Desert Ghost Ball pythons??

What do you cross to get a Desert Ghost?

I'm assuming a ghost and axanthic but am not sure, does anyone know the genetics of these guys??

http://www.newenglandreptile.com/gra...ll_gallery.jpg

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Originally Posted by arcina

What do you cross to get a Desert Ghost?

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Nothing, it's a mutation all by itself.

-adam

Well, of course it is its own mutation but I am asking how it becomes that mutation. What are the genetics of the mutation??? You don't just breed two reg ball pythons and get a desert ghost, you have to have two certain morph parents to produce desert ghost offspring.... or so I would assume.

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Originally Posted by arcina

Well, of course it is its own mutation but I am asking how it becomes that mutation. What are the genetics of the mutation??? You don't just breed two reg ball pythons and get a desert ghost, you have to have two certain morph parents to produce desert ghost offspring.... or so I would assume.

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From my understanding its genetics are still a mystery.

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Originally Posted by arcina

you have to have two certain morph parents to produce desert ghost offspring.

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Yeah ... DESERT GHOST ... it's not a combination.

-adam

Arcina... how do you think any of the morphs started? Someone didn't just breed to normals and produced them! I believe a majority of the morphs are from people proving out captive hatched babies. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Originally Posted by arcina

I'm assuming a ghost and axanthic

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Ghost and axanthic equals True Ghost.......and to my knowledge, one does not even exist yet ;)

This morph is not like a super Pastel or bumble bee or pinstripe spider or pastel pied or even lavendar albino pied where it takes two morphes to create them. They find these mutations in the wild and then through selective breeding and inbreeding and working with hets and poss hets they prove the line some ressicive genes take years. Dom and codom genes can be proved in one generation.

Hope this helped clear up the mess.

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

This morph is not like a super Pastel or bumble bee or pinstripe spider or lavender albino or pastel pied or even lavendar albino pied where it takes two morphes to create them.

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Lavander albinos are not a combo morph.

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Originally Posted by Kilo

Arcina... how do you think any of the morphs started? Someone didn't just breed to normals and produced them! I believe a majority of the morphs are from people proving out captive hatched babies. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Actually most are found in the wild then they breed them to normals and breed back the babies if they aren't Dom or Codom to see if it is recessive.

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Originally Posted by daniel1983

Lavander albinos are not a combo morph.

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OOOOPS :cool:

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Originally Posted by bpkid

Actually most are found in the wild then they breed them to normals and breed back the babies if they aren't Dom or Codom to see if it is recessive.

;)

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LoL, I was just referring to there origination... not the means to prove out codom, dom or recessive. :neener:

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Originally Posted by Kilo

LoL, I was just referring to there origination... not the means to prove out codom, dom or recessive. :neener:

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I know what you meant.

Most of them originated in the wild.

:P Sorry for the confusion.

Yes. Almost every single mutation is found in the wild.....Ive seen WC albinos .....Pieds.....spiders.....ETC.

Im actually breeding desert ghosts now and Mark and Kim bell were the ones who proved out the first desert ghost in 2003 and then produced their own line in 2006 . After that NERD ( New England Repile Distributors) created their own line.

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Originally Posted by daniel1983

Ghost and axanthic equals True Ghost.......and to my knowledge, one does not even exist yet ;)

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http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...xanthic-ghost/

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Originally Posted by MadAboutReptiles

Im actually breeding desert ghosts now and Mark and Kim bell were the ones who proved out the first desert ghost in 2003 and then produced their own line in 2006 . After that NERD ( New England Repile Distributors) created their own line.

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Originally Posted by DemmBalls

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...xanthic-ghost/

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You guys do realize that this thread is from 2006?

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Originally Posted by RobNJ

You guys do realize that this thread is from 2006?

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No or I would not have posted...Now i know! :gj:

To my knowledge the desert ghost is a single recessive gene. The only way to get one is to have two snakes hold the het for them or visual. The desert ghost is a mystery for sure. I have a snake in my collection that is suppose to be a desert ghost but when I look at it. it looks like a True ghost. This year I will start to prove it out, what ever it ends up being. my hopes is that I hit jack pot and it is in fact a desert ghost. I showed pics of it to a major breeder and he too is unsure what he could be. he knows it is not any line of the ghosts gene. His thoughts is that if it isn't a desert or true ghost, I have hit on a totally new morph. :)
only time will tell as the breeding season is about to start, and I have big plans for him.

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Originally Posted by chwkgirl

To my knowledge the desert ghost is a single recessive gene. The only way to get one is to have two snakes hold the het for them or visual. The desert ghost is a mystery for sure. I have a snake in my collection that is suppose to be a desert ghost but when I look at it. it looks like a True ghost. This year I will start to prove it out, what ever it ends up being. my hopes is that I hit jack pot and it is in fact a desert ghost. I showed pics of it to a major breeder and he too is unsure what he could be. he knows it is not any line of the ghosts gene. His thoughts is that if it isn't a desert or true ghost, I have hit on a totally new morph. :)
only time will tell as the breeding season is about to start, and I have big plans for him.

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9 years old thread :gj:

9 years old and i just got my first desert ghost girl!!!! i m crazy like a child in a candy shop. And yeah, desert ghost is still a top cleaning, brightening morph and one of the few morph that get better with age. Honestly there are not many morphs that i consider better than DG. Morphs that made or still make a lot of fans doesnt deserve 1/4 of the attention that the DG deserve. ( banana, GHI, scaleless) those are just over rated stuff.

In a collection, you can t have everything so you carefully step buy step buy your animals and after getting pastel, enchi, fire, lesser, leopard, OD and YB. you are gonna think about which recessive you gonna run for the next 10 years in all of your co dom and dom morphs: And at a reasonnable price there are few answers:

pied
clown
DG

Thats it. Honestly i m no pied lover so rest clown and DG, i bought DG first and clown for sure will follow next year. I guess it s question of taste. Of course i have cinnies, black pastel and of course lavender and candies are perfect match for them but when you don t have rooms or money then you have to make choices and for me it s DG, clown and sunset ( when i will be able to offered one). I m no saying i m not gonna jump on another opportunity via trades for a cool candy, monarch. white wash or puzzle. But first i m going to focus on the things made me love this hobby: healthy animals, clean patterns, vibrant colors, absence of noise. That s all DG can provide in a single morph.

So years this trade is old but not out dated.