Lock Up!

We put our male, LaVey, in with our loaner female to see what'd happen.. she just shed and is a big girl at 1850g. Got a lockup! That's my boy. :) We didn't do a quarantine in-house because Mark's brother has had her for years and she's healthy.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ve/lockup1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...e/locking2.jpg
A plug!? About 3/4 of an inch long. There was a bunch of yellowy fluid in the tub also.. :carrot:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...evive/plug.jpg

I am practically doing cartwheels here!!

that rocks congrats! can't wait to see some eggs!!!

Congrats Jen. Praying for eggs for you.

is there a chance that after the lock up that the female won't produce eggs?

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Originally Posted by liam_rokocoko

is there a chance that after the lock up that the female won't produce eggs?

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Yup. The female can reabsorb the eggs or throw slugs (infertile eggs).

Best of luck Jen!

Awesome Jen they got right to it , you can't beat that!!!

Looks like the party has started at your house:carrot:

Gotta love those tail-hugs!!! I'm psyched for ya!

I can't wait t'ill the day that everyone is ready at my house and I can see that magnificent deed taking place. I've got everyone quaranteened right now...
oh well :oops:

Good luck though! :)

Awesome stuff Gin!! Best of luck!

Woooooo Hooooooo Yea Gin! Awesome and wish you luck on some upcoming eggies.

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Originally Posted by tigerlily

Yup. The female can reabsorb the eggs or throw slugs (infertile eggs).

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Actually, it's the follicles that can be reabsorbed, not the eggs ... once a female ovulates, they're coming out.

But even before all that, the bigger challenge is getting the female to ovulate in the first place ... timing the breedings with the right point of follicular development is what makes the difference between a "breeder" and someone just putting two snakes together. ;)

-adam

Congrats Jen!! ;)

Lockups here so far.

het pied x het pied
albino x axanthic 50% het albino
albino x 50% het albino
albino x 50% het albino
pastel X normal
odd male X normal
het orange ghost x normal
het genetic stripe x normal

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

Actually, it's the follicles that can be reabsorbed, not the eggs ... once a female ovulates, they're coming out.

But even before all that, the bigger challenge is getting the female to ovulate in the first place ... timing the breedings with the right point of follicular development is what makes the difference between a "breeder" and someone just putting two snakes together. ;)

-adam

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adam,

so how do you know when she's ovulating? is like people.. you see her plotting to kill her husband/kids, eating chocolate in the corner and hording the remote control?

seriously though... how do you know?

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Originally Posted by recycling goddess

adam,

so how do you know when she's ovulating? is like people.. you see her plotting to kill her husband/kids, eating chocolate in the corner and hording the remote control?

seriously though... how do you know?

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It's not like people at all ... females ovulate (hopefully) AFTER they are fully of sperm ... so you don't have to time the precise ovulation, just create the conditions that induce the development of follicles in the female and eventually cause the female to ovulate ... the copulation is the easy part for the most part.

FWIW, ovulation can't be missed ... females swell to several times their normal size ... kinda like they swallowed a football ... and it last for 12-24 hours.

-adam

oh okay so you have to introduce the male and female first, then she ovulates and then hopefully, some eggs.

thanks adam!

I am definately familiar with ovulation; Ginger felt like she was full of air when she ovulated last year. Then the eggs came a day or so afterward.
I have been watching thie girl at Mike's house; she is definately in super condition and healthy. I plan on being a breeder, not just a snake-putter-together. :) I didn't go the cooling route because, I have read about a lot of people who skip it (Joepythons being one I can think of right now.)
My pastel male is not ready in my eyes yet; I am letting him grow a few months on before introducing him to my girls. If he still doesn't get the job done, LaVey will go in with them.
I might be a mere fledgling breeder at this point, but I am definately not just an ignoramus.

I should add that they are still locked up at post time. :D

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

Actually, it's the follicles that can be reabsorbed, not the eggs ... once a female ovulates, they're coming out.

But even before all that, the bigger challenge is getting the female to ovulate in the first place ... timing the breedings with the right point of follicular development is what makes the difference between a "breeder" and someone just putting two snakes together. ;)

-adam

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:doh: Thanks for correcting that. For some reason, I have EGGS stuck in my head. :oops:

after ovulation, the female will go into a shed. usually around 2 weeks give or take. this shed is important to note. generally about 30 days after this shed you can expect eggs!

here is a ovulation pic,

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...9/DSCN0652.JPG


vaughn

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Originally Posted by Wild Bill

Lockups here so far.

het pied x het pied
albino x axanthic 50% het albino
albino x 50% het albino
albino x 50% het albino
pastel X normal
odd male X normal
het orange ghost x normal
het genetic stripe x normal

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Is that possi het albino female I sold you ready to go? If so I hope she proves for you! Is that the het orange ghost male from me too? Good luck with the breedings this season Bill!:rockon:

-Jason

That is a stunning female, Vaughn!

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Originally Posted by tigerlily

:doh: Thanks for correcting that. For some reason, I have EGGS stuck in my head. :oops:

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Cesa De whevo? (exscuse the spelling) :P

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Originally Posted by stangs13

Cesa De whevo? (exscuse the spelling) :P

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What are you talking about, FF? Cesa de whevo?

Could anyone explain why they swell up like that during ovulation... what's happening physiologically? :confused:

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Originally Posted by xdeus

Could anyone explain why they swell up like that during ovulation... what's happening physiologically? :confused:

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The females mid body swells to allow the ovum (which are 30 millimeters or more each in diameter at that point) to pass through the infundibulum and down the oviduct. (This is also the point where fertilization takes place ... or not) ... The swelling helps to facilitate the movement of the ovum.

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

The females mid body swells to allow the ovum (which are 30 millimeters or more each in diameter at that point) to pass through the infundibulum and down the oviduct. (This is also the point where fertilization takes place ... or not) ... The swelling helps to facilitate the movement of the ovum.

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I knew you'd come through Adam... thanks! Now I have to practice saying "infundibulum" 10 times fast. :)

BTW, I just found a very good link describing the entire process.

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Originally Posted by JBallPython

Is that possi het albino female I sold you ready to go? If so I hope she proves for you! Is that the het orange ghost male from me too? Good luck with the breedings this season Bill!:rockon:

-Jason

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She is close, she is still trying to get there. ;)

Yeah, he is a horny little devil. He has locked up that girl 3 times already.

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Originally Posted by xdeus

I knew you'd come through Adam... thanks! Now I have to practice saying "infundibulum" 10 times fast. :)

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Infundibulum is something he does when he is home, all by himself... :D

when i say that outloud i feel like i should be banging on the bongo drums... https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...4/7/hippie.gif

They're still locked up; we should all be as lucky.
:)

They have seperated and are at opposite ends of the tub.. I plan on putting the male back into his tub and going from there.