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  • 10-29-2006, 02:04 AM
    SPJ
    Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
  • 10-29-2006, 02:21 AM
    whitesnake12
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    are you sure there both males you know its breeding time right now
  • 10-29-2006, 02:22 AM
    SPJ
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
  • 10-29-2006, 02:23 AM
    joepythons
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    Steve,are these your snakes? Someone is not a male or kinda shaky:eek:
  • 10-29-2006, 02:24 AM
    SPJ
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    Let's just say I have a sick feeling in my stomach that I just got :cens0r:
  • 10-29-2006, 02:28 AM
    whitesnake12
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    I don' t know what to tell ya but good luck with the problem I wish I could help
  • 10-29-2006, 02:30 AM
    recycling goddess
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    hmmmm.... i'm guessing they were supposed to both be males and that they aren't having an arm wrestling competition to see who gets the hide? :rofl:
  • 10-29-2006, 02:32 AM
    whitesnake12
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    I would seperate the to if you can and have room to do it just to be on the safe side, how old are they?
  • 10-29-2006, 02:54 AM
    rmune0750
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    im confused at whats going on in those pics :confused::confused:
  • 10-29-2006, 02:56 AM
    recycling goddess
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    i think it's a little x-rated!
  • 10-29-2006, 03:34 AM
    Shaffer
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    Can snakes be gay? Hmmmm
  • 10-29-2006, 04:42 AM
    LadyOhh
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    I have had two males go at it together before... I had no doubt in my mind that they were males..


    So yes.

    I have seen that.
  • 10-29-2006, 06:28 AM
    sweety314
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    Steve, I hope your incubator has room for one more!!! :P
  • 10-29-2006, 07:11 AM
    jcaustralia
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    i have had the same experience as well, both 100% confirmed males locking up. probably one showing the other who is boss!, lol.
  • 10-29-2006, 08:24 AM
    kavmon
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    that's like 2 guys in a prison cell, one is bubba, and one is called nancy! :D




    vaughn
  • 10-29-2006, 02:06 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    Male ball pythons will copulate if kept together ... it's a form of dominance ... I've seen it many times.

    -adam
  • 10-29-2006, 02:20 PM
    jcaustralia
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    Male ball pythons will copulate if kept together ... it's a form of dominance ... I've seen it many times.

    -adam

    yup but don't ask on ks cause they think you are nuts and full of it, lol, i found that out.
  • 10-29-2006, 02:49 PM
    JASBALLS
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shaffer
    Can snakes be gay? Hmmmm

    It's OK Here in NJ... Still shaking head...
  • 10-29-2006, 07:40 PM
    Ginevive
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    Are they mating or fighting? And if fighting: why the heck would you put two males together? And if mating: congratulations.
  • 10-29-2006, 07:47 PM
    BP's Rock
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JASBALLS
    It's OK Here in NJ... Still shaking head...

    LMAO - I'm originally from Jersey, but did not partake in "That Thread" :rockon:
  • 10-29-2006, 07:47 PM
    RichardA
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    Everyone seen the other pic of the gravid one right? Am I the only one that seen the other pic..........LOL


    Congrats?

    LOL :)
  • 10-30-2006, 01:10 PM
    mattah320
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    awww...they are having a brokeback moment
  • 10-30-2006, 01:46 PM
    SPJ
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nightmare Creatures
    Everyone seen the other pic of the gravid one right? Am I the only one that seen the other pic..........LOL


    Congrats?

    LOL :)

    Based upon the responses so far, I think you are. LOL.:D :D :D :D
  • 10-30-2006, 02:02 PM
    JLC
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SPJ
    Based upon the responses so far, I think you are. LOL.:D :D :D :D

    I saw the picture, but have been so confused about this whole thread I wasn't sure if I should jump in or not.

    If you had two "known males" why were they allowed to be together long enough to "copulate" in the first place? And if, indeed, it turns out one of them was NOT male, but is actually a female who may now be gravid...why would that bother you so much? Sounds like a happy turn of events to me.

    And yes...it has happened before, to other members here...to have a snake they thought was male turn out to be a female who's become gravid.

    (Just yet another reason not to house snakes together, even if you think they are the same sex...any pregnancy brings risk to the animal, and unexpected ones even more so.)
  • 10-30-2006, 02:14 PM
    TekWarren
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    I was waiting for the punch line also but I don't see one coming...Judy you took the words right out of my mouth.


    ???
  • 10-30-2006, 02:26 PM
    daniel1983
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    The only other reason I could think of to put two males together is to stimulate a breeding responce by putting the males in a competition type situation. If that wasn't the reason, I don't know why someone would house two males together.

    From those of you who have observed males asserting dominance in this fashion, have anyone noticed damage to the males hemipene? I figure there might be some sort of struggle when this takes place and damage to reproductive organs can occur. Also, will female ball pythons show this kinda behavior if placed together?

    From my readings on reptiles, asserting dominance in this fashion is fairly common with some reptiles. Some people have kept pairs of monitors together for years.....witnessed them 'breed' and never got eggs...then they were stunned to find out they had two males (or two females) that were simply showing dominance over each other.
  • 10-30-2006, 02:47 PM
    SPJ
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    Story in a nutshell.


    These pics are from last season. I only had pics of copulation and when she was about to drop. I never took a pic of her on the eggs since the eggs were duds.

    I sold the striped FEMALE. The person who bought it said it was a male. I said no way it is a proven female. Now after seeing the pics and resexing it, he says he is sorry since it probed 5 scales so he thought it was male.

    Now I just need to get the payment.
  • 10-30-2006, 03:16 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by daniel1983
    From those of you who have observed males asserting dominance in this fashion, have anyone noticed damage to the males hemipene?

    No, but the stress caused on the subordinate male by an incident like that has been known to be fatal.

    -adam
  • 10-30-2006, 03:16 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SPJ
    Now I just need to get the payment.

    WOW.

    -adam
  • 10-30-2006, 04:45 PM
    TekWarren
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    Risky player letting an animal go without payment up front! eek!
  • 10-30-2006, 09:48 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Anyone ever see 2 males like this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TekWarren
    Risky player letting an animal go without payment up front! eek!

    This is not what happened.More to the story then whats here allready.I will let Steve fill in the rest.
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