So I'm thinkin female pastel or male spider...

I know i said earlier i was going to be done buying snakes atleast until next year but I got a big commission check from my job for doing so good last month...

Just trying to decide between a female pastel (graziani) or a male spider..

anybody purchase one of these recently and from who? Pics would be cool as well as (+) or (-) about who you got it from....let me know...

Why not both both dom. Genes and you can produce bumblebees and super pastels down the road.

I was thinkin that and I could swing it but I want to go ahead and invest in a rack and a incubator...Since i'll need both...But that was what i wanted to do at first.

The way I did it was I got my caging setup ready to roll (hatchling, juvi, adult) with the right thermostats and whatnot, then started shopping for animals.

My strategy was that having the rack would give me an idea as far what I could accomodate and make the most with the space I had. Playing catch-up with your caging by buying your stock first can get really expensive in the long run. Proper caging is so important with ball pythons, its not something you want to skip out on.

Well what i was thinkin is instead of buying both snakes and not having the cage...buy one (spider-male) and the rack setup in one shot ... I was thinkin about building one but I like the idea of spending the extra money and getting a nice looking prebuilt setup...

I would go with the male spider! Since you already have breedable females, you will be able to produce spiders as soon as the male is ready. But if you get a female pastel you could have to wait 3 years for her to be breedable.

Whatever you gotta do...my simple advice to get your caging straight first before any snakes come home...I jumped around from glass to plastic cages to racks and spent a lot of money I could have saved to spend on more morphs! If I could do it all over again, I would have gotten my caging setup first (racks, tubs, thermostats, waterbowls, hides, etc etc etc) before I started buying snakes.

Having empty tubs also allows you to plan ahead as well as jump on spur of the moment deals, which you see to be good at finding!

That's what i was thinking...


and next year I should be hatching pastels so I'll end up with a female hopefully anyways... ya know?

Eventually bumble bees..I'm also talking to a reputable breeder (not saying who)about a het for pied male...

Wal-mart had all kinds of them! My girlfriend was like....I've never seen anyone gawk at rubbermaid tubs before in my life... I was like you don't understand lol...

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

Whatever you gotta do...my simple advice to get your caging straight first before any snakes come home...I jumped around from glass to plastic cages to racks and spent a lot of money I could have saved to spend on more morphs! If I could do it all over again, I would have gotten my caging setup first (racks, tubs, thermostats, waterbowls, hides, etc etc etc) before I started buying snakes.

Having empty tubs also allows you to plan ahead as well as jump on spur of the moment deals, which you see to be good at finding!

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But yeah, Definetly getting the rack setup. I will still have a couple glass tanks though just to kinda showcase my hottest animals...

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Originally Posted by djslurp1200

Wal-mart had all kinds of them! My girlfriend was like....I've never seen anyone gawk at rubbermaid tubs before in my life... I was like you don't understand lol...

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LOL.....my mom said the same thing to me the other day. than i proceded to explain to her my ideas for the next 3 hours...and all she could say is...."no more snakes till we buy a house." cause were renting right now and she dosen't want to upset the landlord. plus we might be moving back to the midwest.

Zinger

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Originally Posted by djslurp1200

I know i said earlier i was going to be done buying snakes atleast until next year but I got a big commission check from my job for doing so good last month...

Just trying to decide between a female pastel (graziani) or a male spider..

anybody purchase one of these recently and from who? Pics would be cool as well as (+) or (-) about who you got it from....let me know...

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I would buy from Adam. I knwo you dont like him...but still. Hes better than anyone off of Kingsnake....:carrot: Did you see some of his Bummble bees? You can go wrong with his spiders or pastels.

Adam has some quality animals...I've been looking at them for the last 30-45 mins. I almost just want to say f it, buy a rack and get a cinnie pastel...

You can't necessarily say that I don't like Adam. I just started a thread and things went differen'tly as intended. There was some name calling or what not, I said some things but its all said and done with. I've talked to adam since then and we are moving forward in a positive direction.

But yes, i have been looking at his inventory and he has some great animals.

Im glad its all settled. Look at some threads of peoples snakes that have came from Adam. You cant go wrong there!

well i was going to say the male spider and the rack, but those cinnies are looking pretty good, i think there are a few in our 4 sale section that are real nice.

yeah I really like them cinnies...I like all pastels though...graziani, enchi, lemon, super, cinnie...


It's just so hard to make a decision. You could have your heart set on one morph of ball python and then when it comes down to making a purchase you can't decide for real which one...ahhh

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Originally Posted by djslurp1200

yeah I really like them cinnies...I like all pastels though...graziani, enchi, lemon, super, cinnie...


It's just so hard to make a decision. You could have your heart set on one morph of ball python and then when it comes down to making a purchase you can't decide for real which one...ahhh

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that is a pain i do know that one. you just gotta go with your heart and feel it.

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Originally Posted by jcaustralia

you just gotta go with your heart and feel it.

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Are you talking about "feeling" balls? (pythons) :confuzd:

-adam

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Originally Posted by jcaustralia

that is a pain i do know that one. you just gotta go with your heart and feel it.

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Only problem is...going with my heart would be me maxing out my mastercard LoL

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Originally Posted by djslurp1200

Only problem is...going with my heart would be me maxing out my mastercard LoL

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lmao. you got a point there.

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

Are you talking about "feeling" balls? (pythons) :confuzd:

-adam

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I like to feel my balls (python)



Going with my heart would mean disobeying my parents...more like just disobeying my mom...lol.

I say max it out! You only live once!

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

Are you talking about "feeling" balls? (pythons) :confuzd:

-adam

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lol, if that is what it takes to decide, then hey i am all for it, lmao

a spider would be a good choice! here's my 8ball spider.



https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../9/spi06m2.JPG




vaughn

I would say sit down and think about where you wanna take your projects. Set some goals and purchase based upon what will help you reach your goals faster. Its definitely something you want to think about and set yourself up for the coming years. Just my two cents.

Edit: That is one sweet spider.

I read your sig you already have a male pastel I'd get the female spider just my 2cent's.

yEAH female spider would be a good purchase.... correct me if I'm wrong but I would get half spider's half bumble bee's? or half pastel and half spider?


I know there's been a million questions like this but...

Out of four egg's you would get one bumblebee.

Well I think it would be wise to go ahead and get the cages ready and then purchase when everything is in place ready to go. cages, heat source, water bowls...then go ahead with it. I love spiders though. They are one of my favorite morphs. THen all i would need is a super pastel in the mix to create some killerbees...that's a serious morph right there

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Originally Posted by djslurp1200

yEAH female spider would be a good purchase.... correct me if I'm wrong but I would get half spider's half bumble bee's? or half pastel and half spider?


I know there's been a million questions like this but...

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The odds "should be" ...

25% bees,
25% spiders,
25% pastels,
25% normals

But, for example in the clutch that produced these two ...

http://www.8ballpythons.com/uploads/bees.jpg

I got 2 bees, 1 spider, 2 pastels, and 1 normal out of six eggs. ;) :sweeet:

It's all in the odds!

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

The odds "should be" ...

25% bees,
25% spiders,
25% pastels,
25% normals

But, for example in the clutch that produced these two ...

http://www.8ballpythons.com/uploads/bees.jpg

I got 2 bees, 1 spider, 2 pastels, and 1 normal out of six eggs. ;) :sweeet:

It's all in the odds!

-adam

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uhh...yeah, I'll be right back I got to go to the bathroom and wash up. LoL

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

The odds "should be" ...

25% bees,
25% spiders,
25% pastels,
25% normals

But, for example in the clutch that produced these two ...

http://www.8ballpythons.com/uploads/bees.jpg

I got 2 bees, 1 spider, 2 pastels, and 1 normal out of six eggs. ;) :sweeet:

It's all in the odds!

-adam

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:headbang:

Now that's just sweet as can be - so which BP gods are you making offerings to again?

BEAUTIES!

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Originally Posted by Smulkin

:headbang:

Now that's just sweet as can be - so which BP gods are you making offerings to again?

BEAUTIES!

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The list is VERY long this year my friend ... stay tuned. ;)

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

The odds "should be" ...

25% bees,
25% spiders,
25% pastels,
25% normals

But, for example in the clutch that produced these two ...

http://www.8ballpythons.com/uploads/bees.jpg

I got 2 bees, 1 spider, 2 pastels, and 1 normal out of six eggs. ;) :sweeet:

It's all in the odds!

-adam

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adam I will pay shipping if you send them an albino and a pied down this way for a little bit so i can be in aww and then I will send them back too you...lol.

You have some KILLER bees (no pun intended). We need more close-up pictures!!

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Originally Posted by Emilio

I read your sig you already have a male pastel I'd get the female spider just my 2cent's.

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That is the way I would go ....

Neil