New Enclosure!

So i got a new enclosure for my snake. He seams to really like it! He was slightly....still at first, but once he started exploring, he was great. He has never had a substrate, or an underbelly heating thing, so i think he will really enjoy it!

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Amy check your humidity that lamp will dry up the enclosure quickly , his or her eye's show it.

Looks great!! As long as the humidity doesn't drop too low it should be fine.

i had that bedding in mine but recently changed to a chiped bark style and he likes it much better easier to clean and looks better too. i'll get the name of the stuff an d take a pic if ya want... i was gonna buy a peice of drift wood but after seeing soem of the prices...wow...i took a cardboard roll and cut a bunch of holes in it and he loves it only comes out to drink and than right back in..lol..


nice tank and snake..;)

oh...the second picture....here is the photoshopped version. i like it better. haha

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Only suggestion other than the humidity issue would be moving the centralized hide to one of either side, and then adding another hide to the other end.

-Jason

I just misted the tank, and put some suran (sp?) wrap over the top. I took the lamp off too. It is mostly for show anyways. That should help the humidity.

It looks great amy, but you need another hide and a temperature/humidity gauge in there to make sure things are perfect. His/her eye looks indented in one of the pics, which is a sign of low humidity.

There are really nice Acurite temperature/humidity guages at walmart for 10 bucks that work great :)

It looks great. The only thing that worries me is that I don't see two identical hides (one on each side). Other than that it looks good. :)

I have another hide i put in there.....I had to wash it first...
It does look like his eyes are indented in that pix, but in real life they dont look like that at all. The picture could be telling the truth, or it could be decieving....im not sure. I am putting a temp/humidity thing in there soon. i have to find it first:rolleyes:

I apologize for even having to ask, but...

Why are you getting another snake when this one isn't even set up properly?

In my honest opinion, you need to take some time and make your first snake's health and well-being your priority instead of getting another one. Your Ball Python looks very stressed because his environment isn't what it should be and the condition of his eyecaps shows that he hasn't been getting adequate care.

How are you measuring temperatures? Do you have a digital thermometer? For hides, I would suggest three small clay or plastic pot saucers. Just cut or knock a hole out of one side and they make wonderful hides.

Also, since it is nearing winter and getting cooler, that tank needs insulated from any temperature fluctuations. You can find 3/4" foam insulation board at Home Depot or Lowe's. Cut it to fit 3 sides and the bottom.

Do you have a thermostat for the heating pad or a dimmer for the lamp? If not, you are running a risk of burning your snake(and incurring expensive vet bills) since you aren't measuring the temperatures of the uncontrolled heating pad.

This was just some friendly advice, not meant in a condescending way at all. I just hope you take the advice and set your snake up with the proper environment BEFORE adding another snake to the picture. You may want to start reading Cassandra's Glass Tank Setup Sticky. It is very helpful in properly setting up a glass enclosure.

Just my :2cent:

I just put another hide in there, and the heating pad is alright.... his cage before was fine, or so i thought, and now that i have been on the forum, i've learned about humidity, and all that kind of stuff. When i got Ed, i was told, just keep him at room temp, as long as it is above 75....maybe put a lamp on there....clean the poop out, give him water, and if you feel like buying a hideunder, you can put that in there. Well, i have scince learned diffrently from you all (thanks for that btw), so his condition should improve dramatically pretty soon.
Thanks for the advice though!

Amy,the only question i have is what is that plastic thin in the left corner of the pics? I hope its not his water bowl,if it is he will tip that over very easily.I use ceramic like bowls for small hamsters about 4inches round for the young snakes.That would be what i recommend for that size of snake and the cage.

Yeah, thats what im using for a water bowl right now. He has never tiped it over, and he climbs all over it all the time. It's worked for a year, but sometime this weekend ill get one of the real ones...

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Originally Posted by Amy1217

I just put another hide in there, and the heating pad is alright.... his cage before was fine, or so i thought, and now that i have been on the forum, i've learned about humidity, and all that kind of stuff. When i got Ed, i was told, just keep him at room temp, as long as it is above 75....maybe put a lamp on there....clean the poop out, give him water, and if you feel like buying a hideunder, you can put that in there. Well, i have scince learned diffrently from you all (thanks for that btw), so his condition should improve dramatically pretty soon.
Thanks for the advice though!

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Whomever told you to keep him at room temps as long as its over 75 needs to be slapped! They also told you if you feel like you want to buy a hide you can? Ball pythons need to be kept at least 90ish temps on the hot side and they need places to hide point blank.I am not being rude to you here ,just mad at whomever told you this crap:mad:

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Originally Posted by joepythons

Whomever told you to keep him at room temps as long as its over 75 needs to be slapped! They also told you if you feel like you want to buy a hide you can? Ball pythons need to be kept at least 90ish temps on the hot side and they need places to hide point blank.I am not being rude to you here ,just mad at whomever told you this crap:mad:

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Thats the problem with alot of info even in todays knowledgeable day and age. Just be happy she found us!!!:D

~mike

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Originally Posted by Amy1217

I just put another hide in there, and the heating pad is alright.... his cage before was fine, or so i thought, and now that i have been on the forum, i've learned about humidity, and all that kind of stuff. When i got Ed, i was told, just keep him at room temp, as long as it is above 75....maybe put a lamp on there....clean the poop out, give him water, and if you feel like buying a hideunder, you can put that in there. Well, i have scince learned diffrently from you all (thanks for that btw), so his condition should improve dramatically pretty soon.
Thanks for the advice though!

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oOOPS i did not read your last couple of sentences:oops: .Yea stick with us here we will show you the correct ways:cool:

haha. yeah, it makes me angry that i got that info too....but he did have a snake that was like 3, and to me looked healthy (she might've been sick, but i didnt know anything about snakes at the time, so i couldn't really tell you)...
yeah, i'll stick with you guys...and im going shopping this weekend to get some more stuff. i love shopping and happy snakes! :)

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Originally Posted by SatanicIntention

I apologize for even having to ask, but...

Why are you getting another snake when this one isn't even set up properly?

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i dont even say where it says she is getting a new snake.. it says she got a new enclosure for her snake... i think possibly you misread that or im missing something .... ??

If you read in her other threads, she's planning on getting another snake this weekend at a reptile expo. I just politely advised her not to until she has this one set up properly.

Before I got my snakes, my brother bought one and we learned how to take care of it. We took it to the vet for a checkup and he said it looks good! When I told him I was planning on getting my own snake, he told me to wait 6 months before even considering another snake, to make sure the one we currently had did ok..... I couldn't wait that long so I finally got mine 2 months later:D . The point is, as long as you know what you are doing, then you will be fine.

Please post some pics when your tank is complete with the hides and such!
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This one is going great. I checked the temps today...humidity was at 54%, warm temp at 91 and cool temp was at 88.
I am getting the other tank set up because i am still planning on getting the other one. I have everything set up already, just have to make sure that the temperatures and humidity are right.

Thank you all for your help on making his enclosure how it should be!

Seems like it's doing alright, you just want to make sure the temperatures are stable and don't fluctuate. That cool side is a bit high and the warm side is still a bit cool. You want about a 10 degree difference between the sides. 92-94 warm side and 82-84 cool side. You can get it!

Thanks. Ill make sure that it gets fixed...

Scince i was told to keep the snake at room temperature, whenever i took him out he was slightly cold to the touch, and i took him out and he was warm!...i mean not hot, but actually not cool. Made me happy :D

Good luck with him...... you'll get everything down pat and be able to do it in your sleep in no time...we all had to start some where right?
Also since the plastic wrap is sooooo ugly and hard to manage you can buy duct tape...I used gorilla brand black duct tape...its nice and solid black....we put foil over the screen..reflective side down and then taped over it...leaving just enough for our ceramic heat element...which we still use on once tank and have no problem with his humidity...again trial and error....good luck again. :sunny:

good idea! thank you! i like the idea of the black tape too...right now, to regulate the humidity, i have the top, then wet wash clothes, then saran wrap. its working pretty well.

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Originally Posted by SatanicIntention

If you read in her other threads, she's planning on getting another snake this weekend at a reptile expo. I just politely advised her not to until she has this one set up properly.

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aahhh ok .. i didnt know you were talking about a different thread thats why i was confused... my bad !

Just so you're aware, wet wash cloth + warm environment = tons of bacteria and possibly mildew if the wash cloths are not changed out every day. Then, air is being filtered down through said wash cloth, bringing said bacteria with it into your snake's lungs. An infection could set itself up in there and you could end up with a very sick Ball Python.

A piece of plexiglas cut to fit inside the mesh lid rims, works very well and is a good insulator. The foil and duct tape I'm sure works fine too.

yup yup. i know. i deal with horses, and things get mildewey really quickly out in the heat (boots, towels, ropes etc). I know all about that. haha. I just put them on tonight, and im taking them off before i go to bed, ill put new ones on, and change 'em again tomarrow. not a big deal to change them out, im going to do the tinfoil thing tomarrow, so i dont have to keep washing towels. lol. i just dont have the time/energy to do it tonight.

okay, well it ends up i did have enough energy, i just finished lining the top with tinfoil, not the most attractive thing in the world, but, it is for the good of the snake, so who cares-lol

Nice! It's so great that a simple thing like a glass tank can be modified to make a great little home for a ball python. :)

Yeah...it is...now that i have the info to make it a great enclosure! Lol. anyways, thank you all for helping me out, my snake is a happy boy!

Btw, if you cover 3 sides of the glass tank, it'll help in making your snake feel more secure.