Yellow Bellies?

I understand its a co-dom trait but I don't understand the importance of the yb. I hear it makes many "normal" parents babies come out extrodinary. So does anyone have pics of any balls produced by yb?

Also, is Ivory only the result of yb x yb or can they be made differnt ways.

Just curious

There is alot of possible combo's with yellow belly's I'm definitly going to get one in the future. Have you seen the pastel yellowbelly? Also Ivory's are beaut's and yes ivory's are only produced by YB's.

Heres a ball that was produced by breeding yellow bellies together. :) https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...maleivory7.JPG

Very nice Ed!!! Yb's are also nice lookin in their own right.

i love your pics but don't like the red background... but then.... it is YOUR trademark! gorgeous snake!

Aleesha, Red sheet is no longer a trade mark.The folks on this site have spoken and do not like the red back ground. pic.is about a month old, when the red sheet was in vogue (in my twisted mind anyway). :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Pork Chops N' Corn Bread

I understand its a co-dom trait but I don't understand the importance of the yb. I hear it makes many "normal" parents babies come out extrodinary. So does anyone have pics of any balls produced by yb?

Also, is Ivory only the result of yb x yb or can they be made differnt ways.

Just curious

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think of the yb as a pastel. co-dom. ybxyb = 25% chance of an ivory. same applies with mojaves,pastels,fireballs etc:)

So a yellow belly x normal would be 1/2 each correct. You would think a yellow belly male would be a great way to get into morphs. I'm just curious if anyone has produced any babies from yb x normal and has pics

Those Ivories are really cool; are they somehow related to the "Pearl" morph? Those look like the Ivory, with a little more dark marking.

The Pearls are a Super Woma, as far as I know, the have been no Pearls that survived due to a problem with the gene, I think its referred to as "homozygous lethal",I could be wrong on that.... but the crosses seem to be doing ok, the Pearl Lesser's are damn sweet ;)

What exactly are the genetics of a yellow belly?

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Originally Posted by Pork Chops N' Corn Bread

So a yellow belly x normal would be 1/2 each correct. You would think a yellow belly male would be a great way to get into morphs. I'm just curious if anyone has produced any babies from yb x normal and has pics

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half will be yb and half norm.
ybs are codom as they are visual heterozygous(the yellow belly) a yb x yb will give you a 25% chance of producing an ivory

Is the yellowbelly the single co-dom or the double co-dom (super) version of the yellow belly gene?

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Originally Posted by mocolo

Is the yellowbelly the single co-dom or the double co-dom (super) version of the yellow belly gene?

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yellowbelly is the heterozygous version of the ivory. ivory is dominant yb is co-dom

lol, I am still confused..

Are you saying that the super version of the gene is ivory, while the co-dom version of the gene is yellowbelly? So, if you have 2 snakes which are yellowbelly (the ivory gene, and a normal gene), and if you breed them together, and luckily get an offspring with both ivory genes from the parents, then you have an ivory? So the ivory is the "super" form of the yellowbelly?

Or do I have this all wrong, and the co-dom gene of yellowbelly turns into the dominant gene of ivory? So tell me if I have this right, lol, I'm trying to learn genetics. If the BP has one gene of the co-dom gene, and its other gene is normal, it will look a certain way, but if it has both genes of the co-dom gene, then it will look as the "super" form of the co-dom gene..correct?

And for dominant, the homozygous and the heterozygous forms look the same..correct?

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Originally Posted by mocolo

lol, I am still confused..

Are you saying that the super version of the gene is ivory, while the co-dom version of the gene is yellowbelly? So, if you have 2 snakes which are yellowbelly (the ivory gene, and a normal gene), and if you breed them together, and luckily get an offspring with both ivory genes from the parents, then you have an ivory? So the ivory is the "super" form of the yellowbelly?

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YES!

"the ivory is the "super" form = homozygous form of the yellowbelly gene?"

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Originally Posted by mocolo

lol, I am still confused..

Are you saying that the super version of the gene is ivory, while the co-dom version of the gene is yellowbelly? So, if you have 2 snakes which are yellowbelly (the ivory gene, and a normal gene), and if you breed them together, and luckily get an offspring with both ivory genes from the parents, then you have an ivory? So the ivory is the "super" form of the yellowbelly?

Or do I have this all wrong, and the co-dom gene of yellowbelly turns into the dominant gene of ivory? So tell me if I have this right, lol, I'm trying to learn genetics. If the BP has one gene of the co-dom gene, and its other gene is normal, it will look a certain way, but if it has both genes of the co-dom gene, then it will look as the "super" form of the co-dom gene..correct?

And for dominant, the homozygous and the heterozygous forms look the same..correct?

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lets make this easier and start calling the dominant form a super yellow belly(ivory). breeding a super yb to a normal will produce all ybs same thing as a pastel.

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Originally Posted by Emilio

Have you seen the pastel yellowbelly?

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For those who love pics, here is a pic of my Pastel Yellowbelly male.

http://www.baileyreptiles.com/pics/pjyb.jpg

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Originally Posted by muddoc

For those who love pics, here is a pic of my Pastel Yellowbelly male.

http://www.baileyreptiles.com/pics/pjyb.jpg

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Show off! IMOP there are very few YBs that catch my eye. They really really spice up other morphs!!

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Originally Posted by muddoc

here is a pic of my Pastel Yellowbelly male.

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Very nice Tim...so crisp n clean!!! Thanks for shaing :gj:

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Originally Posted by muddoc

For those who love pics, here is a pic of my Pastel Yellowbelly male.

http://www.baileyreptiles.com/pics/pjyb.jpg

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WOW is all I can say!!!

Sorry stang but in my opinion YB's are stunner's too. And Tim your Yb pastel is rocking man!!!

Yes, but very few.;)

We know now that yellow bellies produce ivories but are there any other morphs in combination with these animals..?

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Originally Posted by MATTI

We know now that yellow bellies produce ivories but are there any other morphs in combination with these animals..?

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a genetic granite paired with a yb will produce ebonys:)

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Originally Posted by uro1001

a genetic granite paired with a yb will produce ebonys:)

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Actually, that's not entirely correct. There have been several genetic granite lines that have been bred with yellow bellies and no ebonies were produced. It seems that the granite has to be "special". ;)

-adam

Could someone share a pic of a ebony.

Adam, I understand what you mean when you say that a granite x yellow belly will not produce the ebony ball. quite a few sellers have been saying that granites bred to yellow bellies will produce ebonys, and most of them have been selling imported granites. the ball that was bred to the yellow belly that produced the ebony, was a kinda, sorta granite looking ball. one of those special ones that pops up now and then that produces something very special. I would not stop breeding those imported granites, who knows you might be the next person to produce something that has never been seen before. and alot of the new morphs are coming from normal looking imports? :) https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...llyyellow2.JPG

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Originally Posted by MATTI

We know now that yellow bellies produce ivories but are there any other morphs in combination with these animals..?

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Yellow bellies are also involved in the production of Super Stripes/ Cyclones. ;)

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Originally Posted by ECLARK

Adam, I understand what you mean when you say that a granite x yellow belly will not produce the ebony ball.

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Actually, that's not what I said at all.

Just pointed out that there are genetically reproducible lines of granties that have been bred to yellow bellies and not produced ebonies and there are genetically reproducible lines of granites that have produced ebonies when bred to yellow bellies ... I guess I was taking the detailed way around the statement "be careful, not all granites are created equal". ;)

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

"be careful, not all granites are created equal".

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Could say that with just about any snake :).

Okay, I was completely unaware that some genetic lines didn't produce ebonies. Fairly certain RDR's granites are and obviously Amir's granites are, but I'm not quite sure if he's using his own line.