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  • 11-12-2006, 09:40 PM
    SPJ
    Very rare must see boa for sale
    I listed the pair but people only wanted a single so I am going to offer an unheard of deal. A LONE female.:O
    She is a 2005 animal that is very tame and a great eater.
    She has beautiful colors and irridescence which do not show up very well in the pics. A true dwarf species with incredible color changing abilities. This is a locale specific animal from Bluefields Nicaragua.
    The price is $300 plus shipping.

    Darker Phase
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...1/DSCN0184.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...1/DSCN0188.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...1/DSCN0193.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...1/DSCN0185.jpg

    Lighter phase

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...1/DSCN0090.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...1/DSCN0096.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...oas/blboa3.jpg

    Really dark phase next to another one in it's light phase. :D
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...s/4ceff908.jpg
  • 11-13-2006, 03:50 AM
    MedusasOwl
    Re: Very rare must see boa for sale
    *pains* Ugh, torture... I really wish I could, she's gorgeous.
  • 11-13-2006, 04:19 AM
    Slithers
    Re: Very rare must see boa for sale
    ive been drooling over the bluefields for a few months...sorry cant do it! :(

    they are gorgeous, tho!
  • 11-13-2006, 07:30 AM
    rabernet
    Re: Very rare must see boa for sale
    Just curious - since I don't know anything about boas - why are selling individuals (or is it just individual females?) rare?

    And how big do the dwarf species get? I like boas, just not their size when adults for "me" to keep. Saw an adult BCI at OKC zoo last month and went :eek: , that's what size these good folks keep??? LOL And I thought BCI's were supposed to be the smaller of the two (BCI and BCC). I thought it was a BCI, it didn't have widow's peak saddles, but rather the ( ) between the saddles. It was a monster! LOL
  • 11-13-2006, 09:29 AM
    Rapture
    Re: Very rare must see boa for sale
    From what I hear, if you feed them monster prey, they will grow into monsters... You are supposed to be able to safely control their size once they reach a certain point by feeding conservatively. Apparently people start to feed them larger prey items than they would naturally eat.

    I'm not sure why someone would want to buy a lone snake of a rare species... if I were interested I'd definately want a pair. :)

    It's rare to sell lone females because it is a lot harder to sell your male to breeders if he is by himself. Just think about normal balls or het albinos. No one wants to sell off all of their females and be stuck with a bunch of males that aren't high in demand, so they keep the pairs together and offer pair prices, that way they make money off of both of the snakes, and aren't left with anything more difficult to find buyers for.
  • 11-13-2006, 11:23 AM
    SPJ
    Re: Very rare must see boa for sale
    These get nowhere near the size of common BCI. This is a female 2005 animal and she is just a hair bigger than a baby common BCI. Do not confuse these with Colombian BCI or any of the BCC species. Even a Hog Island boa will get larger than these.

    She also eats large prey items like a pig.
    Here she is eating an adult mouse.
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...boafeeding.jpg
    A lone female is very hard to find. I have the 1.1 pair available but no one seemed to be interested in the price for both so I decided to see if there would be any interest in listing a single animal.
  • 11-13-2006, 11:50 AM
    Rapture
    Re: Very rare must see boa for sale
    Don't give up on selling them for what you think they are worth. :) You just have to find someone that's looking for a pair of these.
  • 11-13-2006, 12:26 PM
    RichardA
    Re: Very rare must see boa for sale
    LOL..........the one at the zoo here is a huge one........common sized "keepers" and breeders dont see a size like that very often, only zoos where the food to excersize ratio is a bit off......LOL plus the zoo one is an older snake not used in breeding and so on like a typical boa would be. Dont get me wrong I have been telling people for quite some time that these snakes get big. However one the size if the zoos isnt exactly common either. I mean did you see the annie they have.........ROFL


    ;)
  • 11-13-2006, 12:40 PM
    Schlyne
    Re: Very rare must see boa for sale
    If i hadn't just dropped quite a bit of cash on caging, you'd have a pm on the pair :(
  • 11-13-2006, 12:42 PM
    rabernet
    Re: Very rare must see boa for sale
    I take it from your post that you're in OK? LOL

    Not only one but TWO of those monsters in there together. Actually, the retic was the most impressive one of them all, but that Annie was pretty big too!
  • 11-13-2006, 12:43 PM
    rabernet
    Re: Very rare must see boa for sale
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SPJ
    These get nowhere near the size of common BCI. This is a female 2005 animal and she is just a hair bigger than a baby common BCI. Do not confuse these with Colombian BCI or any of the BCC species. Even a Hog Island boa will get larger than these.

    She also eats large prey items like a pig.
    Here she is eating an adult mouse.
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...boafeeding.jpg
    A lone female is very hard to find. I have the 1.1 pair available but no one seemed to be interested in the price for both so I decided to see if there would be any interest in listing a single animal.

    Thanks Steve and Rapture for explaining to me. So, what is the average length of adult dwarfs?

    And she's beautiful, by the way!
  • 11-13-2006, 01:49 PM
    SPJ
    Re: Very rare must see boa for sale
    From what I have seen with this pair, based upon their eating habits and how fast they are growing, I would say about 4-5 feet max and thinner than a ball python. They are 18 months old now and the male who is the larger of the two, since he eats 2 mice a week (garbage disposal LOL), is just over 3 feet. The problem with this specific type of BCI is that only a few people have them (or have even heard of them) and they have only beed bred in captivity once so far so it's hard to say for certain.

    These were going to be a breeding project for me but with so many animals I am cutting back a bit. Who knows, if they don't sell, I may just try and breed these next year and see what happens.
  • 11-13-2006, 07:29 PM
    MedusasOwl
    Re: Very rare must see boa for sale
    If you do keep and breed them, I'll keep my eyes peeled on that project. :sweeet: When we have more space and I have my beauties situated, I'm definitely getting myself a dwarf boa or two (if two, definitely a project). Either a Bluefields if they're still available or a Caulker Cay if they're not. They're gorgeous, such a great size, and it sounds like good temperments too in both cases! The plan is to get my talons on a dwarf boa before I get my first bp morph further down the road.
  • 11-13-2006, 10:33 PM
    Black
    Re: Very rare must see boa for sale
    Pardon my ignorance, but would the requirements for keeping these snakes be moderately similar to keeping a bal python?

    also, are they availible in the general market from breeders?

    Thank you, Black.
  • 11-14-2006, 12:17 AM
    SPJ
    Re: Very rare must see boa for sale
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Black
    Pardon my ignorance, but would the requirements for keeping these snakes be moderately similar to keeping a bal python?

    Not really. The heat and humidity requirements a bit different. These like it warmer and more humid that common BCI. With a BP you can raise the humidity before a shed. These like it higher all the time.


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Black
    are they availible in the general market from breeders?

    Only 32 were ever made available. I only know of one other person who has a pair they will part with. Everyone else I know who bought the original 32 will not sell them and are planning on breeding them. When word got out that these were available, a lot of people bought several pairs. I really don't expect to see any babies of these in the open market until maybe late 2007 or early 2008. And then it will most likely only be in limited numbers since it was only about 9 or 10 people bought them up.

    Once these become more well known. Look out. They have the outgoing personality of a boa, are docile, and stay under the 6 foot law that most places are passing lately. Basically anyone who wants a boa but doesn't want to deal with the size will have an alternative.

    Very few dwarf boas are available and these are the only locale specific Nic ever. They come from the opposite side of the island than the common Nics you see advertised. (In my opinion they are more closely related to Costa Ricans than Nicaraguans since they come from that side and the pattern and color more closely resembles Costa Ricans than typical Nics.)

    Heck, after writing that, I think I am going to breed them myself.:D
  • 11-14-2006, 01:58 AM
    joepythons
    Re: Very rare must see boa for sale
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SPJ
    Not really. The heat and humidity requirements a bit different. These like it warmer and more humid that common BCI. With a BP you can raise the humidity before a shed. These like it higher all the time.



    Only 32 were ever made available. I only know of one other person who has a pair they will part with. Everyone else I know who bought the original 32 will not sell them and are planning on breeding them. When word got out that these were available, a lot of people bought several pairs. I really don't expect to see any babies of these in the open market until maybe late 2007 or early 2008. And then it will most likely only be in limited numbers since it was only about 9 or 10 people bought them up.

    Once these become more well known. Look out. They have the outgoing personality of a boa, are docile, and stay under the 6 foot law that most places are passing lately. Basically anyone who wants a boa but doesn't want to deal with the size will have an alternative.

    Very few dwarf boas are available and these are the only locale specific Nic ever. They come from the opposite side of the island than the common Nics you see advertised. (In my opinion they are more closely related to Costa Ricans than Nicaraguans since they come from that side and the pattern and color more closely resembles Costa Ricans than typical Nics.)

    Heck, after writing that, I think I am going to breed them myself.:D

    Steve,i told you you would be crazy if you were to sell these lol.Now pull these ads before i find a way to buy them lol.
  • 11-14-2006, 03:03 AM
    SPJ
    Re: Very rare must see boa for sale
    OMG! Joe is making sense! What is the world coming too?:D :D :D :D :D :D


    I think you're right. After explaining about these I'm beginning to wonder what I was thinking by listing them. They don't take up much room so I guess I'll just end up keeping them and being one of the first group of people to ever breed these in captivity (only 1 person has done it so far:D ).
  • 11-14-2006, 08:36 AM
    joepythons
    Re: Very rare must see boa for sale
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SPJ
    OMG! Joe is making sense! What is the world coming too?:D :D :D :D :D :D


    I think you're right. After explaining about these I'm beginning to wonder what I was thinking by listing them. They don't take up much room so I guess I'll just end up keeping them and being one of the first group of people to ever breed these in captivity (only 1 person has done it so far:D ).

    Awwwwwww now that hurts:( .Beware as payback is a (fill in word here):8: :8:.Watch your mail as you now have a ROCK coming your way:P
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