Good News and Bad News

Hey you guys, I don't know i you remmeber me posting up a thread a while ago about my snake not pooping for a long time. Well, my BB finally pooped today and it was a lot of poop. He also just sheeded and im excited about that becuase it's the first time he sheeded when i had him.

Hehe....sounds like all good news to me! :gj:

yes yes good news indeed.

Im sorry, i accidently enter the post. Well anyways, i was handling him for about 15 mins becuase of my excitment of him sheeding and when i put him back into the cage, he looked really defensive. I was a little weirded out about but i continued to collect the sheed to clean up my tank. When i was collecting the sheed he snaped but not towards me. So i did something stupid and fling my hands towards him and he snaped at me. I was like ok? So i threw a peice of my Aspen at him and he snaped at that too. I dont know what's causing his behavor.

I think what's causing is behavor is becuase of the shed. When i first got him his eyes were capped with his shed that he still had from the previous shed. So im assuming he didnt see very well. He was great he never snaped at me or moved around as much as he does now. He seemed really mellow when i first had him.

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Originally Posted by davwtram

So i threw a peice of my Aspen at him and he snaped at that too.

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Interesting approach.....:eek:

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Originally Posted by davwtram

I dont know what's causing his behavor.

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For the life of me, I can't figure that out either! :confused:

.... try throwing a piece of substrate at ME and see what happens! :):sabduel:

I am so scared of him now. He always looks really nervous and ready to attack. I dont know what it is. I handled him everyday from the day i got him.

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Originally Posted by davwtram

I am so scared of him now. He always looks really nervous and ready to attack. I dont know what it is. I handled him everyday from the day i got him.

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So you didn't give him a week to settle in (aka acclimate)? No wonder he's pissy!

How bout trying NOT throwing something at your snake when it strikes at you? And what's this "sheed" stuff you speak of ? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


Try leaving him alone i.e. don't touch or look or make any movements towards his cage for a week or so and then slowly start making your presence known.

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Originally Posted by davwtram

So i did something stupid and fling my hands towards him and he snaped at me. I was like ok? So i threw a peice of my Aspen at him and he snaped at that too.

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Giving him a week for acclimation would definitely help but flinging anything wouldn't.

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Originally Posted by davwtram

I am so scared of him now. He always looks really nervous and ready to attack. I dont know what it is. I handled him everyday from the day i got him.

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If, as you say, he had multiple stuck sheds on his eyes when you got him, he may have been effectively blind until he finally shed them all off. And in the case of a snake bought with retained shed that bad, I would also venture to guess he was not kept in a proper environment at all, and was likely too cold all the time and "oppressed" by more dominant snakes in the same tank.

So when you brought him home, he was extremely subdued and not at all "acting like himself..." But after a time in a more proper environment....he warms up....he realizes he has the whole territory to himself....he sheds his eyecaps and can see again....now he's feeling 100% healthier.

And he's likely scared to death of this strange new place he's found himself in...he can see things (big, giant looming predators that keep harrassing him) that he's not used to dealing with and it scares him terribly. And he's feeling healthy enough to put up some defensive maneuvers to try and scare that predator away and make it leave him alone.

You have to try and see things from your snake's point of view...which is extremely simple and basic. He needs to feel safe and secure in his own home. He won't feel that way if you are bothering him all the time....and it only gets worse of you "fight back" at his defenses by throwing things at him or thumping him on the head.

Make sure his environment is all set properly...with the right temperature gradient...a decent humidity level....fresh water...and plenty of small, snug hides for him to choose from. Filling his tank with some loosely crumpled newspaper will allow him to move about his new territory and still feel secure and "hidden" from all the scarey stuff out there. Then just leave him completely alone. Try to check/refill his water when he's tucked away in a hide...feed him once a week without taking him out of his enclosure....just leave him totally alone for a good two weeks or more.

Once you get to that point....both of you should be feeling a bit better about everything and you can work on very slowly getting him used to your presence and being handled.

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Originally Posted by JLC

If, as you say, he had multiple stuck sheds on his eyes when you got him, he may have been effectively blind until he finally shed them all off. And in the case of a snake bought with retained shed that bad, I would also venture to guess he was not kept in a proper environment at all, and was likely too cold all the time and "oppressed" by more dominant snakes in the same tank.

So when you brought him home, he was extremely subdued and not at all "acting like himself..." But after a time in a more proper environment....he warms up....he realizes he has the whole territory to himself....he sheds his eyecaps and can see again....now he's feeling 100% healthier.

And he's likely scared to death of this strange new place he's found himself in...he can see things (big, giant looming predators that keep harrassing him) that he's not used to dealing with and it scares him terribly. And he's feeling healthy enough to put up some defensive maneuvers to try and scare that predator away and make it leave him alone.

You have to try and see things from your snake's point of view...which is extremely simple and basic. He needs to feel safe and secure in his own home. He won't feel that way if you are bothering him all the time....and it only gets worse of you "fight back" at his defenses by throwing things at him or thumping him on the head.

Make sure his environment is all set properly...with the right temperature gradient...a decent humidity level....fresh water...and plenty of small, snug hides for him to choose from. Filling his tank with some loosely crumpled newspaper will allow him to move about his new territory and still feel secure and "hidden" from all the scarey stuff out there. Then just leave him completely alone. Try to check/refill his water when he's tucked away in a hide...feed him once a week without taking him out of his enclosure....just leave him totally alone for a good two weeks or more.

Once you get to that point....both of you should be feeling a bit better about everything and you can work on very slowly getting him used to your presence and being handled.

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:bow: :bow: :bow:

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Originally Posted by rabernet

:bow: :bow: :bow:

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Judy, has anyone told you lately that YOU ROCK!?!?

Thanks guys. Ok, fine i was harassing him a LITTLE but i was just testing if he was attacking at ME or anything thats approaches him. I was just making sure =\. Were doing better now, he didnt snap at me this time when i try to pick him up.

Keep coming at anything after a warning and sure it will make contact with you the 2nd time.

Try rubbing some vasaline in your eyes so there really cloudy and then stand in a small space with something a million times bigger then you, that you arent to sure will hurt you or not....of coarse you would be a little nervous.

Just give him/her time...I'm sure he will come around in no time.

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Originally Posted by TheAudOne

Keep coming at anything after a warning and sure it will make contact with you the 2nd time.

Try rubbing some vasaline in your eyes so there really cloudy and then stand in a small space with something a million times bigger then you, that you arent to sure will hurt you or not....of coarse you would be a little nervous.

Just give him/her time...I'm sure he will come around in no time.

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Hmmm, that could be sorta fun :D

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Originally Posted by Vomitore

Hmmm, that could be sorta fun :D

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You get the vasaline and I'll meet you at your place. :sunny:

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Originally Posted by TheAudOne

You get the vasaline and I'll meet you at your place. :sunny:

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Hmmm, hot chick coming over my place, but I will soon be blind. Pfft, this deal didn't turn out too good. :D

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Originally Posted by Vomitore

Hmmm, hot chick coming over my place, but I will soon be blind. Pfft, this deal didn't turn out too good. :D

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lol...I can always count on you to give me a good laugh. :rolleye2: