to old to breed?

I just picked up an 10 year old female today and I wanted to know if she is to old to breed?

As the owner told me she has yet to breed her but put her into "cooling" for breeding. Sadly though (and good for me) she is not able to breed her due to some over spending so I ended up buying her.

I dont have a weight on her yet and will get that tomorrow when I get her back from the vet's office. I'm having a full work up done on her at the expence of the lady I bought her from. Really nice gal, she wanted me to know I was getting a good snake and a proven female.

Also when would be a good time to start breeding her if she is not to old? and that would be after her 3 weeks of setteling in and after 6 to 8 months of being keep away from the other snakes.

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Originally Posted by jessie_k_pythons

I just picked up an 10 year old female today and I wanted to know if she is to old to breed?

As the owner told me she has yet to breed her but put her into "cooling" for breeding. Sadly though (and good for me) she is not able to breed her due to some over spending so I ended up buying her.

I dont have a weight on her yet and will get that tomorrow when I get her back from the vet's office. I'm having a full work up done on her at the expence of the lady I bought her from. Really nice gal, she wanted me to know I was getting a good snake and a proven female.

Also when would be a good time to start breeding her if she is not to old? and that would be after her 3 weeks of setteling in and after 6 to 8 months of being keep away from the other snakes.

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Congrats Jessie:) .In my opinion as if it was myself here would look to breeding her the next season.Not saying you could breed her and get some late eggs maybe.The age i am not sure on so hopefully Adam sees this and chimes in.

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Originally Posted by jessie_k_pythons

I just picked up an 10 year old female today and I wanted to know if she is to old to breed?

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No.

-adam

Thanks Adam

As for breeding her next season I really have no choice.(ps?) she has to stay in the living room for about 8 months. LOL I just wanted to know if after the 8 months, when would be a good time to breed her?

Congrats Jessie! Hope she lay's a bunch of fertile eggs for ya! How big is she would you say? (length wise?)


We're definitely going to need pictures! On the breeding side...Correct me if i'm wrong but...I've heard that females have bred up to 20yrs of age? 20-22or 23? something like that... Anyways have fun with her!
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she is a good 5 feet max and is a big girl! not fat but very nicely built. She was bought 8 years ago from a reptile show, with plans of breeding, but a new human babycame along and stoped plans for breeding and she became a pet. Plans for breeding started again but over spending spoiled the project and the gal had to sell all of her snakes. all the rest were normal males, and I'm swamped with them so I just took the female.

I have been reading like crazy about breeding, temps, weights, sizes, amount of eggs, how many days untill what... and so on and so forth. but I'm having a hard time finding stuff on one on one breeding. (one male to one female.) I have a whole book (I made this book for myself, 162 pages worth) on breeding and still nothing. I'm now going to check here in this site and if I still cant find anything I will just have to ask about it.

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Originally Posted by jessie_k_pythons

but I'm having a hard time finding stuff on one on one breeding. (one male to one female.)

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what kind of breeding are you finding info on? because as far as i know... all breeding is done one male and one female. :confused:

lol I guess i didnt put it in the right words... everything I'm reading is about breeding a bunch of males to a bunch of females. I want to know how many times should I breed the same male to the same female. everything talks about rotating males with in the female groups but it says nothing about when a male is placed back in with that female.

is it simular to most animals, as in, place the male in for 2 days untill they lock, wait untill they unlock and wait untill signs that the female is ovulating? (sp?) or every 3 or 4 days try and pair them again untill she rejects him?

i would do a search on the forum cause i know i've read the answer to this in the last week or two (was it gen's thread?)

yeah i'm trying to look and search... but every one keeps posting good threads that are worth a read or laugh... then I end up saying something and I loose track of time joking and putzin around. LOL

I was told to try for a minimum of 5 locks. I also heard that ou can breed a female that is over 20 years old.
Good luck! Good catch!
Wolfy

www.ballpythons.ca

They have great info on breeding there as well as a pic by pic of everything. If I am not mistaken, doesn't Adam from 8ball have breeding info on his site?

I actualy have both in the breeding part of my "Big Book of Ball Pythons" (this book is for me and me only) and I went over both but I will read them again.

Both are a great read. The gal just called me and said that she could be a poss het for albino as well but not to count on it. Still I cant wait to bring her home tomorrow.

the next few weeks will be hard lol. she is just so hugable!

Jessie,last year(05) was my first time breeding and i had just one normal to one normal female.I used the introduce the male to the female for three days then seperate for three days and offer them each food.I continued this until they showed no interest in each other.I am doing this same technique now only using two females.Basicly no matter how many females used to breed i stick to the same schedual.I hope this explains everything:)

um joe... putting two females together isn't going to get you any viable eggs :rofl:

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Originally Posted by recycling goddess

um joe... putting two females together isn't going to get you any viable eggs :rofl:

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:eek: Too funny!

i know... i cracked myself up :rofl:

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Originally Posted by jessie_k_pythons

Really nice gal, she wanted me to know I was getting a good snake and a proven female.

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Please correct me if I'm wrong. But my understanding is that a proven female has in the past been bred and produced viable eggs. Or was that just her way of saying yes it is definately a female?

ha ha ha. I understand what was said. LOL. I could try that and see what happens. Thanks Jo

Blu I wouldnt know. for her price if she in fact turned out to be male I wouldnt be riped off. it would end up being just another one of the large males I already have that I was told to be female. She comes with paperwork stating that she is female and she is at the vet's office getting checked out, and i will have to see what the vet says on her sex.

The only truth I can get out of this is when I place her with a male and I see a lock... I doubt 2 males will lock LOL or 2 females for that matter LMAO!!

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Originally Posted by jessie_k_pythons

The only truth I can get out of this is when I place her with a male and I see a lock... I doubt 2 males will lock LOL or 2 females for that matter LMAO!!

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I just read something about two males locking up. I think it has to do with domination..

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Originally Posted by jessie_k_pythons

I doubt 2 males will lock

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You doubt wrong. ;) :sweeet:

-adam

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Originally Posted by recycling goddess

um joe... putting two females together isn't going to get you any viable eggs :rofl:

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HA HA HA i forgot one normal male instead of the normal i missed :omfg: :neener: :neener: Hey i am typing with just one hand,my other arm is in a sling.:( lol

really??? they how the @#$% am I going to know if I have a female? I heard that there are times that a "female" is locked by a male but nothing comes out of it.

I guess the only way to know is to spend the $500 to get a proven female that has laied eggs befor huh..... :(

so here is another question.... some breeders sell female Ball Pythons that have not laied eggs for the typical female price. how do they know for 100% that the snake they just sold is infact female? wouldnt that be in a way lieing? or ripping off the customer? with out a 100% breeding that ended up with eggs and babies at the end how can they really know for sure? to me it would seem more like a guess then proof.

now i dont know what to believe.... :confused:

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Originally Posted by jessie_k_pythons

so here is another question.... some breeders sell female Ball Pythons that have not laied eggs for the typical female price. how do they know for 100% that the snake they just sold is infact female? wouldnt that be in a way lieing? or ripping off the customer? with out a 100% breeding that ended up with eggs and babies at the end how can they really know for sure? to me it would seem more like a guess then proof.

now i dont know what to believe.... :confused:

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All I can say is to buy from someone you trust. I bought a female from Adam, (too young to have had any eggs...she's an '05) and I have NO DOUBT that she's a "she." And IF on the utterly freaky chance he was mistaken, I have no doubt that he would make good on the deal by giving me another female of the same age. It pays to work with someone who's not only very skilled at what they do, but will always be there to back up their deals.

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Originally Posted by jessie_k_pythons

so here is another question.... some breeders sell female Ball Pythons that have not laied eggs for the typical female price. how do they know for 100% that the snake they just sold is infact female? wouldnt that be in a way lieing? or ripping off the customer? with out a 100% breeding that ended up with eggs and babies at the end how can they really know for sure? to me it would seem more like a guess then proof.

now i dont know what to believe.... :confused:

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by probing and popping! once you learn to probe, it's not that hard to tell a male from a female. nothing is perfect with no room for error. just because they are female also doesn't mean they will breed,ovulate and lay good eggs either. breeding balls will humble you and teach you patience.


vaughn

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Originally Posted by jessie_k_pythons

how do they know for 100% that the snake they just sold is infact female?

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Because little boy snakes have hemipenes and little girl snakles do not. ;) :sweeet:

-adam

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Originally Posted by joepythons

HA HA HA i forgot one normal male instead of the normal i missed :omfg: :neener: :neener: Hey i am typing with just one hand,my other arm is in a sling.:( lol

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still? how much longer?

sorry for razzen' you, i couldn't resist :rofl:

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Originally Posted by recycling goddess

still? how much longer?

sorry for razzen' you, i couldn't resist :rofl:

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Well since i was told i needed to stop wasting thread space with my health problems i will pm you.This message was left in a pm on fauna about this site.

I asked the woman how she found out that Pandora was a female. was she told or what? She told me that when her and her husband bought her it was for the sole idea in breeding her. she was probed at the show and then a male was probed to show the difference. She said that she picked Pandora out of a small group of "poped" females
and then was probed for her for "proof."
That was what she told me.

I guess the proof will be in the pudding if she ever gives me a clutch LOL.

well this isn't fauna joe. ignore them https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/files/2/5/4/7/roll.gif

It is getting close to when I have to pick up Pandora... I can sleep.... :D

Well she came back from the vet in 100% health and as the vet told me, she is all girl.
all I'm waiting on is a few more tests that will be ready by monday. She is setteled in her cage. The lady that I got her form insisted I take the cage.

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Originally Posted by jessie_k_pythons

I guess the proof will be in the pudding if she ever gives me a clutch LOL.

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Huh? That's ridiculous. The sex of a snake can be determined just like any other animal, you don't have to wait for a clutch. I don't understand what the great mystery is?

-adam