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  • 09-13-2006, 06:11 PM
    Rhapsody
    Oh Great
    My bp didn't want to eat his food today (his first meal here). I've got everything perfect (two identical dark small hides, a water dish big enough for him to soak in, temperatures are ideal, etc etc etc).

    I left the mouse in with him and a half an hour went by and he hadn't touched it. I even picked it up by the tail and dangled it in front of him for a bit, nothing.

    I noticed today (after I came home with the mouse) that his eyes went blue. Could be not be eating because he's about to shed? Or is he still getting used to his surroundings?

    How am i supposed to take care of the mouse? :confused:
  • 09-13-2006, 06:15 PM
    JLC
    Re: Oh Great
    It could very well be because he's getting ready to shed. OR he's still getting used to his new home...or a combination of both.


    One hint if you're going to buy live to feed....be prepared to keep a mouse or rat alive until your next feeding opportunity. I got a small critter-keeper and some basic rodent care stuff to put in it. (Water bottle, etc)

    For now...since you're stuck with a rodent and no means to house it, I would suggest taking it back to the store and seeing if they will take it back. Some stores will, some won't. Usually if they do, they'll give you store credit for your next rodent purchase.
  • 09-13-2006, 06:16 PM
    Rhapsody
    Re: Oh Great
    well, i've got it in a small critter keeper, but i dont have any food or anything for it. i'm guessing it wont drink from a tiny water dish?
  • 09-13-2006, 06:17 PM
    SarahMB
    Re: Oh Great
    I bet he'll eat after that shed.
    I don't know about where you bought your mouse, but my pet store allows me to return them for store credit if I need to. Of course, it helps that they are only a few blocks from me, I can easily run back the same evening.

    EDIT: Er, yeah...what Judy said! haha
  • 09-13-2006, 06:18 PM
    ddbjdealer
    Re: Oh Great
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rhapsody
    I left the mouse in with him and a half an hour went by and he hadn't touched it. I even picked it up by the tail and dangled it in front of him for a bit, nothing.

    Careful with the dangling thing... a nasty mouse dangled by its tail will bite, claw, thrash his way to try to get away....

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rhapsody
    I noticed today (after I came home with the mouse) that his eyes went blue. Could be not be eating because he's about to shed? Or is he still getting used to his surroundings?

    Could be a combined total of the two... Some snakes eat in shed... others don't. Just remember that your snake doesn't see very well with CLEAR eyes, let alone when there's a bunch of fluid inbetween their eyes and eyecaps...

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rhapsody
    How am i supposed to take care of the mouse? :confused:

    "Take CARE of it?" well... there's many different ways. :) I'll let some others chime in on that part. :)
  • 09-13-2006, 06:22 PM
    JLC
    Re: Oh Great
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rhapsody
    well, i've got it in a small critter keeper, but i dont have any food or anything for it. i'm guessing it wont drink from a tiny water dish?

    Just toss some stuff from your kitchen in there. Some dry cereal, a carrot...things like that. And yeah, I think it'd drink out of a small dish...just be ready to chane it frequently because it'll probably poo in it. :P

    EDIT: And throw a toilet-paper-tube in there for it to chew on and hide in.
  • 09-13-2006, 06:28 PM
    Nate
    Re: Oh Great
    When my snakes refused a live meal, i would put the mouse/rat in a pillow case and wack it against a wall and put it in the freezer and just do f/t next week...
  • 09-13-2006, 06:29 PM
    bchapman
    Re: Oh Great
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nathanledet
    When my snakes refused a live meal, i would put the mouse/rat in a pillow case and wack it against a wall and put it in the freezer and just do f/t next week...

    Unfortuntely that only works if you are sure the snake will take F/T the next week.. Julius however all but spits on any F/T food I offer her.
  • 09-13-2006, 06:31 PM
    Rhapsody
    Re: Oh Great
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ddbjdealer
    Careful with the dangling thing... a nasty mouse dangled by its tail will bite, claw, thrash his way to try to get away....

    yeah it was trying pretty hard. but luckily it wasn't talented enough to get to my fingers haha


    Quote:

    Could be a combined total of the two... Some snakes eat in shed... others don't. Just remember that your snake doesn't see very well with CLEAR eyes, let alone when there's a bunch of fluid inbetween their eyes and eyecaps...
    he was in a striking position, and i thought he was gonna go for it, but after another ten minutes or so of holding it i gave up. so much for smell/heat lol

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JLC
    Just toss some stuff from your kitchen in there. Some dry cereal, a carrot...things like that. And yeah, I think it'd drink out of a small dish...just be ready to chane it frequently because it'll probably poo in it. :P

    EDIT: And throw a toilet-paper-tube in there for it to chew on and hide in.

    if it's one thing this house has an abundance of, it's cereal haha thanks for the advice.

    I'm going to wait until he sheds and try again (should only be a couple days now, right?)
  • 09-13-2006, 07:37 PM
    wildlifewarrior
    Re: Oh Great
    I use carbon dioxide to humainly euthanize the little guys, I have a CO2 tank that i use to use when i played paintball, and now i have a hose hooked up so i can pump some into the box and the little guys just go to sleep. That or i will hit them against the corner of the cage, if you are good at it you can get it right behind the head and it dies instantly (Idealy) the CO2 is fool proof though, i feel like the whacking can be a little harsh. though i think most people have done it from time to time.


    wildlifewarrior
  • 09-13-2006, 07:47 PM
    Rhapsody
    Re: Oh Great
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wildlifewarrior
    I use carbon dioxide to humainly euthanize the little guys, I have a CO2 tank that i use to use when i played paintball, and now i have a hose hooked up so i can pump some into the box and the little guys just go to sleep. That or i will hit them against the corner of the cage, if you are good at it you can get it right behind the head and it dies instantly (Idealy) the CO2 is fool proof though, i feel like the whacking can be a little harsh. though i think most people have done it from time to time.


    wildlifewarrior

    i'd rather have the snake do the killing for me ;)
  • 09-13-2006, 08:14 PM
    wildlifewarrior
    Re: Oh Great
    Well i agree with that though i am not a fan of feeding live, dangers to snake and all. I am still trying to switch them up to frozen consistantly (they keep bouncing back and forth). It is amazing to see how an animal with no legs can take down an animal of decent size compared to the snake.


    SNAKES ARE AWSOME!!!!!

    wildlifewarrior
  • 09-13-2006, 10:22 PM
    Ginevive
    Re: Oh Great
    I would suggest just waiting till the shed is over; mine usually get fearful and almost paranoid when in blue. I would let your snake shed, wait 3 days or so, and try again; you can't be too over-eager! I swear, they withhold feeding until we stop huddling around watching and going "c'mon, EAT!"
    I put my rats down by whacking; I just use a rock from the garden, put it where I won't miss, and the deed is done in one fast motion with no rat suffering; I could never cause an animal to suffer needlessly. They die instantly; the problem is when people try smacking one against, say, their soft linoleum floor or carpeting; that isn't going to work. I have heard people using door frames too, but i stick with what works.
  • 09-13-2006, 10:41 PM
    recycling goddess
    Re: Oh Great
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rhapsody
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ddbjdealer
    Careful with the dangling thing... a nasty mouse dangled by its tail will bite, claw, thrash his way to try to get away....


    yeah it was trying pretty hard. but luckily it wasn't talented enough to get to my fingers haha


    we aren't actually concerned about it biting, clawing or thrashing your fingers... we were more concerned about your ball getting harmed. you should never dangle a live prey item. just leave it in the enclosure and allow it to be calm. :rat:
  • 09-14-2006, 12:05 AM
    Rhapsody
    Re: Oh Great
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ginevive
    I would suggest just waiting till the shed is over; mine usually get fearful and almost paranoid when in blue. I would let your snake shed, wait 3 days or so, and try again; you can't be too over-eager! I swear, they withhold feeding until we stop huddling around watching and going "c'mon, EAT!"
    I put my rats down by whacking; I just use a rock from the garden, put it where I won't miss, and the deed is done in one fast motion with no rat suffering; I could never cause an animal to suffer needlessly. They die instantly; the problem is when people try smacking one against, say, their soft linoleum floor or carpeting; that isn't going to work. I have heard people using door frames too, but i stick with what works.


    *shudders* i dont think i could do that

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by recycling goddess
    we aren't actually concerned about it biting, clawing or thrashing your fingers... we were more concerned about your ball getting harmed. you should never dangle a live prey item. just leave it in the enclosure and allow it to be calm. :rat:


    duh! that one flew over my head haha that's my blonde moment for the day lol i wont do it again (plus the mouse didnt touch sharky).

    what should humidity be while he's about to shed? the normal 50-60 or should it be around 60-70?
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