Most Ridiculous Item of the Day

A teacher here took her class to an art museum and is now being fired.

Teacher Punished After Field Trip Complaints

Oh my God when will people grow up. They don't have a problem with shows like Nip/Tuck or the Real World. But take a kid to the art show and freak out. People need to get their heads streight. You can say some forms of nudity and sugestive content are ok and some aren't. Its black and white you either teach them the differance or you let them decide for themselves (children are incapable of making that kind of decision).

I think the big thing here is that it was a teacher that took them and not the parents. I have history books with painting with nudity in them. Didn't e effect me :rolleye2:

Add another group to the ignorent people group :mad: .I wonder if she would have taken them to a strip club or a tavern if she would have gotten in trouble :rolleyes: ? This is very sad:mad: .

Man, I can't tell you howmany times I went on school trips like this and nothing was ever said. So sad!

Thats true I mean its not like they have Husler blown up and hanging in the halls .

It looked like a classic painting. I mean I have seen paints in churches with Mary nursing Jesus. I mean I agree you have to draw the line somewhere but use common sence.

In the censored world we live in today this isn't really surprising. It's completely rediculus that it would come down to firing the teacher.

Well I just hope the teacher fights this tooth and nail. I would think having the signed consent forms would be enough of a legal leg to stand on.

I just do not understand the mentality behind this firing at all.

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Originally Posted by brainman1000

In the censored world we live in today this isn't really surprising. It's completely rediculus that it would come down to firing the teacher.

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No its not kids today get away with any thing prime example. Kid in a highschool here in Mississippi. Hit a male teacher it the face twice with a stapler the teacher hit back. The PARENTS of the kid sued the school for the attack and won (of all things) and the teacher got fired for "Fighting Back". Gone are the days of respect and disapline. Replaced with the time when lawers tells us how to raise our children and people fear for their kids in school. Taking a life is no long an unforgivable crime and is just how kids rebel or lash out. Your no longer known as "in need of a good ass whiping" your a troubled teen searching for direction and meaning. :taz:


Please things are in the words of Mearl Haggard "rolling down hill like a snow ball headed for hell"

The school district and the school are just trying to save face now. If they defend the teacher, they may face lawsuits from the parents. It is easier to just fire the teacher and get rid of the whole mess than it is to fight it, even though it may not be the right thing to do.

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Originally Posted by brainman1000

The school district and the school are just trying to save face now. If they defend the teacher, they may face lawsuits from the parents. It is easier to just fire the teacher and get rid of the whole mess than it is to fight it, even though it may not be the right thing to do.

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SPINELESS

thats what has happend due to America's favorite get rich scheme...Lawsuites
From car wrecks to burning yourself with hot coffee.

In the old days if you burned your self with the iron you didn't even thing or bringing a D.A manouver like that to the public eye. Now oh no..

" Hey I was trying to catch Lawn darts with my teeth and got 3.2 million. They should tell you those things are dangerous"

OK, as a former education provider, I can honestly say, thats just rediculous....

As a parent, I can also say this: here at the schools my kids attend (2 different districts) there is no such thing as a field trip form that gets signed for EVERY field trip, therefor, I as a parent, dont know half the time what field trips are being taken, to where or why..until my kid comes home and tells me he went on a field trip. At the beginning of this school year, the schools had local parents signing permission slips that are ineffect until the end of this school year, giving permission for staff of the school to take the kids to a field trip of the educators choosing..... to be honest, it has been a few years since I remember getting a permission slip that needed signing for EVERY trip my kids take... so in the parents defense, maybe they did not want thier kids to see nude paintings at all, maybe it was a case such as what my kids school does and the parents were not well enough informed of the educators choices for field trips.... schools are really lacking in sharing info with parents when it comes to things b/c of the blanket "permission forms".

Think of it this way.... we should really know what the educators are choosing to do as far as field trips where, when, etc... because just last year, my sons teacher thought a field trip to a local bingo hall was educational... NOT!

the only permission slip I recently had to sign for both of my kids, was for what thier schools calls "sex ed.", along with the form, came a pamphlet describing what the "sex ed." curriculum was to be taught and it also gave examples from the texts they teach "sex ed." from.... funny thing, it is not even "sex ed." as they call it, it is nothing more than a hygene class for the younger kids where they get samples of hygene products and how to use info, and for the older kids it was hygene, basics on abstinence from sex and safe sex, along with handing out condoms right after the class in fact..

In our school system we have to sign permission slips for every field trip. I like to know exactly what is going on and what the purpose of the trip is. Heck our preschoolers are walking to a park, and we have to sign permission slips since they have to leave the school grounds. Of course I wouldn't have any issue with children seeing classical art. Of course newer stuff would make me nervous, but how hard is it to call a museum to ask about it's exhibits or just stopping in and double checking if you aren't sure. It seems like everyone can't take responsibilty for simple things. It's just ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

No its not kids today get away with any thing prime example. Kid in a highschool here in Mississippi. Hit a male teacher it the face twice with a stapler the teacher hit back. The PARENTS of the kid sued the school for the attack and won (of all things) and the teacher got fired for "Fighting Back". Gone are the days of respect and disapline. Replaced with the time when lawers tells us how to raise our children and people fear for their kids in school. Taking a life is no long an unforgivable crime and is just how kids rebel or lash out. Your no longer known as "in need of a good ass whiping" your a troubled teen searching for direction and meaning. :taz:


Please things are in the words of Mearl Haggard "rolling down hill like a snow ball headed for hell"

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Hey your using my distant cousin for your example i want money NOW :cool: lol

As a parent who has had kids in MANY different districts in as many different states....some schools do the "blanket permission slip" at the beginning of the year, and some schools continue to have separate permission slips for individual field trips. But even when I signed the all-inclusive one at the beginning of the year, we were still made well aware in advance of any time the kids were to be taken somewhere and what the trip was going to include.


It's hard for me to fathom that a parent who is SO over-protective and controllish as to freak out about their kid seeing classical art would not also be well aware of exactly what the school plans to do with their children.

Just from the little information offered (and there's ALWAYS far more to the story than we see in some printed news article).....I would bet it's more a case of one or two parents having some sort of personal issues with the teacher and used this opportunity as an excuse to act "outraged" and "morally offended"...

The thing that bothers me most about this is that a school board will bow to the pressure of one or two parents and take drastic measures that affect whole classes...whole schools...and even whole districts....merely based on a couple of "put out" parents.

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Originally Posted by joepythons

Hey your using my distant cousin for your example i want money NOW :cool: lol

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See every one wants a peice of the Frog :carrot:

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Originally Posted by JLC

As a parent who has had kids in MANY different districts in as many different states....some schools do the "blanket permission slip" at the beginning of the year, and some schools continue to have separate permission slips for individual field trips. But even when I signed the all-inclusive one at the beginning of the year, we were still made well aware in advance of any time the kids were to be taken somewhere and what the trip was going to include.

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Around here, the kids have just a week notice for field trips(along with that sometimes comes a note from the teacher saying-"oh by the way we have this field trip and _________ needs $x.xx for this" and it is usually right after you get through a long weekend and have little cash till you get to a bank..just 3 days notice at times), the teachers and schools here tend to not have thier ducks in line and cant seem to plan for anything. I have actually called the school board and complained that I cannot get a list of field trips from the kids schools so I know whats going on ahead of time... sadly, the school boards answer to my problem is that field trips are left up to the teachers, yet at the schools, we are told that they have trouble keeping up with this stuff so they no longer go through monthly and get the teachers "field trip schedules" and print them in the monthly district newspaper because the teachers are currently unable to plan too far ahead due to weather and other forces of life.. they tell you to log onto the schools website (which is down 50% of the time when it really counts) and lookup the teachers email and email the teacher for thier "field trip schedule"..sadly, once you get to thier site and log on with the parent ID access info and password, half the teachers dont have email addresses (usually its the one you really need) available...you get them on the phone, you hear "it is too hard to mess with the computers" or "I am not computer literate" so I dont have an email.....mind you, my sons school is the worst by far.

Yes, so this begs the question..and these ppl are teaching my children and they cant run a stinking computer to check for email?....bologna! how do they type out thier stuff? Sounds more like laziness to me, or the fact they dont want the parent to contact them-for anything! When I was teaching, I made myself available by email to my parents, why, b/c I wanted the parents to be part of thier kids education and know whats going on, or have the ability to ask me a question...

Currently, with all the issues going on in my sons school district especially, they are under "fiscal watch", it is my understanding that they are making alot of cut backs, still looking for a superintendant, after the last one resigned after making the district pay through the district credit card for personal purchases such as alcohol, yes, I said alcohol..and lots and lots of it, something like $2000 or more.... and lots of other stuff that the district should not have been paying for... the total for his cc was rather high, around $7000 if I remember right, plus other main school employees were doing the same.... the state is supposedly expected to take over our school district by the end of this school year. Maybe then, it will get straightened out. But it is sad it has to come to that for a school district to get it together.

Enough of my ranting..... thanks for reading! :D

Geez, they are just old school nude paintings. Not like their teacher took 'em to a porn set to see 2 people go at it.

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Originally Posted by brainman1000

The school district and the school are just trying to save face now. If they defend the teacher, they may face lawsuits from the parents. It is easier to just fire the teacher and get rid of the whole mess than it is to fight it, even though it may not be the right thing to do.

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Ah, well see, that makes more sense to me. I just wasn't looking at it from a political standpoint, I guess. I hope they are thinking that the teacher will fight it and be reinstated by a court, washing the school board's hands of the responsibility.

If I had kids in a school district like that, I would loudly remove my kids and place in a district where educators have balls (the hairy ones, not the slithery ones, although additionally having slithery ones would be cool) enough to do what's right and tell closed minded retards to grow up.

But that's me...

I would definitely protest if it was in my district as well!

Okay, tony's computer is having spyware problems so i cant get the link to work- if they had permission slips, im sorry, you're out of luck. i couldnt tell if they did or not, however..


side note: i have to say this just because frog-man mentioned it~
McDonald's 'head haunchos' or whatever decided that since they were offering free refils of cofee, that in order to prevent themselves from loosing some money they would simply bump up the temperatures to make the cofee -boiling- hot. this would make the drink too hot for the person to drink and by the time it cooled they'd most likely be leaving the franchise anyways. so this woman gets a cup, it spills, and she gets some pretty sever burns, hospital worthy. the reason mcdonald's had to pay up so much to her was not because she necessarily deserved the money, but because mcdonalds is so large, you actually have to make it hurt. what if it had been a small child to run into the leg of an adult while pouring cofee and it spilt and put some sever burns on the child?

That's really appalling... I remember when they made fun on the Simpsons about parents wanting to boycott Michelangelo's David because of the nudity and not let any of their kids see it, even though it's... well, freakin' David! To see that kind of thing go on in real life? Sad... pathetic... and frankly, far more embarrassing than any oil painted nude could ever be. It's such a far cry from pornography it's not even funny.

I think it's sick that schools and parents both are so willing to sacrifice the arts and music. Art is important and hideously underappreciated. Nudity is a poor excuse for an excuse. Just another reason for kids to be ashamed of their bodies and deprived of culture and new ideas.

Urgh, I can't even get my thoughts expressed properly on this subject, it's a sore spot with me and I'm too disgusted. Funny on the Simpsons, :fork: irl. When it gets to the point where art museums are getting censored, that's it, I need to move to Europe or something...

That's freaking insane, the thing that worries me is that these kids will now grow up with an odd take on artistic nudity and nudity all together. It's more disturbing to children to hear adults talking about what's displayed in an art museum as wrong and indecent then it is for kids to actually see it. And even if it is something that these parents don't want these children to be exposed to and they get, read, and sign a permission slip then it's no ones fault but these parents. Some of the things that parents like this are doing are just setting these kids up for therapy later in life......