"probing" & "popping" ?

So, Slartibartfast's recent Female is really a male post made me wonder...
***I'm sure this has been covered before:P *** But, how does everyone perfer to sex their snakes? Is popping better that probing? I've seen both done plenty of times... But if I went to an experienced breeder, and asked to learn one of these skills... Witch would you all suggest??? Does age come into play???

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Originally Posted by Laooda

So, Slartibartfast's recent Female is really a male post made me wonder...
***I'm sure this has been covered before:P *** But, how does everyone perfer to sex their snakes? Is popping better that probing? I've seen both done plenty of times... But if I went to an experienced breeder, and asked to learn one of these skills... Witch would you all suggest??? Does age come into play???

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I learned to pop from Tim Bailey. Age does come into play if you pop because as an adult, hemipenes can be harder to expose. The adults naturally have better control. But, I hear probing isn't always right because one may probe deeper than the other but both may be the same sex.

Pop them coming out of the incubator, reconfirm at a later date by probing or poping.


You will run into tweeners every now and then, that will have you pulling your hair out! :rolleye2:

Sooo, is a tweener like a taint? :8: I guess I'll aks to be tought both... Can't hurt, right???

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Originally Posted by tmlowe5704

I learned to pop from Tim Bailey. Age does come into play if you pop because as an adult, hemipenes can be harder to expose. The adults naturally have better control. But, I hear probing isn't always right because one may probe deeper than the other but both may be the same sex.

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So, lets say I pop a BP.... The males have bigger spurs, correct??? I need to look around and try to find some pix!

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Originally Posted by ECLARK

You will run into tweeners every now and then, that will have you pulling your hair out! :rolleye2:

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That's what I was told when I had my pastel male probed...bob from the herp hobby shop probed it. he's pretty good at probing I'm told but he just wasn't sure. Tweener is the word I was trying to think of 1,000 posts ago but thanks for your post ed cuz I'd still be thinking of the term...lol

yeah, he said it was a tweener and to come back 6 months later to have him probe it again but he was going with male so I went with it too

Yea, but that would be a GOOD mistake! lol :P

I've never seen a "big breeder" use a probe on a ball python unless they were teaching someone how to probe.

If you've got "the touch" any ball python can be popped.

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

I've never seen a "big breeder" use a probe on a ball python unless they were teaching someone how to probe.

If you've got "the touch" any ball python can be popped.

-adam

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Dont you ever wonder if you pop a female that is actualy male? i mean once you get the touch I bet you know when its bien popped..but still.

is "popping" like probing, better learned through first hand experience with a breeder? or can instructions be given?

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

I've never seen a "big breeder" use a probe on a ball python unless they were teaching someone how to probe.

If you've got "the touch" any ball python can be popped.

-adam

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Thanks Adam! :D I'm confident that I'll have the "touch"... (I hope) :oops: But my main question is what the visual diffrences are........ after the POP!

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Originally Posted by Kizerk

is "popping" like probing, better learned through first hand experience with a breeder? or can instructions be given?

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I would say Absoutelly!!! I've got someone that will show/teach me if when I see them next... I'm just curious if there is a big visual diffrence.. Or if someone here has an Ancient Chinese Secret on something:P !!! Like left vrs right, hold 3 seconds, shake upside down, etc....

from what i was told, males are red on the inside, females are a shade of white or yellow

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Originally Posted by Laooda

But my main question is what the visual diffrences are........ after the POP!

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Weenies! :carrot:

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

Weenies! :carrot:

-adam

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:rofl:

OK... So, when/if I get a lesson... I'll remember the color thing, thanks!


And Adam, Thanks... :P That part I was pretty clear on!!! :rolleyes: Geeeze! LOL!

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Originally Posted by Laooda

Thanks Adam! :D I'm confident that I'll have the "touch"... (I hope) :oops: But my main question is what the visual diffrences are........ after the POP!

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What do you think.;)

Oh crap thats what I get for not reading the rest!


LOL at Adam..The simplest awnsers can be the funnyest.

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Originally Posted by stangs13

What do you think.;)

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Alright!! I guess what I'm saying is that I've never seen the "inside" of a male & female side by side! I know "weenies" look diffrent on just about everything... so there. (I'm quite aware that I just left myself open for a few jabs)! :oops: lol But basicially if I were to POP a snake, I wouldn't know what to look for... but I guess no one is gonna post any pix. of random parts!!! :P Probablly a good thing..... I'm sure it's better to get hands on instruction.... THIS POST IS SOOO HARD to word correctlly! :oops:

I was kidding..lol. Ill find you some snake weenies!:carrot:

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Originally Posted by Laooda

Alright!! I guess what I'm saying is that I've never seen the "inside" of a male & female side by side! I know "weenies" look diffrent on just about everything... so there. (I'm quite aware that I just left myself open for a few jabs)! :oops: lol But basicially if I were to POP a snake, I wouldn't know what to look for... but I guess no one is gonna post any pix. of random parts!!! :P Probablly a good thing..... I'm sure it's better to get hands on instruction.... THIS POST IS SOOO HARD to word correctlly! :oops:

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Seeing it first hand and doing it in front of an experienced person is best. That way if you start moving the snake the wrong way they will let you know.

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Originally Posted by tmlowe5704

Seeing it first hand and doing it in front of an experienced person is best. That way if you start moving the snake the wrong way they will let you know.

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I know... that's why I havn't gone and mollested my critters! lol :P I wouldn't try something like that without help from an experienced "popper"!

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Originally Posted by stangs13

I was kidding..lol. Ill find you some snake weenies!:carrot:

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It's all guud in da huud! And, pkease don't! :oops:

"L" please stop posting.....Im rolling on the floor, and trying very hard not to respond to your posts. neg. rep is something I dont need.


maybe a little hands on experience is all that you need. :P

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Originally Posted by ECLARK

"L" please stop posting.....Im rolling on the floor, and trying very hard not to respond to your posts. neg. rep is something I dont need.


maybe a little hands on experience is all that you need. :P

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OK!!! I give up!!! :ohmygod: :picknose: :ignore: So,.... How bout' them ducks???

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Originally Posted by Laooda

OK!!! I give up!!! :ohmygod: :picknose: :ignore: So,.... How bout' them ducks???

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Quack a' lackin!

Fine then no snake weenies for you!

I-can't-repyl-......Ouch! This almost hurts!!!:P

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Originally Posted by Laooda

I-can't-repyl-......Ouch! This almost hurts!!!:P

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Almost? Its killin me...

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Originally Posted by Laooda

So, Slartibartfast's recent Female is really a male post made me wonder...
***I'm sure this has been covered before:P *** But, how does everyone perfer to sex their snakes? Is popping better that probing? I've seen both done plenty of times... But if I went to an experienced breeder, and asked to learn one of these skills... Witch would you all suggest??? Does age come into play???

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In my opinion its best to know how to probe and pop as sometimes you need to do both just to make sure on the sex.

Thanks Joe.... very good point!!:D

Does that mean no weinie pix? I guess snake porn is not allowed :colbert:

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Originally Posted by westcoastjungle

Does that mean no weinie pix? I guess snake porn is not allowed :colbert:

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O yea you fit in with this group:rockon: :8:

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Originally Posted by stangs13

Dont you ever wonder if you pop a female that is actualy male? i mean once you get the touch I bet you know when its bien popped..but still.

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Once you've learned to pop - to quote Jamie "the difference is clear!"

Does anybody know a link that shows a male poped and a female poped next to each other for comparison? That would great for reference. :banned1:

ask jeeves he's always willing to help.