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  • 09-23-2006, 04:11 PM
    daaangconcepts
    Eye need help!!! (DU Warning)
    Ok. So about a year ago I bought my husband a ball python for his birthday. I went to the local pet shop, where they had a few adults crammed up in one tank. I looked at a few of them, and choose the one I liked. Which happened to be the only female in the tank. The shop employee told me she still had eye caps, and that they would come off durning her next shed, that if they didn't to bring her back, and she would take them off for me.

    We'll time went by, she stopped eating for me, shed, and kept her eye caps. I brought her back to the pet shop, where they tried to remove them (without success). At that time I also learned she was "gravid" and was going to lay eggs. They told me that they thought she was a captive bred, but remembered her being in with a bunch of WC males.

    Well anyways, here's my problem....I don't think her eye caps have EVER came off. And I think the pet shop actually F-d one of her eyes up! She just shed again last week so I took some pictures. If anyone (or ADAM;) ) could give me their opinion/help!


    PS. I took pics of her shedded skin also, to show that her caps DID come off durning this shed, but her eyes are still f-d up. Do you think she could have multiple eye caps??

    http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...Picture001.jpg

    http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...cture003-1.jpg

    http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...cture008-1.jpg

    http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...cture011-1.jpg

    http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...cture010-2.jpg
  • 09-23-2006, 04:13 PM
    Shaun J
    Re: Eye need help!!! (DU Warning)
    I wouldn't worry about it I guess. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.


    Nice pictures by the way! What kind of camera do you use?
  • 09-23-2006, 04:16 PM
    daaangconcepts
    Re: Eye need help!!! (DU Warning)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bpkid
    I wouldn't worry about it I guess. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.


    Nice pictures by the way! What kind of camera do you use?

    Thanks...It's a Sony CyberShot; H1.
  • 09-23-2006, 04:21 PM
    stangs13
    Re: Eye need help!!! (DU Warning)
    Depression in eye caps happens during sheding occationaly. I think when they tried to get the caps of they pressed down to firmly and they wrincled the scale. Correct me if im wrong. Soak her. And by her next shed she should have nice eyes again!:) (please someone correct me if im wrong)
  • 09-23-2006, 04:49 PM
    Ginevive
    Re: Eye need help!!! (DU Warning)
    Hm.. I do see intact eye-caps on her shed; however her eyes on your snake do look wrinkly a little. See, low humidity also can cause this look to their eyes; maybe the store mistook it as eyecaps, and tried taking off her actual good eyecaps when they were just wrinkled?? How is your humidity now? It may just be something you'll need to wait-out until her next shed. I would do a major humidity upping when you notice a pink belly/eyes going blue so she has a nice one-piece shed. Saran wrap over a screen lid does wonders; if you have a tank.
  • 09-23-2006, 05:02 PM
    daaangconcepts
    Re: Eye need help!!! (DU Warning)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ginevive
    Hm.. I do see intact eye-caps on her shed; however her eyes on your snake do look wrinkly a little. See, low humidity also can cause this look to their eyes; maybe the store mistook it as eyecaps, and tried taking off her actual good eyecaps when they were just wrinkled?? How is your humidity now? It may just be something you'll need to wait-out until her next shed. I would do a major humidity upping when you notice a pink belly/eyes going blue so she has a nice one-piece shed. Saran wrap over a screen lid does wonders; if you have a tank.

    She's in a r-maid! I jumped her humidity up to 70-75% as soon as I saw her pink belly. This pretty much has been an on-going problem with her. I've soaked her, put her in the tub many of times. Like I said before her caps came off during this shed, I just think she may have multiple caps!!:confused:
  • 09-23-2006, 05:37 PM
    TheAudOne
    Re: Eye need help!!! (DU Warning)
    I cant answer this question but I just wanted to stop by and tell you that that last shot is awesome. Perfect lighting and everything, good job!
  • 09-23-2006, 05:41 PM
    stangs13
    Re: Eye need help!!! (DU Warning)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by daaangconcepts
    She's in a r-maid! I jumped her humidity up to 70-75% as soon as I saw her pink belly. This pretty much has been an on-going problem with her. I've soaked her, put her in the tub many of times. Like I said before her caps came off during this shed, I just think she may have multiple caps!!:confused:


    Im pretty sure they dont have multible caps. Its probably from them messing around wioth her eyes. No worries!:D
  • 09-23-2006, 05:58 PM
    Evan Jamison
    Re: Eye need help!!! (DU Warning)
    Retained eyecaps would be stacked on top of her most recent ones. Since she had intact eyecaps on her latest shed, she does not have any retained ones. The wrinkled spectacles could be a sign that she is dehydrated, so be sure to keep fresh water available and keep the humidity in a good range, and she will be fine.

    -Evan
  • 09-23-2006, 06:35 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Eye need help!!! (DU Warning)
    If she is dehyrdated or the humidity is low for her shed then the eye scales will wrinkle. The eye caps are on the shed so their not retained so your good there. Try bumping the humidity up for a few days and see if that helps.
  • 09-23-2006, 06:55 PM
    daaangconcepts
    Re: Eye need help!!! (DU Warning)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
    If she is dehyrdated or the humidity is low for her shed then the eye scales will wrinkle. The eye caps are on the shed so their not retained so your good there. Try bumping the humidity up for a few days and see if that helps.

    Ok! So I shouldn't really worry! Just bump the humidity back up??
  • 09-23-2006, 07:04 PM
    Sapphire7
    Re: Eye need help!!! (DU Warning)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by daaangconcepts

    Yes she does seme to have eye caps stil on. Put her in large tub and put damp towels in there. Then put a heating pad on the bottom of the tank and the make sure the tub is warm enough to create humidity. The snake will naturally slither around in there and while she does this her eye caps will rub against things, and should come off. If that doest work, put her in a sink filled with warm water and let her soak for abotu an hour, when you take her out gently dry her off and let her face rub against the towel, and they should come off with that. If you have anymore problem follow advice other people have said, and still if nothing happens take her to the vet. The vet will be able to remove unwanted eye caps. The one in the pic there looks liek its about to come off:) Also someone mentioned that her humdity may be low. Yes that may be a reason, but the humidity. Also if you let her soak in warm water her eyes will be better (none dehydrated) But since her eyes look "blue" still even after a shed, she may still have eye caps... not sure, but just try a few things and Im sure she'll be fine. Good luck on the soon-be-eggs and babies!
  • 09-23-2006, 07:13 PM
    daaangconcepts
    Re: Eye need help!!! (DU Warning)
    No babies!! That was last year!! She's had them already!! This has been an ongoing problem since last year!!!

    But she just ate today so I'll try the towel idea in a few days!:)
  • 09-23-2006, 07:19 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Eye need help!!! (DU Warning)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sapphire7
    Yes she does seme to have eye caps stil on.

    I strongly disagree with this statement and agree with what Evan posted above ... if there were eyecaps they would have come off with the last shed ... when balls have retained eye caps and then shed, both layers will come off with the shed ... so if you see eye caps in the shed, there are none on the snake.

    The eyes look like your standard ball python "crinkly eye" ... usually, it's the result of a strong heat source that dries out just the basking spot ... the snake isn't necessarily dehydrated and the humidity is probably just fine ... some sources of heat just create a "harsher" environment than others.

    As long as she's eating well and continues to shed like that, she'll be fine.

    And as always, if you have specific concerns about your animals health, an examination by a vet experienced in treating reptiles is FAR BETTER than ANYONES advice over the internet. ;) :sweeet:

    Hope this helps.

    -adam
  • 09-23-2006, 07:25 PM
    daaangconcepts
    Re: Eye need help!!! (DU Warning)
    Thanks Adam!

    Ps. She's hasn't refused a meal since she laid her eggs!! :D
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