Shipping snakes UPS...

Okay so this Wednesday my new little snake will be shipped off and on his way to my house. This is the first snake I'll have shipped to me so I'm still a bit worried and not to sure how it's going to go.... The breeder said he will be shipping him UPS and that he will be here on Thursday by 10:30am because he will be set on "early AM drop off delivery". Has anyone had to wait all day long for their critter to get to them or has the drop off time been way off? I didn't even know UPS shipped live animals....

Yup, it's not even Wednesday/Thursday and I'm a mess!!!
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Originally Posted by lillyorchid

Okay so this Wednesday my new little snake will be shipped off and on his way to my house. This is the first snake I'll have shipped to me so I'm still a bit worried and not to sure how it's going to go.... The breeder said he will be shipping him UPS and that he will be here on Thursday by 10:30am because he will be set on "early AM drop off delivery". Has anyone had to wait all day long for their critter to get to them or has the drop off time been way off? I didn't even know UPS shipped live animals....

Yup, it's not even Wednesday/Thursday and I'm a mess!!!
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When i ship snakes i have them delivered by 10:30 am next day.All but one shipment in two years of shipping has had a problem.I am not sure how UPS has there delivery stuff,but with fedex the drivers are penilized if a delivery is late.In other words if it says by 10:30 am that driver had better get it their.Some of the older people who have been shipping for years used UPS before they changed there rules.So they are considered Grandfather claused into the allowing them to still ship thru UPS.Once you get the package tracking numbers you can go online and moniter the progress of the package.Keep us posted and we need to see pics of your new addition ;)

Thank you for your reply!

I'll be posting many pictures of the little dude!

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Originally Posted by joepythons

Some of the older people who have been shipping for years used UPS before they changed there rules.So they are considered Grandfather claused into the allowing them to still online ship thru UPS.

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Are you one of these "older" people? :D

I'm sure your little guy will be fine. Just make sure you keep track of him online. I don't want to worry you, but I had my blood shipped to VA beach by mistake, and that UPS building was closed. I had to bribe someone to stay late while I drove 3 1/2 hours to get there.

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Originally Posted by daaangconcepts

I'm sure your little guy will be fine. Just make sure you keep track of him online. I don't want to worry you, but I had my blood shipped to VA beach by mistake, and that UPS building was closed. I had to bribe someone to stay late while I drove 3 1/2 hours to get there.

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oooppsy...forgot to mention it was a Saturday delivery.

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Originally Posted by daaangconcepts

oooppsy...forgot to mention it was a Saturday delivery.

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I will only ship M-W, that way if something like that happens, the snake has no chance of spending the weekend in a box with a possible bad outcome.

jglass watch yo' mouth!!:eek: :eek: :eek: Just joking... but

I did buy it from a reputable breeder!!! VERY reputable!!!

We were having very hot weather, and that was actually the safest day...

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Originally Posted by daaangconcepts

jglass watch yo' mouth!!:eek: :eek: :eek: Just joking... but

I did buy it from a reputable breeder!!! VERY reputable!!!

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Ok ok...I am sure you did. Let me rephrase. I would never ship a snake on a day other than M-W. I would just wait it out for the right temps. Even with a Saturday delivery, you still risk the delivery being missed and the snake getting stuck in the box for an extra day.

Im sure your snakey willl be JUST FINE!!:D

I had my corns shipped and we had a little problem with Addresses....they sent them to a wrong 405 in my subdevison.There are 3 405s. the last house I checked ...they were at the door! But dont worrie it was a mistake by the lazy FedEx dude. Just verify your shipping Address with your breeder and im sure all will go well!! :gj: You are making me want my ball python from Adam ASAP!!:D

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Originally Posted by stangs13

Im sure your snakey willl be JUST FINE!!:D

I had my corns shipped and we had a little problem with Addresses....they sent them to a wrong 405 in my subdevison.There are 3 405s. the last house I checked ...they were at the door! But dont worrie it was a mistake by the lazy FedEx dude. Just verify your shipping Address with your breeder and im sure all will go well!! :gj: You are making me want my ball python from Adam ASAP!!:D

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You are getting a snake from Adam? Weird...

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Originally Posted by jglass38

You are getting a snake from Adam? Weird...

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Very.

-adam

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Originally Posted by jglass38

You are getting a snake from Adam? Weird...

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Yep i sure am!!;)


Whats so weird about it?!:P

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

Very.

-adam

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:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by stangs13

Yep i sure am!!;)


Whats so weird about it?!:P

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I didn't even know Adam sold snakes..But, I know he likes to talk on the phone. He used to be one of those, what are they called? Oh yeah, adult conversation specialists.

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Originally Posted by jglass38

I didn't even know Adam sold snakes

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You mean I can get money for them? Holy poop! :O


-adam

Yeah this guy will only ship out when the temps are good and only though m-w also.
I also have told this guy my address like 5 times and it is correct on my paypay account sooo hopefully I won't have a problem....
*crosses fingers*

Okay another dumb question....
I know the snake will be in a box that will be tightly packed. How in the world do they not suffocate???

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

You mean I can get money for them? Holy poop! :O


-adam

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lol...Adam said "holy poop!":)

Never seen a holy poop!!


Im pretty sure Adam sales snakes!! Ball Pythons to be exact. ;)

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Originally Posted by lillyorchid

Okay another dumb question....
I know the snake will be in a box that will be tightly packed. How in the world do they not suffocate???

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Is a frog's arse watertight? Well, maybe...But a box with a snake in it isn't. The snake is in a breathable cotton bag, and its nearly impossible to seal up a box enough to keep air from coming in. Also, snakes need a lot less oxygen than us humanoids..

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Originally Posted by stangs13

Never seen a holy poop!!

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You should visit the bathroom at the Vatican...

GOTCHA :)

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Originally Posted by jglass38

Is a frog's arse watertight? Well, maybe...But a box with a snake in it isn't. The snake is in a breathable cotton bag, and its nearly impossible to seal up a box enough to keep air from coming in. Also, snakes need a lot less oxygen than us humanoids..

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I don't think UPS knowingly ships animals. I think Fed Ex is the only carrier that does snakes? Am I right on this? And then you need to be certified to do so?

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Originally Posted by Rapture

I don't think UPS knowingly ships animals. I think Fed Ex is the only carrier that does snakes? Am I right on this? And then you need to be certified to do so?

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UPS policies on live animals (as Joe mentioned, they used to allow snakes and anyone who was certified to ship snakes to them was grandfathered in when the rules changed):

Shipping Live Animals
UPS provides service on a limited basis for packages containing some types of live animals. The term "animal" as used herein refers to anything living, except plants. While the list of "Accepted Live Animals" provided herein is an exhaustive list of animals that can be offered for transportation in accordance with the conditions listed, the list of "Prohibited Live Animals" is only a partial list of animals provided to clarify specific species that are not accepted for transportation and may not be shipped via UPS. Any animal not specifically listed on the "Accepted Live Animals" list is prohibited by UPS and will not be accepted for transportation.

Packages containing live animals must be prepared in accordance with the requirements as specifically stated herein. Packages containing live animals must provide for the basic humane care and safety of the animal during transportation. Any package containing a live animal shall be considered a perishable commodity and will be accepted for transportation solely at the shipper’s risk for any damage or loss arising from the perishable nature of the item. UPS shall not be liable for any special, incidental, or consequential damages.

In the event a package containing a prohibited item is found en route or in the UPS system, that package will be stopped at the location or UPS facility of the discovery. UPS reserves the right to dispose of the package. http://www.ups.com/img/1.gif

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Endangered or Threatened Species
In addition to the Prohibited Live Animals list provided here, any live animal that is an Endangered Species is prohibited by UPS and will not be accepted for transportation. Shippers must refer to the list posted on the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Web site, and the Endangered and Threatened Wildlife and Plants 50 CFR 17.11 and 17.12, December 1999 (pdf file). http://www.ups.com/img/1.gif

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Service Type
Live animals will only be accepted for transportation when shipped via UPS Next Day Air service, and such shipments will only be accepted Monday through Thursday. http://www.ups.com/img/1.gif

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Packaging
Design and Construction of the Primary Container: All live animals offered for transportation must be in a new box. Corrugated boxes must be constructed of a minimum of 275 # bursting strength corrugated or 44 edge crush test. It is recommended that any package containing animals requiring moisture during transportation be constructed of water-resistant material such as wax coated, wax impregnated, or plastic corrugated. Minimal ventilation holes should be provided as necessary.

Internal Packaging and Other Considerations: Internal packaging materials must be used based on the characteristics of the animal, taking into consideration the necessary humane care for the animal while in transportation. Lizards and geckos should be individually contained in bags constructed of breathable material, such as burlap. Insects should be contained in individual primary containers such as plastic jars with ventilation. Fish must be double bagged in strong plastic bags with a minimum thickness of 4 mils. Each primary bag should be approximately one third full of water with the remainder filled with oxygen.

Package Testing: Any packaging used or developed to transport animals should be submitted to an International Safe Transit Association (ISTA) certified package testing laboratory for pre-shipment testing in accordance with ISTA Procedure 3A before being offered for transportation.

Additional Considerations: Additional components such as food, moisture, and temperature controls should be added as necessary to provide a safe environment during transportation. Additional dunnage should be added to prevent movement of the primary containers or receptacles within the outer box. http://www.ups.com/img/1.gif

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Accepted / Prohibited Live Animals
Accepted Live Animals

This is a comprehensive list of live animals accepted for transportation. Shippers are prohibited from shipping any animal not listed here, and all other live animals will not be accepted for transportation. The following live animals are accepted for transportation unless poisonous, venomous, and/or a Threatened or Endangered Species.

• Amphibians (All): Examples: frogs, salamanders, toads
• Crustaceans (All): Examples: crabs, crawfish, lobsters, shrimp
• Fish (All)
• Insects (Limited to beneficial insects only): Examples: bees, butterflies, crickets, lady bugs
• Mollusks (All): Examples: clams, mussels, snails
• Reptiles (Limited to the following):
  - Lizards: Examples: chameleons, geckos, iguanas, monitors, flying dragons
  - Turtles: freshwater turtles (except: snapping turtles), land tortoises, sea turtles
• Worms (All)

Prohibited Live Animals

Live Animals that are prohibited from being shipped and are not accepted for transportation include, but are not limited to:

• Any poisonous, venomous or threatening animal
• Any Threatened or Endangered species
• Arachnids (All): Examples: mites, scorpions, spiders, ticks
• Birds (All)
• Crocodiles (All): Examples: alligators, caimans, gavials
• Mammals (All)
• Obnoxious Insects: Examples: flies, locusts, mosquitoes, roaches, termites, weevils
• Snakes (All): venomous and non-venomous

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Originally Posted by daaangconcepts

lol...Adam said "holy poop!":)

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You have no idea how hard I have to work to keep it clean on here ... My mouth is about as dirty as the floor of a highway rest area mens room .... ewwwwww.

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

You have no idea how hard I have to work to keep it clean on here ... My mouth is about as dirty as the floor of a highway rest area mens room .... ewwwwww.

-adam

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Yes, very ewwwwwww.....

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

You have no idea how hard I have to work to keep it clean on here ... My mouth is about as dirty as the floor of a highway rest area mens room .... ewwwwww.

-adam

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I thought soo.....LOL!:P

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Originally Posted by jglass38

Are you one of these "older" people? :D

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No i am with the higher class i ship FEDEX :P .:zerb: :zerb: :zerb:

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

You have no idea how hard I have to work to keep it clean on here ... My mouth is about as dirty as the floor of a highway rest area mens room .... ewwwwww.

-adam

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You probably got that way from knowing Jamie :P :P :P :rolleye2:

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Originally Posted by joepythons

You probably got that way from knowing Jamie :P :P :P :rolleye2:

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I wish I could take credit for that. Truth is, I was an altar boy before meeting Adam. Now look...

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Originally Posted by jglass38

I wish I could take credit for that. Truth is, I was an altar boy before meeting Adam. Now look...

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Yea right :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :snake2: