hets..

I was thinking about after (hopefully) hatching some eggs this or next year getting a pair of hets, male and female. Which pair would be a less expensive purchase...

Het for albino or het for pied........100%

I say less expensive but i absolutely adore both..
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How much would you estimate for the pair?

The albinos should definately be cheaper. Het pied pairs are about twice as much as het albino ones. I don't know about next years prices, but you can get them now for 5 or 6 hundred a pair. Personally, I would go for the pieds anyway.

What about the prices going now? pieds, albinos.... I'd like to go with 100% hets for pied or albino for the best possible results without shelling out the cash for a pair of true albino's and pied's.

500-600 for a pair of albino het 100%?

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Originally Posted by djslurp1200

500-600 for a pair of albino het 100%?

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Yup. I haven't really been looking at many het ads recently, but I'd guess that het pieds would be around $1400. I seen several ads for het albinos earlier this year for $600 a pair, and a few for $1,000 a trio.

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Originally Posted by djslurp1200

500-600 for a pair of albino het 100%?

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Please tell me where I can get this deal...! Here a female 100% het is about 1,000 eruo.

I'd charge 'em on my card right now.....

I purchased a 100% het albino pair last year, each one came from different breeders and bloodlines. The total cost was right around $600 with shipping which was the best deal I could find at the time. This year it seems pretty easy to find a pair for $500-$600.

Well shoot, I guess I'm gonna jump on 'em then... Might as well start saving for the orlando show then in november...

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Originally Posted by titus

Please tell me where I can get this deal...! Here a female 100% het is about 1,000 eruo.

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Not sure if any of them ship internationally, but pretty much every ad I looked at had them for under $600 a pair.

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=441789

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=448511

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=435979

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=449889

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=447705

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Originally Posted by titus

Please tell me where I can get this deal...! Here a female 100% het is about 1,000 eruo.

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You can find 100% het albinos for $500 and some under that price at www.kingsnake.com.

Buying hets on kingsnake is like gambling in vegas.......just my .02

Look around the banners on this site if you want hets....

at the NARBC in Chicago, pairs were between $450 and $800.


~mike

are the striped ball's het? what about the spiders?
I'm just looking for a more inexpensive way to produce solid morphs without buying the true morphs them selves. Want to start with hets...

There are still some decent sellers on Kingsnake. I tend to look around on the BOI first anywhere I go.

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

Buying hets on kingsnake is like gambling in vegas.......just my .02

Look around the banners on this site if you want hets....

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Agreed! If you want hets, I'd check the big well know breeders first!!

"coughs" Adam;) "coughs"

These guys ship internationally , it would probly work outmore expensive thou
http://www.ukpythons.com/pytexpect.html

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Originally Posted by djslurp1200

are the striped ball's het? what about the spiders?
I'm just looking for a more inexpensive way to produce solid morphs without buying the true morphs them selves. Want to start with hets...

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That's a fine way to go about it. Lots of folks do. Just take some time to educate yourself on the various morph types and the markets for them. The more you understand and know, the less likely it is someone will rip you off.

Yes, you can get hets for genetic stripe. No, you can't get hets for spider. These are things you need to read up on...a lot....to really succeed in finding the right animals for you.

I'm sure someone has bet me too it but....

Spiders are a Dominate morph...they either are spiders or they're normals...no spider hets!

sorry did i break TOS posting that? if so i'll delete it :oops:

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Originally Posted by Entropy

There are still some decent sellers on Kingsnake. I tend to look around on the BOI first anywhere I go.

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TSE was the #1 Rated Trader on the BOI up until about a year ago. We all know how THAT ended. People are still coming out of the woodwork with 100% "hets" that have never proved out.

In other words....the BOI doesn't mean squat.

I've seen het albino pairs on www.kingsnake.com for as low as $350 but I would be concerned about buying them for that price. You are looking at $1000-1400 for a pair of het pieds like everyone else already said.

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Originally Posted by Pork Chops N' Corn Bread

I've seen het albino pairs on www.kingsnake.com for as low as $350 but I would be concerned about buying them for that price.

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LOL ... were they right next to the ad where you could buy 100% het pieds and pay half now, half when you prove them out? ... :rofl:

-adam

I saw that ad as well. Definitely a nice little scheme there....

Hey Adam is that the deal your were going to give me on those female het pieds. LOL

JOKE people

I was also looking for a pair of 100% het albinos and found around $500-600 on average but up to $900 on one ad. Het pieds were between $1000-2200 for 06 unrelated het pieds. But, what you could do(like me) is find a large het female and buy a small male and build it up by next season.

Thank you everybody...for the information.

Yeah I'm definetly trying to figure out as much as I can. I think I may have to wait though. I might be buying a trio of balls this weekend.

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Originally Posted by djslurp1200

are the striped ball's het? what about the spiders?
I'm just looking for a more inexpensive way to produce solid morphs without buying the true morphs them selves. Want to start with hets...

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Genetic stripe? Yes. Spider ?No.


Spiders are a dominate gene. So no hets are produced.


You may want to study up alittle more before jumping into breeding. :2cent:

well, I figured that out earlier today. I actually saw on a site the other day which are dom, het and what not. I just couldn't remember and i'm at work bored...Figure while theres nothing going on I'll try to keep drilling info into my brain lol...

Well the attitude of TSE when I once inquired about one of their snakes was enough to put me off. TSE also had banners on quite a few sites so in that case I guess the person who said 'go with the banner breeders' would be wrong as well.
No matter who it is it's always 'Buyer Beware'. You can only do so much homework on a breeder.
The BOI isn't perfect

I'm going to check into this trio I may be buying if the guy is right. 2 females, 1male all adult proven breeders....$400 can't beat it if its for real....what he says it is..

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I guess the person who said 'go with the banner breeders' would be wrong as well.

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I wouldn't say I was wrong. I actually said:

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Look around the banners on this site if you want hets....

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We've got some of the best in the business supporting this site.

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Originally Posted by stangs13

Genetic stripe? Yes. Spider ?No.


Spiders are a dominate gene. So no hets are produced.


You may want to study up alittle more before jumping into breeding. :2cent:

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Actually most spiders are het. When you breed a het spider to a het spider (keep in mind they all look like spiders) you get some het spiders and possibly a homozygous spider. If you breed a homozygous to a normal, you get all het spiders.

Every single dominant, co dom, simple recessive, double recessive, etc has hets

Technically you are right. The problem is when most people hear "het" they think a normal looking animal carrying one allele of a recessive gene. Its confusing to some people when animals carrying co-dominant or dominant genes are referred to as heterozygous carriers.

Brad, I'm not meaning to be argumentative. I'm just trying to say that no matter who it is the buyer should still do their homework, can we agree on that? :)

I don't mean to either......just wanted to clear that up...:)

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Originally Posted by bpkid

Actually most spiders are het. When you breed a het spider to a het spider (keep in mind they all look like spiders) you get some het spiders and possibly a homozygous spider. If you breed a homozygous to a normal, you get all het spiders.

Every single dominant, co dom, simple recessive, double recessive, etc has hets

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You right!! But listen young grass hopper.


I was just trying to keep it simple. Thats how I roll. ;)

Yeah, but you don't want to make him confused when he comes across this info down the road do ya?Might as well tell him like it is now...

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Originally Posted by bpkid

Yeah, but you don't want to make him confused when he comes across this info down the road do ya?Might as well tell him like it is now...

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If i didnt know any better I would have gotten confused when you posted your second post...lol!!

Speaking of hets there seems to be a rather suprising ad on KS by a rather large breeder. Pied fans anyone?

Link??

It's easy enough to find if you use the search function in the classifieds.

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Originally Posted by Entropy

It's easy enough to find if you use the search function in the classifieds.

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Yea thats a deal:rolleyes: .The snakes are from Carolina Reptile exchange :mad: .Too bad people can not post a warning on kingsnake about that ad.

I saw that ad but I was referring to the Alan Bosch ad, I don't believe his are from CRE...

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Originally Posted by Entropy

I saw that ad but I was referring to the Alan Bosch ad, I don't believe his are from CRE...

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OK i saw that ad first and thought it was the one lol.The ad i caught even states he will back the genetics.In his pastel ad he says he has never had a "bad dealing" or something like that.I wonder if he is even aware of the problem with CRE? Well off to look at Alans ad:D

Yeah, I saw that ad with the CREs and just felt sorry for the seller.

Alans ad makes me wish I didn't have rent this month :(

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Originally Posted by Entropy

Yeah, I saw that ad with the CREs and just felt sorry for the seller.

Alans ad makes me wish I didn't have rent this month :(

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If i had the cash i would have a pair of Alans het pieds on the way;) .His price is only $200 less then my freind who has some also.

Yeah, it's a really good price. Some people are going to have christmas come early!

Also, I noticed your sig line says you have a het for lava corn. I just recently saw a lava and have to say they are a striking morph.

i've seen albino het pairs go for under 500

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Originally Posted by Entropy

Yeah, it's a really good price. Some people are going to have christmas come early!

Also, I noticed your sig line says you have a het for lava corn. I just recently saw a lava and have to say they are a striking morph.

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Yea the trio i have will also produce the ICE corn morph :cool: .I have a pic of the parents if you have not seen the ICE corns.Let me know