Pastel breeding question..

What do you get if you keep breeding Pastels? Meaning, I know that Supers are a result of breeding two pastels.. so how would the genetics go if you just kept breeding your pastels up and up? Supers to supers,then their offspring to other supers, etc... I am just curious. Of course, I would assume that there would be different bloodlines to prevent endless inbreeding; but how would the offspring appear; do they get more super looking, or just stop at a certain point?

You'd just get more supers. There are two alleles at each gene.. they can either have one copy (pastel) or two copies (super pastel) they can't have any more than two copies of pastel.. so it stops at super. Of course you can selectively breed for lighter supers, or reduced supers.. but they're still supers genetically.

Thanks! You have satisfied my curiousity. :)

I can say that I have seen quite a few Pastels that were offspring from a Super to normal, and they appear to be a notch above a typical Pastel However, the Super, is one of the better ones out there. I don't know if that was along the lines of what you were asking, but if I had to buy a Pastel all over again, I would buy one from a Super breeding.

April, You mean to tell me that I will never be able to make super dupers, You have just taken away my dreams. :P


Seriously, just by breedind pastel X pastel to produce supers the pastels that come out of this breeding are very faded and super hot looking.

super sibling.these are the regular pastels out of a pastel X pastel breeding. notice the faded head. :) https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...uperfemale.JPG

:tongue2: Ummmm, that's an awsome pastel...... I hope my little male grows up 1/2 that nice... he's a super x normal cross.

ed,

is that a lemon or VPI pastel?

Hey now Ed, you know I'd love a super duper pastel just as much as you would. :P

The F2 pastels are IMo the best looking pastels out there. So just imagine F5 pastels!!! :carrot:

Graziani?

You'd probably end up with really nice pastels and really nice supers if you kept selectively breeding them for good color. :)

Pastels are very variable and you never really know what you will produce when breeding these. I think that you have a better chance of producing great pastels by starting out with the best you can get your hands on. I used to be all about the extreme blushing of the graziani bloodlines and they make insane looking supers. now I have made a 180 and am heading back into the other direction and concentrating on the ones with the lemon colors and the jet black backgrounds.


Aleesha, the super sibling pastel was produced by breeding a graziani X import pastel together. that is a killer snake, but I felt like the yellow colors were more like butterscotch instead. It made me hungry for some butterscotch pudding so I sold all those and bought a bunch of new babies to raise up and this winter will be the first year for them breeding. George Clooney is gonna be the man and these new ones should make the best ever lemon pastels, time will tell?

i was thinking the same thing... thanks ed :)

i purchased a few normal females from a pastel to normal breeding and i think that they look much better than a normal to normal female would. they have much more yellow colouring reduced pattern and a lot of blushing.

very nice if i would say so myself...