Homeschooling

I just wanted to get everyones opinion on homeschooling.

Not an option for this two-income fambly ;)

OK 3.5 income - my bad.

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Originally Posted by worldcupkeeper

I just wanted to get everyones opinion on homeschooling.

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I rank it right up there with home dentistry and home surgery....

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Originally Posted by Gecko Den

I rank it right up there with home dentistry and home surgery....

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Hmm... interesting. We've homeschooled for the past 6 years, although our two sons are now in a co-op school. Our eldest is scoring above average in all subjects, and has skipped two grades in math. He also has no problem socializing at school. Maybe I should post an ad for home root canals now?

I was homeschooled throughout highschool. Later on when I found out some of the things that happened at the highschool, I was so glad I was not there to be part of it.

The only bad part about home schooling is the fact of not getting to work on your public social skills.

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Originally Posted by Vomitore

The only bad part about home schooling is the fact of not getting to work on your public social skills.

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That's a myth. My homeschooled sons have experienced more socially than I ever did as a public school student. It all comes down to the child and parents.

Public school, private school, homeschool... they can all produce great results or very poor results. There are a lot of factors that need to be considered instead of just stating that one method is superior over all others.

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Originally Posted by xdeus

Hmm... interesting. We've homeschooled for the past 6 years, although our two sons are now in a co-op school. Our eldest is scoring above average in all subjects, and has skipped two grades in math. He also has no problem socializing at school. Maybe I should post an ad for home root canals now?

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Congratulations. The original poster asked our thoughts, I gave mine. Glad that it has worked out well for your children. Let me know how the root canal works out for you.....:)

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Originally Posted by xdeus

That's a myth. My homeschooled sons have experienced more socially than I ever did as a public school student. It all comes down to the child and parents.

Public school, private school, homeschool... they can all produce great results or very poor results. There are a lot of factors that need to be considered instead of just stating that one method is superior over all others.

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Partially depends on the child wether they are out going or not. I'm just lookin at the view of if the child is one who keeps to themself.

well in the case of my son home schooling is a much better option because of his education placement and the poor attutude from school officials on his case, but due to my seperation and stuff it is not possible to homeschool at this time.

I went to public school from kindergarten through 7th grade.. I was extremely shy and introverted, had hardly any friends and was depressed most of the time.

From 8th grade on I was homeschooled.. I am completely different now. I held a job as a tour guide for a year (and even enjoyed it) and now I am very much better adjusted socially and have a great job for someone my age. Most people don't believe that I was once so painfully shy anymore.. public school was a sucky place to get people skills if you ask me.

I think that it is a good option for some people. The only time it makes me worry, is when parents do it to purposely shelter their kids from the world and from those with different beliefs/ideals than they have. I went to a religious school for all of elementary, and some of highschool, before I started being able to think on my own and realize that its beliefs were not for me at all.

I look at it this way, as stay at home parent I am home schooling my child right now, any parent is home schooling in a way, so why stop once they reach "school aged?" I'm going to school Raigen from home until she tells me she wants to go to attend school with other children. I'll show her the options, and pros and cons for both (if I can find any for home schooling) and let her decide.
But as a parent I feel better schooling her myself, I think it's important to let your child lead you into what is right for them, not what is right for everyone else's or whats the "norm."
I wish I wouldnt of attended public school, I thin kI would of done alot better in a smaller class size....been able to learn and do at my own pace and not have to strive to fit in. I'm going to try it with her, maybe she will do alot better in situations that I failed in and want to go to school with other children...we'll see.

We homeschool our youngest, 7yr old. He's doing way better now than at our local elementary. He's doing 4th grade work in all subjects. Sometimes he says the work is too easy.

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Originally Posted by xdeus

Hmm... interesting. We've homeschooled for the past 6 years, although our two sons are now in a co-op school. Our eldest is scoring above average in all subjects, and has skipped two grades in math. He also has no problem socializing at school. Maybe I should post an ad for home root canals now?

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It is avrage(sp) for a kid to skip a few grades in math. Or any subject for that matter. And i socalize really good in school . You have a better chance of going to college too. My cousins are in homeschool. Those kids are very very behind. And cant handle themselves with other kids therre age...very immature...and are very unsocialable.

Just my .2 pennies.

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Originally Posted by stangs13

It is avrage(sp) for a kid to skip a few grades in math. Or any subject for that matter. And i socalize really good in school . You have a better chance of going to college too. My cousins are in homeschool. Those kids are very very behind. And cant handle themselves with other kids therre age...very immature...and are very unsocialable.

Just my .2 pennies.

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How can it be "average" for a child to skip a few grades in school? The last I checked, Americans were far behind global standards on all subjects especially math. Also, I believe homeschoolers have a much better chance at entering college than public school students. Statistically, homeschoolers outperform public school students on all subjects.

With that said, I have seen homeschool students that were behind their public school counterparts academically and I have also seen a number of homeschool students that were socially inept. But I have also seen the same thing with public and private school students.

My point is that one shouldn't generalize and try to put an entire educational sector into a tiny stereotype. Homeschooling is a viable option for a variety of different circumstances and individuals, and it's gaining a pretty large foothold in this country. There is a lot to be said for one-on-one education especially with class sizes becoming larger and the educational system becoming more bureaucratic. In addition, there are a ton of resources and options available for homeschool familes from support groups to weekly reviews from county teachers and school districts.

Hmm... I think that was four cents worth. :2cent: :2cent:

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Originally Posted by TheAudOne

I look at it this way, as stay at home parent I am home schooling my child right now, any parent is home schooling in a way, so why stop once they reach "school aged?" I'm going to school Raigen from home until she tells me she wants to go to attend school with other children. I'll show her the options, and pros and cons for both (if I can find any for home schooling) and let her decide.
But as a parent I feel better schooling her myself, I think it's important to let your child lead you into what is right for them, not what is right for everyone else's or whats the "norm."
I wish I wouldnt of attended public school, I thin kI would of done alot better in a smaller class size....been able to learn and do at my own pace and not have to strive to fit in. I'm going to try it with her, maybe she will do alot better in situations that I failed in and want to go to school with other children...we'll see.

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I think you are right on.

Plus that it helps kids to figure out what they truly have a passion for in life.. so they can focus on learning the things that will actually be useful to them instead of spending time on something that holds no interest for them. Much of the stuff they teach in public schools isn't even used by most adults.

If I wasn't homeschooled I probably wouldn't have had the time to find my passion for keeping snakes.. among other things.

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Originally Posted by stangs13

It is avrage(sp) for a kid to skip a few grades in math. Or any subject for that matter. And i socalize really good in school . You have a better chance of going to college too. My cousins are in homeschool. Those kids are very very behind. And cant handle themselves with other kids therre age...very immature...and are very unsocialable.

Just my .2 pennies.

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Did you skip english class by any chance?

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Originally Posted by stangs13

It is avrage(sp) for a kid to skip a few grades in math. Or any subject for that matter. And i socalize really good in school . You have a better chance of going to college too. My cousins are in homeschool. Those kids are very very behind. And cant handle themselves with other kids therre age...very immature...and are very unsocialable.

Just my .2 pennies.

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Also, it's not exactly smart to use your two slow cousins as an example of how ALL home schooled children are.
I think my cousins are pretty stupid too, and they all went to public school..graduated and live on there own!
And it is NOT average for a child to skip grades...especially math!
Homeschooling is hard for people to understand, if you havent read up on it...seen it in action or even thought for a moment that it is a possiblilty...then you wont respect the decision to do it.
Plus, its all up to the teacher (usually a parent...some times not)on how the child turns out, if the parent is doing it so they wont have to get up early....or do anything then of coarse the child will fall behind and become "slow" compared to other children there age.
Homeschooling is amazing because you can customize the material to the child, say you dont like math...well it would be my job as the parent to intergrate it into your learning with out the direct approach most schools take. Also a fact, you can take a 6 hour public school day and turn it into less then 1-2 hours if you want, family vacations can be turned into fieldtrips, you learn at your own pace...which every child is eager to do....but with homeschooling your not sitting in a sterile environment being force taught and judged by peers and teachers (grading)

You need to look up how many famous celebrities and people that influence us on a daily basis were home schooled.....its shocking!

In my state homeschooling became legal in the 80's due to a fathers passion to home school his 6 children...he actually went to jail for doing it before it was legal, because he didnt understand why he wasnt able to do it...when asked by police if they went to school he said "yes....our school" he helped make it legal and at that time you didnt have to actually start school until you were 7 years old....I think its nuts to send our 5 year olds to school....this is why I will homeschool Raigen...I mean every day I am with her...teaching her life lessons....she knows more sign language then I do!! So I like to think that so far I've done an amazing job with her. I hated public school, but I wont use my problems with it to keep her out...she'll have the option to "try it on for size" and if she says "yes I like it" then I'll let her go, I'm also not worried about her social development..I run a moms group, we go to local parks each week, take fieldtrips each month, go to the beach, go for hikes, take care of the small zoo we have in our home, go to the movies etc.
She is over social..I've never owrried once in the fast paced world we live in the she could become anti-social because she is homeschooled....do you become a hermet during spring break? Christmas Break? And summer vacation?

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Originally Posted by xdeus

How can it be "average" for a child to skip a few grades in school? The last I checked, Americans were far behind global standards on all subjects especially math. Also, I believe homeschoolers have a much better chance at entering college than public school students. Statistically, homeschoolers outperform public school students on all subjects.

With that said, I have seen homeschool students that were behind their public school counterparts academically and I have also seen a number of homeschool students that were socially inept. But I have also seen the same thing with public and private school students.

My point is that one shouldn't generalize and try to put an entire educational sector into a tiny stereotype. Homeschooling is a viable option for a variety of different circumstances and individuals, and it's gaining a pretty large foothold in this country. There is a lot to be said for one-on-one education especially with class sizes becoming larger and the educational system becoming more bureaucratic. In addition, there are a ton of resources and options available for homeschool familes from support groups to weekly reviews from county teachers and school districts.

Hmm... I think that was four cents worth. :2cent: :2cent:

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I have LOTS AND LOTS of friends who have skipped grade levels in math. I could if I wanted too. Im just saying...many kids jump grade levels.

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Originally Posted by TheAudOne

Also, it's not exactly smart to use your two slow cousins as an example of how ALL home schooled children are.
I think my cousins are pretty stupid too, and they all went to public school..graduated and live on there own!
And it is NOT average for a child to skip grades...especially math!
Homeschooling is hard for people to understand, if you havent read up on it...seen it in action or even thought for a moment that it is a possiblilty...then you wont respect the decision to do it.
Plus, its all up to the teacher (usually a parent...some times not)on how the child turns out, if the parent is doing it so they wont have to get up early....or do anything then of coarse the child will fall behind and become "slow" compared to other children there age.
Homeschooling is amazing because you can customize the material to the child, say you dont like math...well it would be my job as the parent to intergrate it into your learning with out the direct approach most schools take. Also a fact, you can take a 6 hour public school day and turn it into less then 1-2 hours if you want, family vacations can be turned into fieldtrips, you learn at your own pace...which every child is eager to do....but with homeschooling your not sitting in a sterile environment being force taught and judged by peers and teachers (grading)

You need to look up how many famous celebrities and people that influence us on a daily basis were home schooled.....its shocking!

In my state homeschooling became legal in the 80's due to a fathers passion to home school his 6 children...he actually went to jail for doing it before it was legal, because he didnt understand why he wasnt able to do it...when asked by police if they went to school he said "yes....our school" he helped make it legal and at that time you didnt have to actually start school until you were 7 years old....I think its nuts to send our 5 year olds to school....this is why I will homeschool Raigen...I mean every day I am with her...teaching her life lessons....she knows more sign language then I do!! So I like to think that so far I've done an amazing job with her. I hated public school, but I wont use my problems with it to keep her out...she'll have the option to "try it on for size" and if she says "yes I like it" then I'll let her go, I'm also not worried about her social development..I run a moms group, we go to local parks each week, take fieldtrips each month, go to the beach, go for hikes, take care of the small zoo we have in our home, go to the movies etc.
She is over social..I've never owrried once in the fast paced world we live in the she could become anti-social because she is homeschooled....do you become a hermet during spring break? Christmas Break? And summer vacation?

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Now there not slow..they can be ver smart..lol. And I didnt give them as a general example of ALL the homeschooled kids either.

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Originally Posted by TheAudOne

Did you skip english class by any chance?

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Nope!:carrot:

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Originally Posted by TheAudOne

Did you skip english class by any chance?

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I dont skip school.

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Originally Posted by stangs13

I have LOTS AND LOTS of friends who have skipped grade levels in math. I could if I wanted too. Im just saying...many kids jump grade levels.

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Perhaps, but I'm still not sure how you can use that criteria for public school accomplishments when American math scores are so pitiful. I believe my homeschool student is "average" when it comes to world standards in math, which places him above most public school students. The only thing I have to base that on is my public school experience, observing the other public schools in my area, discussions with public school teachers, and the amount of work I put into teaching my son including pouring through different curriculums and testing.

So besides your slow cousins, tell me what other criteria you've used to determine homeschooling as a nonviable option?

Is math really necessary? I count on my fingers anyway... :)

All the kids I knew of who were homeschooled were all a little strange. I know I'd be a little off if I had to hang out with my mom all day every day for the first 17 years of my life too...

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Originally Posted by jglass38

Is math really necessary? I count on my fingers anyway... :)

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Do you wear open-toed sandals in case you have to do higher math? :nerd:

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Originally Posted by xdeus

Do you wear open-toed sandals in case you have to do higher math? :nerd:

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I don't find that I ever need to count above 10! :D

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

All the kids I knew of who were homeschooled were all a little strange. I know I'd be a little off if I had to hang out with my mom all day every day for the first 17 years of my life too...

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Amen brother!

I for one am a single parent so homeschooling is not an option and even if I was a stay at home mom I, 1. do not have the patience for it 2. My son is very active in sports (football and basketball). And I know here homeschoolers can attend public school for sports but it's not the same.
I also feel the fun of high school like homecoming, prom etc is lost when homeschooled.

But that is like discipline, each parent and family have to decide what works best for them. There are pros and cons to both public and homeschool I don't think you can say one is better than the other. It's all in what works for you.

As far a s test scores and who does better in college etc that is a hard one to pin down also. I know public, home and private schoolers who do way above average, average and poor. Not so much where your schooled but what's in side of you and your motivation. You can succeed for anywhere.

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Originally Posted by jglass38

I don't find that I ever need to count above 10! :D

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Ah, but what about those times when you need to know 100?

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

All the kids I knew of who were homeschooled were all a little strange. I know I'd be a little off if I had to hang out with my mom all day every day for the first 17 years of my life too...

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Your hardly hanging out with your mom all day.....plus I know of some Dads who homeschool!
With sports, there are plenty of classes to take and teams to be on that arent linked to any school. There is a homeschoolers association in our area, it strives to keep our kids active, and let them do things like organized sports...although some might argue against the whole sport thing to begine with.
But there are plenty of famous athletes that have been taught from home, to name a few: skater Tanith Belbin won the gold in the 2005 State Farm U.S. Figure Skating Championships, Chad Compton won the title of top Junior Surfer in the U.S., 14-Year-Old Alexa Glatch was named one of the top 5 Americans in the World Junior Tennis Rankings. So I dont think missing out on sports or other social events is really something that can be argued....and is something that for sure no one should worry about.

A few people we have heard about that were homeschooled:
Lindsay Lohan, Raven Symone, Elijah Wood, George Washington, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Alexander Graham Bell, Thomas Edison, Claude Monet, Ansel Adams, Amadeus Mozart, Irving Berlin, Charlie Chaplin, Charles ****ens, Mark Twain, Albert Einstein, George Washington Carver, Melinda Sullivan.

Plus there are a million diffrent forms of homeschooling....I know only homeschoolers realize this,

To break them down shortly there is:
Traditional or 'School at Home'
The traditional method of instruction would be similar to the public school style with a curriculum, grading, testing and schedules. Usually a curriculum package is used with the typical grades and subjects taught in a school. The 'school at home' family will usually have a daily schedule and will typically also have school days and vacation days.

Unit Study

Unit studies are an integrated thematic approach to learning several subjects/concepts through a main topic. Topics or themes can be chosen by the child's interests, experiences in family life, books, events in the news, etc. This method can be used with different grades at one time to incorporate all the children of a family. Unit studies can be made up by the parent, taken from a book of unit studies or from sources on-line. For example, a child's interest may be insects. Several subjects can be covered with this one topic. Science includes the insects' body parts and habitats. Geography is learned by studying different countries' insects. Many fictional books with insect characters can be found to cover reading. Social studies is covered with insect control or insect use in different cultures. For more help planning your own unit study

Waldorf

Waldorf education educates the whole child -- head, heart and hands. It is geared to the child's stages of development and incorporates all elements -- intellectual, artistic, spiritual and movement. The goal is to produce individuals who are able, in and of themselves, to impart meaning to their lives.

Charlotte Mason

Charlotte Mason was an educator in the 1800's. Her method "is based on core subjects and incorporates the fine arts. Children deal directly with the best books, music and art. The children are trained in the practice of narration, or telling back what they've learned. The emphasis is always placed on what the children do know rather than what they do not know. This training in essay-style examination effectively prepares children for adulthood and success in college." Her material covers an extensive amount of topics including: the formation of good habits, keeping a Nature Diary, and preparing a handmade Book of the Centuries. Charlotte Mason advocates the avoidance of twaddle, or what we might call "dumbed down" literature, and replaces twaddle with classic literature and noble poetry. Her method also includes a unique style of dictation and spelling.

Classical Education/Trivium

The Classical Approach to education is based upon the medieval scheme of education teaching children to think, not teaching "subjects". The medieval syllabus has as the primary part of education the Trivium. The Trivium consists of three parts: "Grammar", "Dialectic", and "Rhetoric". The first part, "Grammar", is not the subject of grammar; rather it is the study of the basic facts of different subjects. This stage covers the ages of approximately 6 to 10, the stage when children are the most receptive to information and will readily memorize information. The "Dialectic" stage, begins at approximately age 10 when children naturally begin to demonstrate independent or abstract thought. In the "Rhetoric" stage, the aim is to produce a student who can use language, both written and spoken, eloquently and persuasively to express what he thinks.

Eclectic

Using any combination of methods of homeschooling!!

Natural Learning/Child Led Learning/Unschooling

Education is not separated from living life. In unschooling, learning can happen anywhere and at anytime. It is an ongoing and natural endeavor. (this is what we will practice...mixing in diffrent teaching styles as we see fit) People are misguided and think its just sitting at home with mom/dad and having to hear them go on and on about stuff you learn in school...well it isnt, and its sad that one would say "I couldnt imagine being at home with my mom all day" right now I know there is no where my daughter would rather be, why not grow, learn and love right along side your child?

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A few people we have heard about that were homeschooled:
Lindsay Lohan, Raven Symone, Elijah Wood, George Washington, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Alexander Graham Bell, Thomas Edison, Claude Monet, Ansel Adams, Amadeus Mozart, Irving Berlin, Charlie Chaplin, Charles ****ens, Mark Twain, Albert Einstein, George Washington Carver, Melinda Sullivan.

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To me, a list the includes Lindsay Lohan and Elijah Wood listed before Albert Einstein and Mozart has zero credibility. LOL....

Public school kicks it! Where else would kids learn about drugs, sex, and Rock n' roll? :headbang:

...LOL...try teaching how to deal with that kinda stuff in homeschool ;)

All joking aside.....Public school worked great for me and my wife, so I see no reason to homeschool our children in the future. However, if both the public and private schools in the area were so bad that our children would not recieve a proper education....then homeschooling would be an option. Actually, I can not think of a reason for homeschooling besides having a special needs child or lack of proper educational instruction in existing schools in the area. If any of you have other reasons, I would like to hear them just to be educated on the topic ;)

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Originally Posted by daniel1983

Actually, I can not think of a reason for homeschooling besides having a special needs child or lack of proper educational instruction in existing schools in the area.

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<-- Also a product of public education and until I discovered it did not pay enough to cover the bills I taught in public schools (HS).
My wife works in the evenings for an online education service which offers online high school completion and course credits. They do more than just the traditional make-up-failed-classes type stuff offering many of thier credits to homeschooled kids, internationally schooled (I know what a pain that is having finished half my HS education in India) and more. Some kids will not do well in a clasroom situation - period - whether public OR private schools - and it doesnt always have to do with ADHD. Some kids' brains just motor along at a thousand miles an hour and obviously the teacher cannot cater the class to that one curve-breaking individual. Bored because they "already get it" their minds wander. Individual instruction (whether at home, online or witha tutor) suits these kids much better since it can be tailored to their unique pace. I've never been that kid so it was a little hard for me to understand - but now as a parent of one it has been quite an experience. I don't think one or the other is superior - and there are so many variables involved it's hard to qualify all of them. I'm glad our kids are in public school and glad I was as well (though in no way do i mean that to demean private or home schooled programs). I do think it's a crying shame though that we pay our public school teachers so poorly as to drive people away from the profession who otherwise might make astounding contributions to impact and inspire kids.

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Originally Posted by daniel1983

schools in the area. If any of you have other reasons, I would like to hear them just to be educated on the topic ;)

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To me it's all about quality of education. In the public school system you're at the mercy of whichever teacher or class your child ends up with. However with homeschooling, you can modify the curriculum to suit your childs' needs and abilities. Everyone learns differently, yet the public schools cater to the majority. Sure, every child can learn the same things and have essentially the same education, but with homeschooling you can make it a more efficient and enriching experience. You can get the same education done in less time which will leave more time for additional experiences for your child such as sports, additional studies, playtime, field trips... whatever.

I find it interesting that the opponents to homeschooling really don't know much about it other than knowing some weird people that were homeschooled, yet they have such strong opinions about it.

All I know about homeschooling is that my cousins in Idaho are/were homeschooled. They are named Rainbow, Paz, Dove and Hope (their father is named Green) and their mother in the past grew weed on the roof of her trailer. Just a little insight into my world :)

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Originally Posted by jglass38

All I know about homeschooling is that my cousins in Idaho are/were homeschooled. They are named Rainbow, Paz, Dove and Hope (their father is named Green) and their mother in the past grew weed on the roof of her trailer. Just a little insight into my world :)

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LOL.....sounds like just about all the homeschooled kids that I ever knew....that, or it appeared like they were in some kinda religous cult ;)

I guess certain areas have different kinds of homeschools.....

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Originally Posted by daniel1983

LOL.....sounds like just about all the homeschooled kids that I ever knew....that, or it appeared like they were in some kinda religous cult ;)

I guess certain areas have different kinds of homeschools.....

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The thing is....its the wacky ones we hear about...or at least, they're the stories we're apt to remember. But there are millions of families all around us...and how many of them do we get to actually see what's going on inside? A handful or two at the most. So you just don't know about all those families out there who successfully homeschool their kids and are perfectly "normal" or "mainstream." Doesn't mean they're not there.

I think the choice to homeschool also has a LOT to do with the abilities and personalities of the parents, too. Both my older children have their own struggles in the public schools they attend....and both of them may benefit greatly from a good homeschool environment. However....even though I consider myself relatively bright and well educated.....I would have a horrible time as a homeschooling parent. I'm too disorganized...I procrastinate too much...I'm too impatient....do not have good teaching skills towards children...... So homeschooling, in MY household, would only be considered as a very last resort.

But I've known women who thrive on the 24/7 company of their children and absolutely love the chance to educate them at home. They do beautifully....and I envy them.

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Originally Posted by jglass38

All I know about homeschooling is that my cousins in Idaho are/were homeschooled. They are named Rainbow, Paz, Dove and Hope (their father is named Green) and their mother in the past grew weed on the roof of her trailer. Just a little insight into my world :)

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Okay... Rainbow, Dove and Hope I can understand... but Paz?! Sounds like the result of a bad trip. :rolleye2:

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Originally Posted by jglass38

All I know about homeschooling is that my cousins in Idaho are/were homeschooled. They are named Rainbow, Paz, Dove and Hope (their father is named Green) and their mother in the past grew weed on the roof of her trailer. Just a little insight into my world :)

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So when's the road trip donkey? I can't believe you've been holding out on me!!! :eek:

-adam

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Originally Posted by xdeus

To me it's all about quality of education. In the public school system you're at the mercy of whichever teacher or class your child ends up with. However with homeschooling, you can modify the curriculum to suit your childs' needs and abilities.

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If things are constantly made to suit a child's specific needs and abilities, what do you do so that they will not think that the world will always adjust to them? For example.... what happens when your child goes to college or gets a job? Neither will change their policies to suit your children.

I am not an opponent to homeschooling just trying to figure it out...because heaven knows...that may end up being option with my children one day ;) Every person that I have ever know that was homeschooled always seemed very odd...maybe I was just seeing the extreames of homeschooling. I guess that could be one reason some people are close minded on the topic.

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

So when's the road trip donkey? I can't believe you've been holding out on me!!! :eek:

-adam

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Hahaha...Its all about the curtain man...That's why I hold out...

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Originally Posted by daniel1983

If things are constantly made to suit a child's specific needs and abilities, what do you do so that they will not think that the world will always adjust to them? For example.... what happens when your child goes to college or gets a job? Neither will change their policies to suit your children.

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Nah, that's quite a bit different. Everyone learns and solves problems differently, including in the work place. Homeschooling just modifies their education to best fit their particular learning abilities, but it's not as if the child expects everyone to change to suit their needs. To the child, it's still just schoolwork...

The same thing probably happens in public schools as different teachers utilize different teaching methods, so for some students it's more beneficial and others are left struggling.

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Originally Posted by jglass38

Hahaha...Its all about the curtain man...That's why I hold out...

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I can see that ... I mean, I bet it's pretty hairy under THAT curtain.

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

I can see that ... I mean, I bet it's pretty hairy under THAT curtain.

-adam

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Exactly..Like the 70s...

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Originally Posted by daniel1983

If things are constantly made to suit a child's specific needs and abilities, what do you do so that they will not think that the world will always adjust to them? For example.... what happens when your child goes to college or gets a job? Neither will change their policies to suit your children.

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i've been homeschooling for over 12 years now. my eldest daughter graduated from homescooling and is turning 20 next week. she sells computers and she's the top salesperson in the store - out sells all the other departments and sales people by over 100%!!! this is definitely her "thing" right now (proud mother moment). she's been homeschooled since she was 8 (she went to public school before that). she hated school, was bullied... it was awful. when we decided to homeschool she became confident and happy... smiling all the time - such a huge difference in who she was.

as to social skills... this kid had more friends than we knew what to do with. everyone wanted to be her friend. my house was filled with kids all the time. she loved that she had a break from them all, while they were in school. and when she had a problem with another teen... she liked that she didn't have to see them at school everyday cause let's face it... teens can be very mean to each other!

yes, we created her homeschooling to 'fit' her... and she's thriving beautifully in her job, loving her life - lives on her own in an apartment - pays all her bills on time... and is about to become a great adult!

we unschool... which means we integrate learning into every moment we can. for example my son just came upstairs and asked me why the words "what, why and where" all have WH at the beginning and yet "was" doesn't? he is reading a book and noticed the difference. so we discussed how weird the english language is and started thinking of other 'weird' words. great learning moment!

we do very little sitting down and learning with our son who's 12. our daughter who's 7 looooves to sit and work out of books. so we provide that. we do a lot of book work with her.

we create the learning for the child... we allow them to lead us - cause trust me, kids want to learn. they love learning... you just need to be connected with them so you see the signs of what to teach next!

the only things we 'force' them to learn is how to read, how to write and basic math. anything else is lead by them.

parents who want their kids out of their hair, out of the house and prefer to spend little time with them shouldn't homeschool and trust me, homeschooling isn't for everyone (kids and parents alike). some kids really thrive in the school environment and others thrive in the homeschooling environment.

there are parents who love daycare and other parents who wouldn't even consider sending their kids to one. well... schools are kinda like daycare for older kids IMO.

all i really know here is my kids are doing great. they have friends, they join teams, classes (guitar, drumming, dance, art... etc)... they are really happy kids.

for me... i believe there is so much stress and responsibilites etc when you are an adult. you need to work to support yourself and possibly your own family... so why not take the first 17 years and play. have fun. sleep in, stay up late, play outside on nice days and if you want... do crafts all day long (that's our 7 year olds passion) - cause soon enough you will grow up and you'll be working - but if you can learn how to relax and play... IMO you'll make a way better adult!

^^^^ Aleesha....one of those Moms I envy! ;) :hug:

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Originally Posted by JLC

But I've known women who thrive on the 24/7 company of their children and absolutely love the chance to educate them at home. They do beautifully....and I envy them.

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https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../4/7/heart.gif ahhhh thanks judy. https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../4/7/heart.gif

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Originally Posted by jglass38

Exactly..Like the 70s...

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Certainly an era that terrified me ... but I still have some classic VHS's from back in the day that are MONEY! It's a paradox for sure. ;)

-adam

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Originally Posted by jglass38

Is math really necessary? I count on my fingers anyway... :)

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So do I!! And I do ust fine in algebra.