Paradigm Boa

Have any of you seen the Paradigm Boas from Mike at Basically Boas?

http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1165973,1165973

how awesome deffinatly the cutting edge.

Definitely they are the hottest thing to hit in the Boa world. T+ Albinos and Motley/Supers are going to take Boas to the next level. The Possible combos are amazing and we've just begun to scratch the surface with these two morphs and what they can do when combined with others.

Very interesting decade we have ahead of us! Gotta Love Boas...:bow:

So what exactly are they ? Albino hypos ?

They look awesome !

T+ albino x sharp albino. They are awesome. There is nothing Mike is not capable of. That man IS the BOAMAN of 2006. He also made some Guyana Sharp strain albinos this year. Absolutely amazing!

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Originally Posted by Brandon.O

So what exactly are they ? Albino hypos ?

They look awesome !

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Mike definitely has some incredible Boas and has done wonders each year!!

As Jim already mentioned, they are basically T+ Albinos and very rare. Lets say 99% of Albino Colombian Boas on the market are T- (PK & Sharp). Even though this breeding by Mike raises questions about the Sharp strain. About 1% (not sure if that's right) of the Albino BCI's in the world are considered T+ Albinos. It is I would say without a doubt one of the rarest Boas in the world. Only a few people on the planet own them.

Here are some T- (PK Albinos)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...s/IMG_3888.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...s/IMG_3927.jpg

Here is a T+ Albino
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...s/IMG_5386.jpg

T+ Albino with Hypo Pastel
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3..._5361Small.jpg

Damn That Tposs Of Yours Is Awesome. Hope More Hit The Ground This Year.

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Originally Posted by BALLISTIC BOAS

Damn That Tposs Of Yours Is Awesome. Hope More Hit The Ground This Year.

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I'll be sure and set a side a nice poss Het for those three girls of yours! Hopefully they prove out!

I just got done talking with Mike. They are WAY more than just T+ and sharp albinos combination. It's truly unbelievable what he has done. Read this to understand more...

http://www.paradigmboas.com/

I got to seeee him!

Those are simply amazing snakes!

I've seen quite a few pics out there of owners claiming their boas are T Positive, but don't quite fit the bill. Mike's Paradigm Boas hit the mark from all sides!

I don't know if he's be selling any, but does anyone know the price tag planned on these Paradigm Boas? I'd expect $12,000-$15,000 a pop for the Paradigms, but he would be crazy to release any at this time.

He didn't have a price listed on it at NARBC and I didn't ask, although we did chat a bit about boas. Awesome guy. =)

Mike is the coolest. I've been dealing with him for over a year now. Awesome guy. Those Paradigm's will probably be more than that Gerry...a lot more. They are Sharp strain, which hasn't been destroyed by all the under sellers out there yet. A sharp albino itself goes for around 4000 or more, depending on the quality, plus a T+ het is 4000-5000...which his aren't really a T+, The caramel boa he used produced that T+ looking boa the first time it was bred to a Sharp albino. Which means it should be a het, but wasn't. This has to mean it may be co-dom when paired with a sharp albino gene. Really confusing, huh?

You are probably looking at twice that combined price. I'm betting he'll get rid of a few, but only to long standing customers ( which I hope I fall into that pool :D ). They won't be on a available list at all.

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Originally Posted by jim020cricket

Mike is the coolest. I've been dealing with him for over a year now. Awesome guy. Those Paradigm's will probably be more than that Gerry...a lot more. They are Sharp strain, which hasn't been destroyed by all the under sellers out there yet. A sharp albino itself goes for around 4000 or more, depending on the quality, plus a T+ het is 4000-5000...which his aren't really a T+, The caramel boa he used produced that T+ looking boa the first time it was bred to a Sharp albino. Which means it should be a het, but wasn't. This has to mean it may be co-dom when paired with a sharp albino gene. Really confusing, huh?

You are probably looking at twice that combined price. I'm betting he'll get rid of a few, but only to long standing customers ( which I hope I fall into that pool :D ). They won't be on a available list at all.

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$20,000...you think?

VPI's T+ Albinos fetch $12,500 and Hets are $4000-$5000 or $10,000 a pair.

I'm not 100% up to date on Sharp strain Albinos, but I thought they we're in the $1500-$2500 price range.

There are far less Sharp Albinos than PK, and the Sharp Sunglows are still up in the $9000-$10,500 price range Vs the $2500-$3000 Sunglows from PK Albinos.

Mike just replied to an email I sent him asking about $$$ and a few other things. The price tag on the Paradigm Boas will be set at $12,500 for females and $17,500 for males.

He'll be holding back most of the litter as expected, but will be releasing a few.

I just got the same email. haha. We were both right, just about different sexes is all.

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Lets say 99% of Albino Colombian Boas on the market are T- (PK & Sharp).

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VPI and Mike both think that Sharp Albinos are a form of T+. Pk is a T- albino, but noone knows what sharp is yet.

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$1500-$2500

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I've seen a pair of het sharps go for 1500.

For some reason the Sharp strain Albinos really never took off with the masses like PK's. Not sure why, I actually like them better and it's clear now which is the better investment going forward. But, all these years it was like buying an Apple PC without Microsoft when almost all of the worlds PC's are Microsoft operated. All the Albinos, Hets, Sunglows, Snows all are from PK Albinos. Just recently in the past few years we've seen Sharp Sunglows and WOW! Unfortunately or Fortunately for them, only a select few work with Sharp Albinos compared to PK Albinos.

Brian Sharp himself sold off his Albinos during that period when PK's line exploded. PK Albinos are I would say 90% of the Albinos out in the market, Sharp has about 9% and T+ Albinos are 1%. Now this theory that Sharp strain Albinos are some form or to some extent T+ and not T-. Further breeding will prove this out. If it is in fact proven...we will definitely see a change in the next 5-8yrs, bye bye PK Albinos!

Whatever happens from this moment on, the Sharp Albinos just got a HUGE boost!! If they were $2000, they just went up to $3000!!

Great looking boa. There is interesting stuff going on with some of those boa morphs. I never really have been interested in redtails, but somehow I managed to end up 'adopting' one and he has been very interesting to keep ;)


MOD NOTE: The discussion turned from this boa morph to a discussion of 'the market' so I split it and moved the rest here, so if you want to talk about that kinda stuff feel free over there ;)

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...079#post420079