Probing 5 scales

What does the BP.Net membership think?

I have probed females 4-6 scales and males between 9-12 scales. 5 scales is just too low for males but maybe someone who deals with hundreds of boids can verify that.

I think that if it were me, I would pop it. ;) :P :sweeet:

But seriously ... how does it "feel"? ... even at one scale of depth you can tell ... males are "tight" and females are "wide" ... once you have a bunch under your belt, it gets pretty easy.

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

I think that if it were me, I would pop it. ;) :P :sweeet:

But seriously ... how does it "feel"? ... even at one scale of depth you can tell ... males are "tight" and females are "wide" ... once you have a bunch under your belt, it gets pretty easy.

-adam

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Adam on the grounds of me being a nice guy i will not comment on your descriptions on this post :eek: :eek: :8: :8: ."Feel" Tight" "Wide":8:

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Originally Posted by joepythons

Adam on the grounds of me being a nice guy i will not comment on your descriptions on this post

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Never stopped you before Joe! ;)

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

But seriously ... how does it "feel"? ... even at one scale of depth you can tell ... males are "tight" and females are "wide" ... once you have a bunch under your belt, it gets pretty easy.

-adam

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that is so going in the signature.

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

Never stopped you before Joe! ;)

-adam

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Well count this one as a early Christmas gift :D

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

I think that if it were me, I would pop it. ;) :P :sweeet:

But seriously ... how does it "feel"? ... even at one scale of depth you can tell ... males are "tight" and females are "wide" ... once you have a bunch under your belt, it gets pretty easy.

-adam

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This is pretty close to my Vets description of how he tells to. He says he can usually tell a male even before the probe stops.

Neil

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Originally Posted by aaajohnson

He says he can usually tell a male even before the probe stops.

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He sounds like a pro! ;)

-adam

I can see a lock down coming! :P

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

males are "tight" and females are "wide"
-adam

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GASP!!!! :eek: I also will not make any comments on this...but oh man its going to be tough :oops:

Well, with males it usually just slides right in really easy.

I don't even have to count the scales to know.

This one is tougher and just stops. It also appears female when popped.

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Originally Posted by SPJ

Well, with males it usually just slides right in really easy.

I don't even have to count the scales to know.

This one is tougher and just stops. It also appears female when popped.

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OK. That just doesn't look right.:eek:

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Originally Posted by SPJ

Well, with males it usually just slides right in really easy.

I don't even have to count the scales to know.

This one is tougher and just stops. It also appears female when popped.

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So what's the problem then? One scale?

-adam

It probes deeper than my other females. And when I mention it goes 5 scales, everyone has been telling me it's not a female and it's really a male. The doubt was planted in my mind and I wanted to see if I was right thinking female or if the "critics" were right saying male.

I'm acctually glad this thread came about. I took my newly acquired "female" to the vet and the vet I found around my area is part of ARAV, so i knew he had a lot of experience with reptiles. He is also a very active member of the local herp community, so i had confidence in going to see him.

He probed her pretty deep and said he was 80% sure it was a female. He said it could be a deep female or a very shallow male. She probed about 4-5 scales.

After reading this, i have a bit more confidence. I guess I won't know for sure till she drops some eggs :D

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Originally Posted by nathanledet

After reading this, i have a bit more confidence. I guess I won't know for sure till she drops some eggs :D

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I would say when you see them locked up unless you think your snakes might swing that way:D ;) , haha

~mike

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

I think that if it were me, I would pop it. ;) :P :sweeet:

But seriously ... how does it "feel"? ... even at one scale of depth you can tell ... males are "tight" and females are "wide" ... once you have a bunch under your belt, it gets pretty easy.

-adam

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Adam, I have a feeling you may be hanging around the wrong kinda females. :eek: :eek:

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Originally Posted by daaangconcepts

Adam, I have a feeling you may be hanging around the wrong kinda females. :eek: :eek:

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...or the wrong kind of males. :hokitty: :grouphug:

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Originally Posted by xdeus

...or the wrong kind of males. :hokitty: :grouphug:

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haha! True!!

Ahahah Adam, I can go soe far with this..lmao...but I promised i would be good.;) :P

stang you are a kid... you aren't allowed to comment on this *strong mom voice being used on you... AGAIN!*

as for adam... you are a really bad influence around here... influence me, influence me! :giggle:

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Originally Posted by recycling goddess

stang you are a kid... you aren't allowed to comment on this *strong mom voice being used on you... AGAIN!*

as for adam... you are a really bad influence around here... influence me, influence me! :giggle:

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Hey young lady you behave now:P .Stangs you behave also or i will slap you like a redheaded step child:fishslap: :fishslap: :groinkick .I know you both do not want me to open a can of whoop on you:8: :8: :8:

joe,

stop talking like that... we've discussed this before... i'll be the m and you can be the s LOL

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Originally Posted by recycling goddess

joe,

stop talking like that... we've discussed this before... i'll be the m and you can be the s LOL

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Lets gettr done :partyon: :hungry: :rofl: :rofl:

I voted female ,
as my first ball python (Ron) was probed to be a male at around 8 scales in.... a mate of mine also has a ball python which was probed to be female at 4 scales in and proved for definate she was female last year by laying a nice clutch of eggs :)

Steveo,


Those are standard numbers :D That is a given that they are male and female with those probe lengths.

As for the 5 scale probing, I have had that problem as well. I just pop, and in my experience, most have been female...

I have a male right now that probes 4 scales, and is producing sperm plugs though, so you really just have to pass the snake along to a couple people and have them pop and see what they say. :P

Good luck! I know how frustrating it can be with the sexing...

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

Steveo,


Those are standard numbers :D That is a given that they are male and female with those probe lengths.

As for the 5 scale probing, I have had that problem as well. I just pop, and in my experience, most have been female...

I have a male right now that probes 4 scales, and is producing sperm plugs though, so you really just have to pass the snake along to a couple people and have them pop and see what they say. :P

Good luck! I know how frustrating it can be with the sexing...

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Are you planning on using him to breed? I would not if it was me as i would think he would not have "enough" to get the job done.If you do infact use him in a breeding let me know how things turn out.No i am not some weirdo that wants to hear snakeys getting it done :D lol.Just for info purposes

A male that probes 4 scales?


Are you probing it with a telephone pole?:D :D :D

I have been probing for years, smarty pants ;)


AND I have had an aquaintance that had the same problem with his albino, probed 4 scales, and still bred fine, produced 3 clutches..

But, as for the snake in question, it is one of my TSE hets that was supposed to be a female.. It is most definately a MALE. I have no intention of breeding it at all..

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

But, as for the snake in question, it is one of my TSE hets that was supposed to be a female.. It is most definately a MALE. I have no intention of breeding it at all..

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Ouch. A TSE "het" that was also sexed wrong.
Sorry to hear that.

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

I have been probing for years, smarty pants ;)


AND I have had an aquaintance that had the same problem with his albino, probed 4 scales, and still bred fine, produced 3 clutches..

But, as for the snake in question, it is one of my TSE hets that was supposed to be a female.. It is most definately a MALE. I have no intention of breeding it at all..

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If this post was on any other site i would reply to this a totaly differant choice of words;) .Since it is here i will behave:salute: .I can tell you exactly what is wrong with that snake and why it probes the way it does.It came from Chris Johnson! If you were one of the lucky ones and were able to see the DL pic of Chris that we had on fauna( until we were ordered to delete it) add my comment to the comments made about Chris their.:8:

I am aware of the problem with Chris Johnson... Trust me.. I have suffered along with everyone else.


And I bought the snake, and it is for sure a female! :) So there you go!! Thanks Steve! She is beautiful.

what if its a hermaphrodite:confused::O