Fed ex shipping

I just got off the phone with fedex and I was told they only verify people to ship reptiles from business to business. We cannot ship to residental addresses. You sign a legal liability waiver and it states they only can be shipped to business. The fedex live animal rep told me if we are caught shipping to residental addresses are account will be cancelled. Anyone else run into this? So everyone that says they are fed ex verified to ship live reptiles are actually not supposed to ship to residental addresses only businesses.


David

This is interesting I hope you are wrong lol. Doesn't make any sense due to the fact just about everyone (75%?) on this forum has recieved snake through the mail that was delivered directly to there residential address.

Never heard that before. Have you thought to ask them about it being a home based business? A lot of people run a business straight from their home...i'd use that as a way.

Another thing you can do is ship to the customer and have FedEx hold the package for the customer. The customer will have to come pick it up from the fedex facility. That's a nice way to do it too cuz then you don't have to worry about your animal riding in a truck till it arrives..ya know?

I asked and got the same answer the fed ex animal desk is 18004059052 I even called my local sales person and she talked to the legal department and they all said the same thing we cannot ship to residental addresses. Only businesses. So this is a really big bummer.

David

People ship reptiles all the time to homes. I am not a true buisness. When Adam shipped my snake he put **** reptiles on the box. Hope it helps some...

Yes...only shipping from business to business is part of the agreement.....I ship to home based businesses all the time :)

Wow, I did not know this... do they do anything with the package if they find out it is not going to a business?

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Originally Posted by Rapture

Wow, I did not know this... do they do anything with the package if they find out it is not going to a business?

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I dought it. Not to metion how many snakes are shipped every day ? They all make it home one way or another.

I guess I'm not worried. I have never had a problem recieving snake ever or shipping them. I am now just getting certified to ship.

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Originally Posted by tropheusfreak

I guess I'm not worried. I have never had a problem recieving snake ever or shipping them. I am now just getting certified to ship.

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How send you ship any reptiles without the certification?

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Originally Posted by Kilo

How send you ship any reptiles without the certification?

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Overnighting cookies to your gramma...she needs them ASAP because they need to be super fresh.........

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Originally Posted by Kilo

How send you ship any reptiles without the certification?

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You shouldn't ship reptiles without approval of the shipping company.

People that ship without certification put the shipping freedom of certified shippers at risk everytime they send something.

Companies have stopped allowing reptile shipments before because people were shipping without regards for the guidelines and I would not be surprised if it happened again since people seem to disregard the rules so frequently.

I agree with you Daniel. It was over a year ago that I had to use that "cookie" excuse....I did not have the time to get certified. Now i'm back in the game and plan on getting certified before making any more shipments.

you also need to be specific on what type of animals you are shipping, if all your are saying is reptiles in general, they are most likly going to decline you, bacause they do not want to put their employees at risk by dealing with venomous, or deadly large snakes. ups is the same way they will only allow you to ship lizards.

by telling them "harmless reptiles"....will that be enough?

or do I need to be more specific by saying "baby ball pythons"

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Originally Posted by jcaustralia

you also need to be specific on what type of animals you are shipping, if all your are saying is reptiles in general, they are most likly going to decline you, bacause they do not want to put their employees at risk by dealing with venomous, or deadly large snakes. ups is the same way they will only allow you to ship lizards.

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It is a FEDERAL violation to ship animals without labeling the shipping package. If you are caught, you will end up with a FELONY on your criminal record and most likely you will get jail time..a few years of it.

The standard shipping companys do not allow venomous shipments and as far as I know Delta Dash is the only company that allows it.

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Originally Posted by Rapture

Wow, I did not know this... do they do anything with the package if they find out it is not going to a business?

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Not that I know of... for THAT reason... but if you're not certified to ship reptiles, and for some reason your "cookie" pakage is inspected.... I've been told that the pakage is held up wherever in the country it is (usually Memphis), and the shipper is told to come collect their pakage.... THAT would suck!

Please, please, please do it legally and get certified. Even though it is business to business only, as Daniel mentioned, home based businesses have become pretty common. As Daniel also mentioned, the more people ship illegally, the more chance that our rights to ship legally could be taken away. FedEx has done something that no other package shipping company allows at this time by permitting us to legally send snakes. Lets not do anything that might make them rethink it. Get the certification. It doesn't cost you a thing and it protects everyone involved. For those that asked, you need to have "live harmless reptile" labeled on the box as well as the latin and common names of the animal that you are shipping. I also put a sticker that says that I have been approved to ship live harmless reptiles and if there are any problems to contact me (with my cell #) or my fedex sales rep (with his name and phone #). Hope this helps!

J

Ive been shipping with fedex and ups overnight for the past 5 yrs or so without actually knowing you needed to be certified I haven't shipped all year this year because of not being certified now I am doing it the right way. My package gets picked up tomorrow and goes to the center in Memphis. It's free 2 day delivery and they ship my package back. Then once it's approved I have to sign the liability waiver from my area rep. Then I'm good to go. I had to set up an account with fed ex and they charged my credit card 10 bucks. At least I will be shipping legally now (now that I know the laws) I knew it was against the law to ship snakes trough the usps but they accepted lizards and amphibians correctly marked on the box. I never shipped lizards or frog through them but I got stuff from people through express mail or whatever it's called now.

David

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Originally Posted by tropheusfreak

Ive been shipping with fedex and ups overnight for the past 5 yrs or so without actually knowing you needed to be certified I haven't shipped all year this year because of not being certified now I am doing it the right way. My package gets picked up tomorrow and goes to the center in Memphis. It's free 2 day delivery and they ship my package back. Then once it's approved I have to sign the liability waiver from my area rep. Then I'm good to go. I had to set up an account with fed ex and they charged my credit card 10 bucks. At least I will be shipping legally now (now that I know the laws) I knew it was against the law to ship snakes trough the usps but they accepted lizards and amphibians correctly marked on the box. I never shipped lizards or frog through them but I got stuff from people through express mail or whatever it's called now.

David

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You actually won't get your package back. You ship it using their account # and they proceed to run it through the battery of tests. When done, you get a FedEx envelope back with the test results and hopefully an approval. You then call your rep and they send you the waiver to sign. Then you are all done! Glad to see you are doing it the right way! :cool:

Today she said they will send my package back free of charge when their done and I will get the results by email. There is a place to check on your application for all that stuff. They said I should be verified by Friday get the waiver faxed to me on friday and faxed back and I should be good to go by tuesday.

David

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Originally Posted by daniel1983

It is a FEDERAL violation to ship animals without labeling the shipping package. If you are caught, you will end up with a FELONY on your criminal record and most likely you will get jail time..a few years of it.

The standard shipping companys do not allow venomous shipments and as far as I know Delta Dash is the only company that allows it.

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delta is the only way i have shipped any reptile. trust me i do not need any felony. lol

edited to add: i have delt with alot of not so bright sellers who were more than willing to ship fed ex/ups on venomous and advertize it. and no i have not done buisness with them due to that fact.

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Originally Posted by tropheusfreak

Today she said they will send my package back free of charge when their done and I will get the results by email. There is a place to check on your application for all that stuff. They said I should be verified by Friday get the waiver faxed to me on friday and faxed back and I should be good to go by tuesday.

David

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Rock on! Good to see people doing it the right way...Let us know the outcome!

and another thing I was also told by the animal desk person, packaging person, and my area rep that the box doesn't need to be labeled with the contents, they all said I should at least use a red marker and write perishable and put arrows pointing up around the box. What has everyone else been told?

David

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Originally Posted by tropheusfreak

and another thing I was also told by the animal desk person, packaging person, and my area rep that the box doesn't need to be labeled with the contents, they all said I should at least use a red marker and write perishable and put arrows pointing up around the box. What has everyone else been told?

David

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It is a FEDERAL requirement to label the box with the common and latin name. It must appear somewhere on the box.

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Originally Posted by Wild Bill

It is a FEDERAL requirement to label the box with the common and latin name. It must appear somewhere on the box.

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and quantity of each species. ;)

-adam

Some people, they are supposed to be professionals why in the heck would they tell me not to mark the box with whats inside? Good thing I got some opinions here.

David

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

and quantity of each species. ;)

-adam

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:rockon:

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Originally Posted by jglass38

You actually won't get your package back. You ship it using their account # and they proceed to run it through the battery of tests. When done, you get a FedEx envelope back with the test results and hopefully an approval. You then call your rep and they send you the waiver to sign. Then you are all done! Glad to see you are doing it the right way! :cool:

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You can get your package back if you request it back....and they will ship it back on their account. Fedex is great for providing such a wonderful free service.....because you know they could charge if they wanted to ;)

Just writting "parishable" on it seems odd, I imagine the guy/gal in the truck going "Hmmm parishable?? Maybe its a cake..." and then getting the shock of his/her life when he opens it. :)

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Originally Posted by tropheusfreak

Some people, they are supposed to be professionals why in the heck would they tell me not to mark the box with whats inside? Good thing I got some opinions here.

David

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You are not getting opinions here.....you are getting the Facts :)

If someone that trys to sell reptile professionally can not take the extra time to become a certified shipper.....I would not really expect them to spend any extra time helping out a customer or taking care of their animals.....that is why I do not buy from someone that has not gone through the proper channels to ship an animal.

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Originally Posted by daniel1983

You can get your package back if you request it back....and they will ship it back on their account. Fedex is great for providing such a wonderful free service.....because you know they could charge if they wanted to ;)

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Who knew? I stand cooorrrrrected! (a little Shining reference)

In order to get your box back, you just have to send it in a bigger outer box... They'll tell you that too when you get ready to send in your test package... it actually says that the test package application... "Is test package in outer box?" and "Do you want your test package returned to you?"