, but not killers, because only one pastel gene will be passed on.

Pastel x Bumblebee
Super pastel x Bumblebee
Bumble x Bumble

Those are the only ways I can think of to get a killerbee.

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killerbee x pastel
killerbee x super pastel
killerbee x bumblebee
killerbee x killerbee

what are the odds between a pastel x bumble and a super pastel x bumble, because doesn't both pastel and super have the pastel gene to go with the bumble bee?

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Originally Posted by SnakeySnakeSnake

killerbee x pastel
killerbee x super pastel
killerbee x bumblebee
killerbee x killerbee

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Well duh... :P I left out those combos on purpose because the question was "How do you make a killer" to begin with. So if one already HAD a killer, the question would be somewhat moot. :P

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Originally Posted by Kizerk

what are the odds between a pastel x bumble and a super pastel x bumble, because doesn't both pastel and super have the pastel gene to go with the bumble bee?

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Odds of a killerbee baby?

Pastel x Bumblebee

1/8 chance per baby, so if you have 8 eggs, on avg 1 will be a killer

super pastel x bumble

1/4 chance per baby, so if you have 8 eggs, on avg 2 will be killer

twice the odds :)

Pastel can pass on normal gene or pastel gene, Super Pastel can only pass on pastel gene, since it has 2 pastel genes to make it super.

Think of it this way,

Pastel x Normal = 1/2 the babies pastel on avg, 1/2 normal

super pastel x normal = all the babies are pastel

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Originally Posted by JLC

Well duh... :P I left out those combos on purpose because the question was "How do you make a killer" to begin with. So if one already HAD a killer, the question would be somewhat moot. :P

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Its me! You had to expect it :)

ok, first off sorry for hi-jacking the thread but i think this will follow suite to the topic.


ok so when you breed a bumble to a pastel, some killers could be produced. but what could the others be? pastels? bumbles? or normals? what are the percentages?

Breeding a Bumble to a Pastel, you may produce any of the following:

Killer Bees
Super Pastels
Bumble Bees
Pastels
Spiders
Normals

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Originally Posted by KLG

Breeding a Bumble to a Pastel, you may produce any of the following:

Killer Bees
Super Pastels
Bumble Bees
Pastels
Spiders
Normals

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I can only imagine the anticipation around those clutches!

Heres one way to make killers. :) http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...g?t=1164681725

If I have the square right, the numbers are as follows:

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Originally Posted by KLG

Breeding a Bumble to a Pastel, you may produce any of the following:

Killer Bees (1/8)
Super Pastels (1/8)
Bumble Bees (1/4)
Pastels (1/4)
Spiders (1/8)
Normals (1/8)

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As always, this is theoretical. But no matter how you look at it, a 7/8 chance of producing something other than normal is an exciting clutch!

Why does't a super pastel to a spider make a killer? If you breed a super pastel to a normal you get SP P and Normals. So why wouldn't you get a killer with a Sp to a spider? Sorry for the hi-Jacking, I am curious as to why.

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Originally Posted by stangs13

Why does't a super pastel to a spider make a killer? If you breed a super pastel to a normal you get SP P and Normals. So why wouldn't you get a killer with a Sp to a spider? Sorry for the hi-Jacking, I am curious as to why.

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You don't get SP's from breeding a super to a normal. The babies inherit one of each pair of genes from each parent. The SP can only pass on one pastel gene. ALL the babies will be pastel, but none will be supers because they will have inherited one normal gene from the other parent.

Breeding a super pastel to a normal will produce all pastels, it will not produce a super unless bred to another pastel. ;)

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Originally Posted by JLC

You don't get SP's from breeding a super to a normal. The babies inherit one of each pair of genes from each parent. The SP can only pass on one pastel gene. ALL the babies will be pastel, but none will be supers because they will have inherited one normal gene from the other parent.

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You beat me to it. LOL!!! :rockon:

Oh crazy. Thanks. But isn't- BlackEL+ Normal= fires, BlackEls and normals... or is it like the Super pastel. Arn't they both Co-Dom? I think I missed somehting with the co-doms..

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Originally Posted by stangs13

Oh crazy. Thanks. But isn't- BlackEL+ Normal= fires, BlackEls and normals... or is it like the Super pastel. Arn't they both Co-Dom?

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Same as the super pastel. ;)

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Originally Posted by Wild Bill

Same as the super pastel. ;)

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Really. Thanks Bill!:D