Albino Ball Pythons...

I really love how the albinos look. Doing research, I found out that Albinos were one of the first morphs to be proven. In fact, it was almost 15 years ago. Why is this morph still so expensive? You's think there would be tons of them, making the price cheaper.

Are you intending on breeding them? If so you should be glad they hold their value so well.

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Originally Posted by Shaffer

I really love how the albinos look. Doing research, I found out that Albinos were one of the first morphs to be proven. In fact, it was almost 15 years ago. Why is this morph still so expensive? You's think there would be tons of them, making the price cheaper.

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If you have ever tried to raise up a female thats het for albino you will know exactly why the albino's are still pricey:P .Several people including myself have female het albinos that stop eating when they hit 900 grams :mad: .This also is a problem in majority of the het pied females.Since not many albinos are produced each season the price stays pretty much the same.

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Originally Posted by joepythons

If you have ever tried to raise up a female thats het for albino you will know exactly why the albino's are still pricey:P .Several people including myself have female het albinos that stop eating when they hit 900 grams :mad: .This also is a problem in majority of the het pied females.Since not many albinos are produced each season the price stays pretty much the same.

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wow i never knew that! that's crazy. just cuz it's a skin mutation, they decide they don't wanna eat? i guess there's more too it huh?

Also Nate Albino prices have come way down from where they were when they got popular.

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Originally Posted by nathanledet

Are you intending on breeding them? If so you should be glad they hold their value so well.

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Don't really want to breed them.. I just want one. But if I had an adult male, throughing him in with my adult female, probably wouldn't be a bad idea...

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Originally Posted by nathanledet

wow i never knew that! that's crazy. just cuz it's a skin mutation, they decide they don't wanna eat? i guess there's more too it huh?

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No its not something genetic.Its because they know we want to produce the Albinos really bad :mad: :P .

Over $1k is still a NICE price tag for ANY snake...

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

Over $1k is still a NICE price tag for ANY snake...

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You can say that again :cool: :rockon:

Brad, over 1k is a very pricey tag to put on a ball python.

I recently posted a mojave and a spider at 995.00 and caught some grief about it from another breeder wannabe. they both were extremely nice bps but I wanted to put a FAIR price on them. I guess greed still factors in, in some peoples decision to sell something. not mine!

The albino balls are selling in the 1200.00 - 1500.00 range and are worth that.your never gonna produce tons of a recessive gene ball python, thats what keeps them afloat. :salute:

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Originally Posted by joepythons

If you have ever tried to raise up a female thats het for albino you will know exactly why the albino's are still pricey:P .Several people including myself have female het albinos that stop eating when they hit 900 grams :mad: .This also is a problem in majority of the het pied females.Since not many albinos are produced each season the price stays pretty much the same.

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None of my adult het albino or het pied females had any kind of problems with eating ... they are all eating machines ... that is a bad stereo type that is floating around the internet ... a het pied or het albino is no more likely to shut down than a normal female at around 900 grams ... if you work with ball pythons in enough numbers, it's easy to see ... if you ever get the chance to take a trip to Pete Kahls place, he has a TON of huge het pied girls that eat like crazy!

-adam

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Originally Posted by Shaffer

I really love how the albinos look. Doing research, I found out that Albinos were one of the first morphs to be proven. In fact, it was almost 15 years ago. Why is this morph still so expensive? You's think there would be tons of them, making the price cheaper.

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1. They are not nearly expensive now as when they were first being captively produced.

2. Albinism is a recessive gene, you must have 2 snakes with the gene to produce albino babies.

3. (I would assume this could be a reason as well) Clutch size is smaller than that of larger snakes such as the Burmese python.

I hope their price doesn't come down too much by the time I am able to produce some babies...

albinos are cool! i hope i do better than last year with them.



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vaughn

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Originally Posted by Rapture

1. They are not nearly expensive now as when they were first being captively produced.

2. Albinism is a recessive gene, you must have 2 snakes with the gene to produce albino babies.

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Bingo

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

None of my adult het albino or het pied females had any kind of problems with eating ... they are all eating machines ... that is a bad stereo type that is floating around the internet ... a het pied or het albino is no more likely to shut down than a normal female at around 900 grams ... if you work with ball pythons in enough numbers, it's easy to see ... if you ever get the chance to take a trip to Pete Kahls place, he has a TON of huge het pied girls that eat like crazy!

-adam

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You must be one of the lucky ones then.I have two freinds that have had there hets become a headache after reaching the 900 gram area.They have multiple females that have done this over the years.They did eventually eat though:cool: .

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Originally Posted by joepythons

You must be one of the lucky ones then.

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Yeah ... that's me ... Mr. Luck ... LMAO ... I must also know a lot of lucky people as well! :P

-adam

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Originally Posted by ECLARK

Brad, over 1k is a very pricey tag to put on a ball python.

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Ed, I think you took it the wrong way...

I was saying that from a breeder's perspective (someone looking for a return on their investment) that animals keeping their value at over $1000 for 15+ years is a VERY sound investment. That's what I meant, FWIW....

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Originally Posted by ECLARK

I recently posted a mojave and a spider at 995.00 and caught some grief about it from another breeder wannabe.

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Yup... that's me.... I sure do WANNA BE a breeder someday!

Brad, I did not take your post the wrong way, I agree with you on that. all the recessives have held there prices very well.


Doms and co-doms are another story. and it seems to have everybody up in arms about it. :)

Oh, cool...I'm still confused though, what'd you mean by this then:

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Brad, over 1k is a very pricey tag to put on a ball python.

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any time you can sell a bp for more than 1 k is a good sale. :)

Wow. There's been a lot of breeders that made "good sales" this year then..