Knowing what you now know about MKR, would you purchase from them?

Why not post a new poll so the people can be heard!

No. plain and simple.

Moved this to the Inquiries Forum...

NO! Anyone that wishes to dominate a market inorder to keep the little guy down is slim in my book. That includes Wally-world and Microsoft.

just my two cents

A private poll would have been more accurate...

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Originally Posted by sho220

A private poll would have been more accurate...

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Why? We aren't voting whether we support the mafia or not.

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

NO! Anyone that wishes to dominate a market inorder to keep the little guy down is slim in my book. That includes Wally-world and Microsoft.

just my two cents

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And they're slime too!!! :D

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And they're slime too!!! :D

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Anyone who has seen their infomercial knows they are far from slim.

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A private poll would have been more accurate...

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Why? Shouldn't people who support them be proud of their breeder of choice?

Once again i voted NO

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And they're slime too!!! :D

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And there that too

I use the bird finger on my left hand to much so a lot of my post are missing there "e"'s

LOL thanks for the catch

I voted No ..... but I would LOVE to vote with a HELL :cens0r: NO :colbert:

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And they're slime too!!! :D

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speaking of slime...is sneezed today and my snot tried to sell me a booger

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Why? We aren't voting whether we support the mafia or not.

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Because if someone votes yes they're gonna get pummeled on here...to get a true and honest vote, it would have to be anonymous...

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speaking of slime...is sneezed today and my snot tried to sell me a booger

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LMAO ... glad I wasn't around to see this. Did you buy it??? :blownose:

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Because if someone votes yes they're gonna get pummeled on here...to get a true and honest vote, it would have to be anonymous...

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As well they should...

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Why? Shouldn't people who support them be proud of their breeder of choice?

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You're missing the point...

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You're missing the point...

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No, not really - if you (generalized you) have to question if you'd support them publically, you'd have to question why you'd want to do business with them, wouldn't you?

There are quite a few vocal supporters here too that I'm sure will vote in the positive column.

Edit - More that I think about it, I do see your point though Sho, for the purposes of the poll.

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I voted No ..... but I would LOVE to vote with a HELL :cens0r: NO :colbert:

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Miss Mandy you go to your room with your potty mouth:eek: .Nate when she behaves herself she can come out to play :8: :8: :8:

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Miss Mandy you go to your room with your potty mouth:eek: .Nate when she behaves herself she can come out to play :8: :8: :8:

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Mmmm nope! Unless Nate is already in there :blowkiss:

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speaking of slime...is sneezed today and my snot tried to sell me a booger

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Nate,you are also grounded for grossing me out :puke: :puke: :rofl:

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Miss Mandy you go to your room with your potty mouth:eek: .Nate when she behaves herself she can come out to play :8: :8: :8:

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does somebody need a spanking? :colbert:

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does somebody need a spanking? :colbert:

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Oooo ooo pick me! Pick me! :yes:

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Mmmm nope! Unless Nate is already in there :blowkiss:

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Hey you changed your response:mad: .Nope you are in one room Nate is in another:P

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Did you buy it??? :blownose:

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i sure did! i got a great deal! $2.99 DOWN! 2.99 A MONTH FOR 4 MONTHS! it's unbelievable!

oh and 0% interest

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does somebody need a spanking? :colbert:

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O my way to much info :eek:

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Oooo ooo pick me! Pick me! :yes:

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Umm...Yes please...

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i sure did! i got a great deal! $2.99 DOWN! 2.99 A MONTH FOR 4 MONTHS! it's unbelievable!

oh and 0% interest

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OMG! I HAVE TO HAVE THAT!!!!! THERE IS NO OTHER WAY!

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OMG! I HAVE TO HAVE THAT!!!!! THERE IS NO OTHER WAY!

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You need special help :P :rolleye2:

Hmmm I am special help.

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A private poll would have been more accurate...

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The results are only shown once the user votes... and you can't tell which way anyone voted.... unless they vote, and then reply saying.. "I voted 'Yes' because I really dig 'em" or something lame like that..... if you don't reply, and just vote, it IS private... is it not?

hey ken, is that 1 you? lol.


just click on the number in the poll!



vaughn

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hey ken, is that 1 you? lol.


just click on the number in the poll!



vaughn

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It's me...

I am done with repeatig myself over and over again....

LOL.....this has to be the most bias poll that I have ever seen....why not just posted an "I hate MKRs thread".....the poll should have said "Vote yes and join the group" or "Vote no and we will all badmouth you"...Do you all really want people to think that this site is full of people that like to cast out people that disagree with them? In the last two weeks, this site has become overrun with threads concerning the same topic and some members love to keep them plastered on the bp.net homepage by constantly posting garbage in them.....thats a great look to present to guests looking for basic ball python information isn't it?...or should we just post a banner that reads "Disagree with us and we will call you names"? MKRs recieves alot of publicity from these threads too...any new person coming to this site instantly finds out about MKRs and their cheap snakes...do any of you really think all people care for the future of the reptile industry if they are just looking for a cool pet?

Why not post something with no bias? Use private votes, and make the question "Would you do business with MKRs?" with a simple "Yes" or "No" answers. That way when people are looking to buy from MKRs will have an unbias presentation of the number of people that DO NOT LIKE that business instead of a bunch of people just rambling on about how they dislike them.

Someone famous had said that "If 2 million people hate me and 500,000 people love me, screw the people that hate me and I want to party with the 500,000 that love me". MKRs sales approach is very similar. Why do they need to make everyone happy when the few people that they make happy with their lowballed prices support their business and line their pockets with money? If you are not supporting their business, they could care less about you and they will continue to make money without you. It is not a stupid business tactic....but one that is used all the time. Do they care that people talk bad about them?....just as much as a cigar company cares when it pays for commercials that talk about how cigarettes are bad. They could care less how many people get hurt and the bad things that are said about them as long as they have a following that supports their business.

I would actually like to hear an educated reason why someone gives their business to MKRs. The people that have presented reasons show alot of defensiveness (or offensiveness) in their original posts and rarely give any GOOD reason....or they are part of the MKRs crowd trying to draw attention to themselves. And it really does not help when Joe Capone can't even string an sentence together properly in order to sway people to his reasoning for the low pricing (ever notice people that talk to him on the phone seem to like him and always suggest calling him?...damn car salesmen).

MKRs and everyone else that contributes to the arguements (including myself) should be ashamed of the way that they have conducted themselves at times. The reptile community should be represented as a group of people that band together to show people that reptiles are great animals....instead we are depicted as a bunch of bickering fools to people looking in.

.....It is sad to me that one companies actions can bring such hostility into the reptile community.....very very sad.


Oh...

If the question were "Would you do business with MKRs?"....my answer would be "NO". I hate the way that MKRs is doing business and the methods they are using to sell animals.....

This post was not directed at you Jamie.....I am just getting tired of reading about MKRs day in and day out.

i knew it was you shaun, i was just joking with ken! lol


no problems with me, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.


vaughn

Oh... isn't that special... Okay... so it's not so private after all... :) <sheepish grin>

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This post was not directed at you Jamie.....I am also getting tired of reading about MKRs day in and day out.

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Then I won't take offense to it! :D

I am getting tired of it too. Maybe they will close shop and go do something else with their pathetic lives. Then they would NEVER be brought up again.

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Then I won't take offense to it! :D

I am getting tired of it too. Maybe they will close shop and go do something else with their pathetic lives. Then they would NEVER be brought up again.

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would you really want some other breeder saying that to you because of certain business practices?

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would you really want some other breeder saying that to you because of certain business practices?

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You know what? Regardless of MKR and your support of them, you are a fool. There are no two ways around it. If you practice bad business then you deserve to be called out on it. I don't have any bad business practices. I treat every customer and all my friends like gold(and you can ask those who have purchased from me). Keep drinkin that Kool-Aid though..It tastes good!! :salute:

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You know what? Regardless of MKR and your support of them, you are a fool. There are no two ways around it. If you practice bad business then you deserve to be called out on it. I don't have any bad business practices. I treat every customer and all my friends like gold(and you can ask those who have purchased from me). Keep drinkin that Kool-Aid though..It tastes good!! :salute:

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ok. Then I guess I'm a fool...

Good day

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ok. Then I guess I'm a fool...

Good day

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Admitting it is the first step to fixing the problem...I commend you!

LOL I knew you were going to say something smart...

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Someone famous had said that "If 2 million people hate me and 500,000 people love me, screw the people that hate me and I want to party with the 500,000 that love me". MKRs sales approach is very similar.

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I don't even know if this translates into a reptile business or not - but I found this interesting in a recent Town Hall Meeting at my company.

Companies with the highest net promoter scores in their industry grow 2.6 times faster than their competition.

Net promoters are those who will on a scale of 1-10 answer as a 9 or 10 on the question: How likely are you to recommend ABC to a friend? Net Detractors answer as 6 or below. Passives are 7-8 score.

So, in the example of a sample for our company, out of 119 people who did the survey:

# of promoters - 19 - # of detractors - 17 = 4 Net Promoters

# surveyed - 119, Net promoter score was 3.4%.

I wonder if a sample was done like that for MKR, what their net promoter score would be and if it would translate down the road for them?

Just thinking out loud.

I bet MKR is loving all this publicity.

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LOL I knew you were going to say something smart...

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I pee on the fire in hopes I can put it out......but I'm so damn drunk, I'm peeing straight liquor...therefore the fire only gets bigger...and eventually weenies get roasted.

Great post daniel...it really made me think how silly all this is. I guess a lot of people are in the same train of thought as me...."the more negative that's out there, the more people be educated on how they really are".....

If i started doing research on an unknown seller and came accross 3 HUGE threads (one here, 2 at fauna) about how MKR sh**s on everyone, then I would not do business with them. If i came accross an inquiry forum where one or 2 things were negative, I would take it into consideration, but if the majority of feedback was positive, then I would most likely do business with them.

Those involved with MKR have a negative reptutaion all accross these boards as well as Fauna. And it's not because "a small group of people like to bad mouth them" either...it's a big headed moron that likes to badmouth everyone else and thinks he's the god of the ball python world. Noone likes to do business with that (unless of course, you're uneducated in the situation)

As far as me and MKR...everyone knows I despise them. Everyone knows I read the threads where he makes a fool of himself, everyone knows I've seen the video of him making a fool of himself. Everyone knows where I've formed my opinion. I think it's safe to say that I know where everyone else has formed their opinion too. I will not do business with MKR...and that's that. If anyone asks me, face to face, "will you do business with them"....my response will be "no..Never", would I recommend them? no...never...

Those are my thoughts. and those are my thoughts branded into this board forever. if anyone runs a search on "MKR", they will read my thoughts...that's all I can ask for.

With that said, I think it's pretty much safe to say that I will use water instead of pee to put out the fire from now on. I'll leave theses threads alone and be another one of the hundreds of spectators...However, If I am personally called out by one of MKR's many alias', I will respond if defense is necessary.

I will more than likely get 900 million flames for this but whos cares right.

I don't see the point in having to defend your choice in this post. If you wish to express your reason as to why you voted the way you did then fine. But commenting on other peoples posts for their reason is counter productive. There are 2 MKR threads that I have read in the last two days that would be better suited for the back and forth stuff about MKR. The poll is on wether or not you would buy from them knowing what we know. Stick to that and maybe we'll get a more accurate vote.

Just my 2cents

NOPE, they will NEVER get a penny from me!
I'd rather spend the extra money and get myself a well bred, nice, top quality animal from someone on here or from someone like NERD, Adam, etc!

They DO NOT appreciate any of their animals and it is very obvious that they are only in the business for the money. Yeah they may seem like they have good customer service, but.... that only goes to an extent for me while I'm looking to buy something from someone, anyone matter of fact!

I dont agree in setting people up! it is wrong in all ways that is wrong!

and if I get flamed on here for my vote then so be it! But for you all to sit back and set people up and then bash them for there vote because of the fact that they happen to be satesfied (sp?) with there animals and expearence with MKR then some of the people here are sad puppies that need mental help.

Or to set people up to lie on there vote to get out of being bashed on and flamed is just as wrong. I do not believe any more on walking on egg shells around some of you.
but i guess that some feel that they have to now because of your relentless public bashing and flaming and setups like this one right here.

IMO though.

Jessie I don't think this thread was started as a "you'll get bashed if you vote yes!" kind of thread...i think this thread was started with the intentions of getting a point accross.