blood? Cloacal area?

Ok So a few weeks ago after I got Columbus one morning I found a splotch of blood in his cage - and thought maybe it was the bark bleeding onto his paper towels (I put Bark on the bottom and then 2 layers of paper towels on top to hold the humidity in, anyhow)...

Then earlier this week I noticed a blotch of blood on my shirt, but thought maybe it was a stain or something, so I thought I would keep an eye on him - there is NO BLOOD in his cage.

So I was holding him today and he decided to pee all over me (again 2x this week) and when he was done peeing there was a blotch of blood left on my pant leg again - so I looked at his cloacal area and sure enough there was just a bit of blood there????

Any ideas?? His shed was 2 weeks ago so it was not from a shed:(

Thanks:)

Cara

well it certainly doesn't sound good, and I don't think anyone can give you a diagnosis over the internet...a vet trip is the obvious recommendation here. Good luck.. please keep us updated

ya keep us updated on what your vet says please.

sending hugs and healing vibes to your snake!

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well it certainly doesn't sound good, and I don't think anyone can give you a diagnosis over the internet...a vet trip is the obvious recommendation here. Good luck.. please keep us updated

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I agree with Nate somethings not right.Keep us posted

Thanks:) yes I will definately take him to the vet but I thought I would ask here first so I can ask questions at the vet office to make sure they don't overlook anything. I have not quite yet found a vet that makes me feel like they are passionate about BP's :(

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Thanks:) yes I will definately take him to the vet but I thought I would ask here first so I can ask questions at the vet office to make sure they don't overlook anything. I have not quite yet found a vet that makes me feel like they are passionate about BP's :(

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To bad you were not closer to me.I have 2 vets at the same place that love reptiles of all types.They never refuse to help me when its needed and i have helped them on a couple reptile rescues:cool: .I am sending positive thoughts your way:)

Yea well I am asking BP's Rock who lives here in Colorado for his vets name, the one I went to did not handle my baby the way I would have liked, he was a little rough and matter of factly! I guess you could say his bedside manners sucked!

Thanks everyone for the good thoughts - Now I just hope I can sleep tonight:( I can't stand the thought of something being wrong with him:( He even refused to eat today - instead he climbed out of his cage and onto my lap!

Have you looked on the colorado ARAV list?

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Have you looked on the colorado ARAV list?

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Yes - that is where I found the one that I had picked out - who was then "off" the day I needed her and referred me to the one I went to. :( Maybe I will try the one that was "off" the day I needed her.... Waiting for the offices to open .....:(

Some blood (very little) from around the cloacal area is normal during a shed. Outside of shed time, I haven't seen it. How much blood are we talking about?

Here is a pic of the blood stain he left on my shirt. as you can see it is in the shape of his spurs at the cloacal
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...0/ec2b34d3.jpg

great so far Vet seems stumped:( Going to another one at 5pm!

Hope all goes well with this second vet!

Keep us updated.

Hopefully the vets don't over price you.. The snake vet by me charges 65 bucks just to come in the front door..... so I use the back one:D;) I hope it is nothig major!

yep $68 a visit!!! But he (being Columbus) is worth every dime to me:) I can't imagine something happening to any of my BP's:)


Leaving work to go take him...............

Well I don't quite know how to tell you all what the vet thinks is going on... Not sure if its possible, but I'm not the vet she is.....

1. X-rays - look awesome
2. he looks awesome - no signs of anything wrong
3. Said he was an absolutely gorgeous normal
4. Thinks that.... here's the part I don't understand... Thinks that a womans scent when in cycle is confusing him and the little blood discharge is sexual???

He has been trying to stick his spurs in me and it only happens when I am holding him.... Anyone else think this vet is way off????:confused:

I am totally stumped too, i have never heard of that, but i am new to herping as well. He said that your scent threw him off, because you are a woman? I really dont think that snakes are sexually attracted to humans, and that your scent would change his sexual behaviors.
I wish you the best of luck, and hope it all gets sorted out!

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Well I don't quite know how to tell you all what the vet thinks is going on... Not sure if its possible, but I'm not the vet she is.....

1. X-rays - look awesome
2. he looks awesome - no signs of anything wrong
3. Said he was an absolutely gorgeous normal
4. Thinks that.... here's the part I don't understand... Thinks that a womans scent when in cycle is confusing him and the little blood discharge is sexual???

He has been trying to stick his spurs in me and it only happens when I am holding him.... Anyone else think this vet is way off????:confused:

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I would venture to say that there is nothing wrong with him. While I don't think #4 is plausible, I guess anything is possible.

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I would venture to say that there is nothing wrong with him. While I don't think #4 is plausible, I guess anything is possible.

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i agree....see if the bleeding passes, if it doesn't then i would say bring him to a diffrent vet, it will cost you more money, but you said that you are willing to do anything for your babies.

I've sent you the link to where I take my reptiles - They are a bit pricy, however have a few doctors there experienced with both keeping and treating exotics...

I produced that guy and had him for over a year and never saw any blood. Although I don't think I make a very attractive date for him :)

yea like I said I think it is a little weird and not really possible... but everything else is checking out perfect on him, so maybe that is why the vet thinks this or she probably felt like she had to give me a diagnosis and that was all she could come up with. I will continue monitoring him. :rolleye2:

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I've sent you the link to where I take my reptiles - They are a bit pricy, however have a few doctors there experienced with both keeping and treating exotics...

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Thanks Mike - I will leave him as be for now - BUT I will start trying your vet from here on... if needed - hopefully NOT!

*sprays himself down with Axe*

i'm going to handle ALL of my female ball pythons.....lets put this theory to test!

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I produced that guy and had him for over a year and never saw any blood. Although I don't think I make a very attractive date for him :)

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Thanks Jamie - :D I wish I knew what was going on... But I guess all I can do is watch over him and see if it stops.... since everything else points to him being PERFECT :rockon:

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Thanks Jamie - :D I wish I knew what was going on... But I guess all I can do is watch over him and see if it stops.... since everything else points to him being PERFECT :rockon:

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No worries...I would guess all is well but don't hesitate to call or email me if you need anything!

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Well I don't quite know how to tell you all what the vet thinks is going on... Not sure if its possible, but I'm not the vet she is.....

1. X-rays - look awesome
2. he looks awesome - no signs of anything wrong
3. Said he was an absolutely gorgeous normal
4. Thinks that.... here's the part I don't understand... Thinks that a womans scent when in cycle is confusing him and the little blood discharge is sexual???

He has been trying to stick his spurs in me and it only happens when I am holding him.... Anyone else think this vet is way off????:confused:

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O my god we are being over run by sex starved ball pythons:8: .I think we had a thread back a short time ago where the snake was trying to get "funky" with the persons arm or something lol.Sorry to be blunt here,i think your vet needs to stop smoking that wacky weed :P .I do not think its possible for a snake to get "fired up" because some women is cyclying:8: :8: ,now dogs do:P

OK Here is what Ralph Davis says about... since I am buying two new het albinos from him - I thought I would just see if he had an ideas...

"Looks like he just shed and his peens were still raw........males shed their peens too.........and they will be tender and raw afterwards."

Ralph Davis

Wow,

I have never heard of the shedding peens:eek:

My male is shedding at the moment so in a day or so I shall be inspecting the vent of the shed skin with a fully engaged prurient curiosity :)


I know when my tarantula shed she sheds her sex organs and becomes virginal once more as thats the best way to sex them if you have access to a shed.

Are they noticeable on the shed skin? because if they are wouldn't this be used as sex determination?



dr del

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Originally Posted by HIGHMAINTENANCE

OK Here is what Ralph Davis says about... since I am buying two new het albinos from him - I thought I would just see if he had an ideas...

"Looks like he just shed and his peens were still raw........males shed their peens too.........and they will be tender and raw afterwards."

Ralph Davis

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Ohhhhhhhh you are killing every male that will read this :8: :8:

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Wow,

I have never heard of the shedding peens:eek:

My male is shedding at the moment so in a day or so I shall be inspecting the vent of the shed skin with a fully engaged prurient curiosity :)


I know when my tarantula shed she sheds her sex organs and becomes virginal once more as thats the best way to sex them if you have access to a shed.

Are they noticeable on the shed skin? because if they are wouldn't this be used as sex determination?



dr del

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Dr del ,you scare me :eek: :P .To much curiosity will get you some poo in the face :8: :8:

glad you found an answer to this. ;)

Very interesting!!! Glad you got an answer.

Now call your "herp vet" back up and let her know that she is... a little off but next time she'll now know. ;)

very glad this was posted b/c this also happened with my snake. confirms he's a boy too. yikes, poor thing :omg:

I wonder if you vet is confusing snake behaviour with green iguana behaviour. A friend of mine that does iggy rescue has done a lot of reading on some theories that male iggy's are reactive to hormonal changes in their female keepers and have shown heightened aggression during certain times in the woman's cycle. Sexually mature male iggy's will do a grab, bite type behaviour during attempts to mate and will do that with humans if a receptive female iggy isn't present. The more you try to push them away the more aggressive they can get. My friend wonders though if it's unrelated to a breeding reaction as much as it's just "the big dumb human's scent is different...I think I shall bite it!" LOL

I wonder if your vet just made the leap from "well if an iggy can react, maybe a snake can too" sort of thing.

Now this is worrying me - I was sure my Emily is a girl - but whenever she's out recently she keeps going to my husband - trouble is he HATES snakes :eek:

emily is probably doing the same thing cats do. ever notice cats go to the person in the room who dislikes them the most LOL

Ok,


He shed. I went and cut the shed apart to get a good pic - not a sign of peens.

Now I know he's a male cos he's a daddy.I can see where his spurs were and can understand there being some minor abrasions at the point the shed pulls away from the body but I wanted to see shed peens dammit.

Any one else wanna chip in on this?

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...6/00_00001.JPG


And before anyone asks the black stuff is damp peat from the wetbox and the reason its not a good pic is cos I'm a wally :P


dr del