What animals together make a Black Pastel

Not sure what animals u need to breed to get a Black Pastel I would guess A black back with a pastel ? not sure someone please straighten it out for me thanks and its my first post lol:rockon:

None.....a black pastel/cinny is an individual co-dominant morph.

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Originally Posted by uservant

Not sure what animals u need to breed to get a Black Pastel I would guess A black back with a pastel ? not sure someone please straighten it out for me thanks and its my first post lol:rockon:

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The Black Pastel or Cinnamon is a co-dominant morph that arrived as a wild caught animal in a shipment to Greg Graziani in 1997 and was proven genetic in 2002. Hope this helps!

ah i see thanks for the info

So then the Cinnamon is the same as the black but then what together bred makes the cinnamon ? I know I know im a newb but just curious
thanks

The cinnamon and black pastels are different morphs.

*blink*

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Originally Posted by ECLARK

The cinnamon and black pastels are different morphs.

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Sort of :)

Was that a blink for fill in the blank____________.


Or a wink for how ya doin. :)

Jamie, I'll go along with the sort of.

But if you breed a super pastel to both the cinny and the black. the results would be different. :)

So what would be the results if you bred a pastel to a black pastel half and half?

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Originally Posted by uservant

So what would be the results if you bred a pastel to a black pastel half and half?

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25% Normals, 25% Pastels, 25% Black Pastels, 25% Pewters

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Originally Posted by uservant

So then the Cinnamon is the same as the black but then what together bred makes the cinnamon ? I know I know im a newb but just curious
thanks

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You have to understand that Cinnamons and Black Pastels are what is called a "Base Morph". They are not produced by combining anything.

Here are some good genetics pages. I would suggest reading as much as possible ;)

http://www.ballpythons.ca/genetics.html
http://www.newenglandreptile.com/genetics_intro.html
http://www.newenglandreptile.com/gen...recessive.html
http://www.newenglandreptile.com/gen...recessive.html
http://www.newenglandreptile.com/genetics_codom.html

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Jamie, I'll go along with the sort of.

But if you breed a super pastel to both the cinny and the black. the results would be different. :)

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I like being agreeable! :cool:

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Originally Posted by jglass38

I like being agreeable! :cool:

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You're not agreeable. You're just easy. :devilish:

K~

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Originally Posted by KLG

You're not agreeable. You're just easy. :devilish:

K~

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That I am! And proud of it! :D

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Originally Posted by ECLARK

But if you breed a super pastel to both the cinny and the black. the results would be different. :)

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oh oh oh ... I know this game ... if you breed a cinny and a black pastel, 1/4 of the babies will be ..... super duper cinnies! ;) :carrot:

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

oh oh oh ... I know this game ... if you breed a cinny and a black pastel, 1/4 of the babies will be ..... super duper cinnies! ;) :carrot:

-adam

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All aboard the train to off topicville! Wooo Woooooooo! :D

I've never seen a black Bp, can anyone post pics? :)

you mean melanistic??

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Originally Posted by Sapphire7

I've never seen a black Bp, can anyone post pics? :)

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Here is a cinny/black pastel:
http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/ma...cin_pastel.asp

Here is a Super Cinny/black pastel:
http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/ma...uper_cinny.asp

Oh god, I think my heads gonna explode.

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Originally Posted by ECLARK

Oh god, I think my heads gonna explode.

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LMAO ... Big Sexy says not to let any of it get on your sweet pink shirt! :P

(sorry Ed, couldn't resist)

-adam