hi everyone!!

hi everyone iam chris I love ball pythons I currently have 3.3 normals 1.0het pied 1.0het albino and iam getting a adult female and spider male and pastel female.nolagirl33 is my mom so we are always fighting on whos turn it is on the pc. i live in louisiana and looknig for new friends to discuss thier opinions on ball pythons.:partyon:

Hey welcome to the site!



Sounds like you are well on your way to a good collection there!

thanks im workn on doing a perfessinal bisnuss one day i love taking care of my snakes and love all the cool morphs i cant wait intill they create the albino spider pied i think that would be awsome to see and stev russo spider pied was amazing so was NERD's albino spider then theres ralph davis Lav albino pied.

welcome aboard

Can anyone maybe help me?

:welcome: :welcome:

This forum rocks!!!!

First, WELCOME!!! :D


Whats up lil' missy?? I saw your question on another thread... I'll try & help!

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Can anyone maybe help me?

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what do you need help with?

I got to figure out what's going on with my old man's snake.....ok he's in prison and i'm just feeding her and taking care of her for the first time.....so i've hcanged her atmosphere a little.....fed her on monday...not a big enough rat, but i dont' know....all I know is she's been out all day and I don't know what the deal is but that's not usually her style....so does she need a bigger rat or is she just more comfortable....but I was putting my hand in front of the tank and she was VERY responsive to the movements that I made....WHAT SHOULD I DO????!!!

plus I have no idea how to work this forum......it's been a tough day and.....well i'm worried about Gypsi (BP)

Doesn't sound "bad".... GUYS HELP ME OUT HERE.... I would just feed again nxt. Sun/Mon and maybe bump the rat size up if she still seems hungry/alert...Is she agressive by nature? Remember that "they can eat as big around as their thickest part"... Or close to. If you give a discription of her home? these guys'll help!:D

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plus I have no idea how to work this forum......it's been a tough day and.....well i'm worried about Gypsi (BP)

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I fumbled around too... you'll get the hang! The BEST thing is to read the BP care sheet listed at the top of the "home" page..... or search for "feeding" :D;)

OK.....his mother had her on the main level of her house always 60 degress......Gypsi has a 55 gal tank.....well i just moved here and finally got a thermometer to detect temp and humidity....well it has been way too cold for her I think....so I moved her upstairs with me.....just moving her up there changed the temp to 75-85 degrees depending on the outside weather plus humidity of 45-55 jumping around...so I don't know....if she is just more comfortable? She's usually so docile I don't know what the deal is.......

my 2large males are the same way one thats eats rats once a week seems very active at night after i feed him the other one refuse to eat rats so i feed him 2-3 full grown mice (but he is a littel bit smaler) but i dont worry about it that much they normal smell thier new enviorment for awhile or they have to poop my opinion

oh by the way im whitesnake12 i forgot my mom was logged on

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OK.....his mother had her on the main level of her house always 60 degress......Gypsi has a 55 gal tank.....well i just moved here and finally got a thermometer to detect temp and humidity....well it has been way too cold for her I think....so I moved her upstairs with me.....just moving her up there changed the temp to 75-85 degrees depending on the outside weather plus humidity of 45-55 jumping around...so I don't know....if she is just more comfortable? She's usually so docile I don't know what the deal is.......

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If she was really kept in an environment that cold without any supplemental heat, then her sudden burst of activity could just be that she's finally feeling warmer and that gives them more energy for moving around and exploring their environment.

Try to bump the temperatures up a bit more. She really needs it to be ~92F on one side of the tank, and around 82F on the other. Typically, you don't want the temps to drop below 80.

Your humidity sounds fine for now.

Does she have anything to hide in?

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oh by the way im whitesnake12 i forgot my mom was logged on

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And a big welcome to both whitesnake and nolagirl! :handshake:

Because I fed her on Monday a small rat should I try to feed her again.....or see what she does....what if she stays out all through tomorrow too? I mean she never leaves her box.....except at night....but today....she's just there where she can be seen....wide awake too...

Ya sh'es got a box....never came out of it during the day....so I'm going to get her a lamp....is there any side that is better to put the lamp on?

I'm FREAKING OUT!

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I'm FREAKING OUT!

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Calm down and take a nice, deep breath. There's nothing wrong here that a little education and patience won't fix. The snake isn't "broken" and you haven't done anything wrong.

A small rat is plenty for her to eat. If she's a really BIG ball python, then when it's time to feed her again, you can try somthing a little bigger. But seriously...a single small rat offered every 7 days is just fine.

If you get a lamp to heat one end...just pick one. And make sure she has a similar hide on both the "warm" side of the tank and the "cool" side. That way she doesn't have to choose security over the proper temps.

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I'm FREAKING OUT!

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dont freak out the best thing to do is stay calm its going to be ok

Sorry....I'm just awful nervous about this stuff... i wasn't a snake lover until I met her....now I just don't know what I'm doing, not like I ever planned on being in charge of her or anything.....I need to get her out of her tank and clean it though....and I'm also scared if she might be hungry what she'll do....I've just never seen her respond to my moving my hand around like that before.....YOU KNOW????

when did you change her encloser?

dont worry to much she is just curisy to whats going on smelling her enviorment or she could still be hugrry

I changed I about 8 days ago
well not her enclosure it'self but the location of it in the house....because it's not air conditioned upstairs.....so it's always 20 degrees warmer up there .

so what if she's still hungry?
do I dare try to mess with her? No offense but i prefer not to be bitten? I'd rather feed her.

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Sorry....I'm just awful nervous about this stuff... i wasn't a snake lover until I met her....now I just don't know what I'm doing, not like I ever planned on being in charge of her or anything.....I need to get her out of her tank and clean it though....and I'm also scared if she might be hungry what she'll do....I've just never seen her respond to my moving my hand around like that before.....YOU KNOW????

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I can understand where you're coming from. Really, I can. Just realize that you don't have to suddenly know everything there is to know and fix everything perfectly all in one day. From what I've read so far, it seems like the snake has been in less-than-ideal conditions for quite some time now. You've already taken steps to make things better by moving it into a warmer room. That's a great thing!

Take your time and read through this:
http://www.ball-pythons.net/modules....warticle&id=52

And then sit down and make a list of what you think you need to do in order to take care of her. Then make a plan for getting those things done one step at a time. You and she will be fine!

For now...just allow her to be active and explore. She's probably enjoying being warm enough to move around. Cleaning can wait another day or two until you're feeling more confident about what to do.

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so what if she's still hungry?
do I dare try to mess with her? No offense but i prefer not to be bitten? I'd rather feed her.

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if you do feed her give her a rat pup or something smaler then what you feed her but only this one time then just give her 1 lg rat a week

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so what if she's still hungry?
do I dare try to mess with her? No offense but i prefer not to be bitten? I'd rather feed her.

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You say you fed her on Monday...as in yesterday? If so, then feeding her again so soon is not a good idea. Wait until next Monday. Also, if you just fed her yesterday, then the very best thing you can do for her is to leave her alone for another day or so...so she can fully digest her meal. Handling her within a day or two after feeding can cause her to regurge (throw up) her meal.

Do you have any pictures of your snake and her setup? It might help if you do.
Personally, I wouldn't feed her again so soon. I have one that likes to hang out on top of her hides a couple of days after feeding. I have no idea why she does it, but she always spends a couple of days a week like that.

do you have any other snakes then this one?

so are you saying that I should try to feed her a small rat pup or somthing before messing with her or maybe just see what she'll think about being handled at this point?

sorry i don't have picture of her setup...plus I wouldn't know how to show you guys anyways because this is my first time here.

NO just this one

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so are you saying that I should try to feed her a small rat pup or somthing before messing with her or maybe just see what she'll think about being handled at this point?

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yes but dont feed her right away give her somtime to settel down my to babys the night i feed them a full grwn mosue i feed them on sunday on thursday i feed them a hoper mouse and they do great so just relax

Actually no it wouldn't have been monday because it's been over 48 hours since I fed her and that's the only reason I'm worried about handling her at this point....because she seems too alert...not like she usually is...so I'm scared the rat wasn't big enough and she's still hungry due to the fact I only got a small one and I usually give her a medium every 2 weeks.....but that was when her cage was colder.....

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so are you saying that I should try to feed her a small rat pup or somthing before messing with her or maybe just see what she'll think about being handled at this point?

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dont pick her up give her about 48hrs then pick her up she wont bite unless feels thretn by you or if you smell like a rat

I need clerification on yes....to feed or to handle her....which one?

well if you want to you can feed her a med rat what type is she feeding on prekilled live ect.

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I need clerification on yes....to feed or to handle her....which one?

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If it's been more than 48 hours...and you're truly worried about getting the cage cleaned out...then I would recommend going for it. When you reach for her, try not to approach her from the front of her face, but from behind. Don't hesitate...just pick her up. More likely than not, she'll calm down right away and either ball up, or want to explore your hands.

Once you get over that hurdle of fear, I think you'll feel a LOT better about taking care of her. ;)

on my count you can feed her i own bps for 5yrs so you can trust me it sudent do anyn harm but just get her on a reguler feeding shcule on what you fed her before

LIVE and WHITE ONLY!

the bite dosent hurt that much i just got bit by my het pied lol it feels like a bad pinch that somtimes bleed

Usually it's not this wierd to handle her....i haven't had any fear of her at all....but her responsiveness to my hand is very quick and that isn't like her...but then again she hasn't had a normal setup and for the first time someone (ME) is trying to straighten out her comfort....I just don't want to upset her....and get to know what she is really like.....but it's wierd I don't think anyone really knows her....she has never had a steady atmosphere really so I don't think she's ever really been herself for anyone.

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calm down its going to be ok go head and feed her a small rat or take her out let her see and smell did any thing change in your house?

Ya, I'm worried about that too....because I am getting her setup changed I'm wondering if she ever really had the right feeding schedule....actually she shed for the second time since JULY just the other day....I kinda thought that was pretty recent....but I'm not sure what the deal was with that.....however she shed well....and that was after I bathed her and got the humidity up....

one of my large malse is always jumpy to my hand and when i pick him up he settels down and sits in my lap

ummm....like things have been the same....but it's my mother in-laws house...I just moved here....and moved Gypsi upstairs with me so that I can monitor her better....You know that's been the problem cause I haven't had the chance to get to know the snake yet...and everyone else did the best they could....but not good enough.....not researching and just figured feed her when she comes out and she'll live, but now I'm teaching them from my own research that she is a pet....needs special care....you know.....and not just stuffed in a cage and fed every now and then.