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  • 10-30-2006, 06:55 PM
    Amy1217
    oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    okay, so i just got my second snake. They are so frieking addicting after that:rolleyes:. I thought that snake racks were totally pointless, but now i want another snake, and i know why you all have them. haha. Anyways...so i want to breed in the future, my normal male is a an '05, and i want to get him a future breeding mate. What type of morph do you guys think i should get? or, should i not even invest in a morph at all, and stick with a normal? I love a lot of morphs, Super Pastels are my favorite, Pieds, Hypos, and Axanathic.
    Any suggestions from people that have gone through this before?
    Thanks a lot!!!:sunny:
  • 10-30-2006, 07:02 PM
    Shelby
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    Haha.. a budding herpaholic.

    Get whatever morph you like best.. dominant genes are nice because you can produce morphs in the first season. Pastels are a common first choice in a morph.
  • 10-30-2006, 07:03 PM
    whitesnake12
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    I would get a female pastel then breed the to in 2010 or 09 and you will get a 50/50 split of normals and pastels then breed a pastel male to your female and you may get a super
  • 10-30-2006, 07:04 PM
    Amy1217
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    if i get a super and breed her to my male what will i get?
    I am so bad with genetics...
  • 10-30-2006, 07:05 PM
    Shelby
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    Super bred to normal = all pastels.
  • 10-30-2006, 07:05 PM
    Amy1217
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shelby
    Haha.. a budding herpaholic.

    haha. tell me about it. I am the same way with horses, but they are more expensive...i can handle only having one of those, but snakes, they are so darn cute, and not as expensive to keep, and i LOVE trying to keep the temperatures regular. It is a real joy for me! (not being sarcastic. lol)
  • 10-30-2006, 07:05 PM
    daniel1983
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Amy1217
    if i get a super and breed her to my male what will i get?
    I am so bad with genetics...

    A super pastel breed to a normal would give you all pastels.

    It take 2-3 years to raise a female ball python to breeding size, so make a choice that you can be happy with for that time ;)
  • 10-30-2006, 07:06 PM
    Amy1217
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    and if i bred one of those pastels to the supers what would i get?
    haha. im glad you all know about this.....
  • 10-30-2006, 07:06 PM
    whitesnake12
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    or you may do the albino morph idea buy 2 hets breed the hets and hopefully you will produce a albino or you can do what I am doing buy a pastel female and spider male then breed them produce bumble bees and sell or trade for a piebald or axathic
  • 10-30-2006, 07:07 PM
    whitesnake12
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    pastels and supers
  • 10-30-2006, 07:07 PM
    daniel1983
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Amy1217
    and if i bred one of those pastels to the supers what would i get?
    haha. im glad you all know about this.....

    Here is a good interactive site that will help you understand pastels ;)

    http://www.ballpythons.ca/what_get/co_dominant.html
  • 10-30-2006, 07:09 PM
    whitesnake12
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by daniel1983
    Here is a good interactive site that will help you understand pastels ;)

    http://www.ballpythons.ca/what_get/co_dominant.html

    thanks daniel I was about to post that great minds think a like
  • 10-30-2006, 07:10 PM
    Shelby
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    Hah yeah I am a horseaholic too, but I can only afford one of those right now. lol I have a TB gelding too.
  • 10-30-2006, 07:11 PM
    Amy1217
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    haha. thanks a lot! I really like albinos too! Its such a toss up! I wish there was a wildcard BP, that would produce a whole bunch of morphs, you just didnt know what untill they were hatched. haha. Anyways, I really want a super, but i think the price is way out of my range (thats another thing i have to consider...). If i was to get a pair, i would get a pair of Het.Pieds, but i really dont want 2 more snakes. I have another tub, which is enough for 1 snake, and i cant afford food for 4 snakes just yet. I am getting a second job in December though, sooo you all know what im probably going to do with my extra money. haha.




    edit- i just played around with that site. the most ideal thing for what i want would be to have a pastel and a super, and breed those, buttt i am not planning on getting two snakes at the moment, like i said. Ill get a pastel, a super if i can afford one. lol.
  • 10-30-2006, 07:12 PM
    Amy1217
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shelby
    Hah yeah I am a horseaholic too, but I can only afford one of those right now. lol I have a TB gelding too.

    oh awesome! color? age?
    Mine is going to be 7 January 13th, a dark bay. started his racing training, but luckily never finished!
  • 10-30-2006, 07:14 PM
    whitesnake12
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    well good luck of what you chose to do pastel females are now only about $800 and pair pied hets are about $1200 just to let you know and it is hard to chose I cant wait to get my spider and het albino saturday then pastel the 16th
  • 10-30-2006, 07:16 PM
    mmchoppers
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    There is a "wild card" bp, it's called a woma.
  • 10-30-2006, 07:18 PM
    whitesnake12
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    to womas mated to gether makes a pearl
  • 10-30-2006, 07:19 PM
    mmchoppers
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    There is also the wannabe (woma x pastel x spider)
  • 10-30-2006, 07:21 PM
    Shelby
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    My guy is 19.. had him for 5 years. Fleabitten grey ex race horse.. 16.3 hands. We used to do jumper, but now more dressage.
  • 10-30-2006, 07:21 PM
    whitesnake12
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mmchoppers
    There is also the wannabe (woma x pastel x spider)

    do you have a pic of that that i can see?
  • 10-30-2006, 07:26 PM
    Amy1217
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shelby
    My guy is 19.. had him for 5 years. Fleabitten grey ex race horse.. 16.3 hands. We used to do jumper, but now more dressage.

    cool! im a big NH person (natural horsemanship)...I do love jumping and dressage, im definatley not a western person! mine is only 15.3hh. a little small for a TB:cool:
  • 10-30-2006, 07:26 PM
    mmchoppers
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
  • 10-30-2006, 07:28 PM
    whitesnake12
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    g2g to karate amy good luck
  • 10-30-2006, 07:28 PM
    Amy1217
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    oh my lord. that is absolutley beautiful! I hate seeing all these pretty morphs. i always end up changing my mind.........
  • 10-30-2006, 07:28 PM
    Amy1217
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by whitesnake12
    g2g to karate amy good luck

    Thanks! have fun at karate! (2 of my best friends are instructors)
  • 10-30-2006, 07:29 PM
    whitesnake12
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    nice I like the pastave better (pastel x mojave)
  • 10-30-2006, 07:29 PM
    Shelby
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    mmchoppers - you can't directly post images hosted on another site like NERD's.. that's taking their bandwidth, that's why I changed it to a link.
  • 10-30-2006, 07:32 PM
    whitesnake12
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    amy here a pastave I think you saw it on candy box i want a candy box


    http://photos.imageevent.com/royalpy...ce_Pastave.jpg
  • 10-30-2006, 07:33 PM
    whitesnake12
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    shelby sorry 4 posting the pic it self didnt see your post untill after i posted this
  • 10-30-2006, 07:35 PM
    mmchoppers
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shelby
    mmchoppers - you can't directly post images hosted on another site like NERD's.. that's taking their bandwidth, that's why I changed it to a link.

    Oh ok. I saw the link and was like, what.... didn't I post a pic, I'm loosing my mind:rolleye2:
  • 10-30-2006, 07:40 PM
    whitesnake12
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    so amy any idea on what you are going to do?
  • 10-30-2006, 07:43 PM
    whitesnake12
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    g2g latter amy let us know what you are going to do
  • 10-30-2006, 07:51 PM
    Amy1217
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    adorable snake! so many dicisions!!!!!!!
  • 10-30-2006, 07:56 PM
    Kara
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    Here's a better WannaBee pic - the best examples have an almost "calico" appearance, like this one:

    http://newenglandreptile.com/forumpics/wanna1.jpg

    :)

    K~
  • 10-31-2006, 03:53 PM
    Amy1217
    Re: oh lord...you all warned me about this...
    I am still not sure. The only thing that i know for sure is that i dont want to get more than one more snake. And i love albinos and pastels. I have contacted a few breeders, and am asking about prices and payment plans. Ill make sure to let you all know what i decide to do for sure...when i know. lol.
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