Anaconda thread.

I found this thread while searching google for information on anacondas. I found the guys description of how 'tame' the snakes are very interesting, and just thought it might be of some interest to people? Appologies if it's bin seen before.


http://forums.photobucket.com/showth...?t=3392&page=1


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They really look like they love their anaconda , I hope shelby(April) see's this she has a yellow anaconda. I don't like the cat pic's one of those animal's must of been very scared or stressed.

I have three annies actually.. and I've seen that thread before. Condas can indeed be quite docile, but I would not use the word 'tame'.

I know nothing about anacondas, but we as snake keepers must remember to respect these animals as being 'wild'. They tolerate captivity and handling; I think that owner may be making some bad decisions about handling practices.

They are not and can not be "domesticated", like a house cat or dog.

You more experienced people, am I on the right track here or am I off? =)

You're absolutely correct Cassandra.. unlike truly domesticated animals, most snakes are just a few (sometimes none) generations from the wild. They are unpredictable.

Taming out the window,but I do Think its a bit of an over statement to label them completely unpredictable.Take my burm for instance.Lovely snake,great with people.But I mean its pretty obvious when shes hissing like a deflating tire that shes not happy.Or my green female.(Another great snake,my only one in fact,that Id let around kids.)Take the other day,I was going to get her out,but as soon as I touched her...I knew it was her bad day,she recoiled from my touch,head shot around,and I got a love bite on my arm for her troubles...

My point is just that if people actually stopped to think what the animal might be going through during that time.Things wouldn’t happen...
Imo people should stop and get to know how their snakes.....:)

What about the pic of the BP sleeping with the RTB who's on top of the Conda?

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Originally Posted by Tefoe

Taming out the window,but I do Think its a bit of an over statement to label them completely unpredictable.Take my burm for instance.Lovely snake,great with people.But I mean its pretty obvious when shes hissing like a deflating tire that shes not happy.Or my green female.(Another great snake,my only one in fact,that Id let around kids.)Take the other day,I was going to get her out,but as soon as I touched her...I knew it was her bad day,she recoiled from my touch,head shot around,and I got a love bite on my arm for her troubles...

My point is just that if people actually stopped to think what the animal might be going through during that time.Things wouldn’t happen...
Imo people should stop and get to know how their snakes.....:)

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Yes, of course we can have a good idea of what they will do, but you do have to be aware that they have a mind of their own and their instincts are very strong.. if something sets them off, they will go off. Someone knowledgeable about snakes and their body language can stay safe.. I didn't mean they just go off and attack people for no reason. I just meant instinct always wins with a snake.. not like a truly domesticated animal.

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What about the pic of the BP sleeping with the RTB who's on top of the Conda?

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It's a two year old thread on some other forum. There's not much use in discussing what someone is doing wrong there. Nor should we bring threads from other forums into this one, just to pick on someone else's husbandry.

The discussion about whether 'condas can be tame or predictable is a good one. Let's keep it on topic. ;)

To be honest, I only posted this thread because I thought the pictures were good, regardless if his methods are correct or not

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It's a two year old thread on some other forum. There's not much use in discussing what someone is doing wrong there. Nor should we bring threads from other forums into this one, just to pick on someone else's husbandry.

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Appologies if this wasn't suitable for the forum. I just thought people might find it interesting.

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Originally Posted by famoussas

To be honest, I only posted this thread because I thought the pictures were good, regardless if his methods are correct or not


Appologies if this wasn't suitable for the forum. I just thought people might find it interesting.

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My words weren't directed at you. The link was fine to begin a discussion about 'condas as you did.

I wouldn't agree that you can tame a snake. They are wild and should be treated with such respect. Learn how to handle them and care for them properly and then you can happily be owned by one of these beautiful snakes.
For instance the two beautiful yellow's we recently adopted out were very mild mannered, even after being through what they had to endure at the hands of a very cruel individual before coming to us.
We would use the female for shows every now and then. She was always fine, untill the last show. She tagged Win twice before being able to bag her. He did not do anything diferently then he has done in the past with handling her. She just tagged him to tag him. It happens. The idea that it can and very well may happen when you keep these animals (any reptile for that matter), has to be understood and you should be ready for it.
Rusty

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Originally Posted by JLC

It's a two year old thread on some other forum. There's not much use in discussing what someone is doing wrong there. Nor should we bring threads from other forums into this one, just to pick on someone else's husbandry.

The discussion about whether 'condas can be tame or predictable is a good one. Let's keep it on topic. ;)

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If it wasn't at least noted and someone new saw it and thought it was ok because no one noted it as being wrong...how would that help at all? I was just noting it...Thanks though! :bolt:

I think Condas are pretty neat, I have seen a few that are more than handleable....but if they did decide to take a bite out of you...That's Gonna Hurt!!! My big RTB took a bite out of me once and she isn't even half the size of a decent sized Conda. That hurt! Any snake needs to be handled carefully...all it takes is one time and it seems to always happen to those who underestimate them and think they ARE actual puppies.

anacondas as well with all snakes arent tame. i dont own annies but mmy 10 ft burm "burtha" was probably the definetion of tame if you can even call it that. we would stack plates of f/t rats and she would eat them one by one. one day i was cleaning her enclosure and bam! she bit me right on the face. tame? i think not!:bolt:

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anacondas as well with all snakes arent tame. i dont own annies but mmy 10 ft burm "burtha" was probably the definetion of tame if you can even call it that. we would stack plates of f/t rats and she would eat them one by one. one day i was cleaning her enclosure and bam! she bit me right on the face. tame? i think not!:bolt:

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Um... Ouch?

10 ft. burm bite + my face = me crying like a little girl

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Um... Ouch?

10 ft. burm bite + my face = me crying like a little girl

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lol i didnt cry but there was alot of cursing lol

I think that the biggest problem, with any animal really, is when people become complacent, lax and too relaxed around/with them. Anything, even a housecat, can snap for apparently no reason and hurt you. This is something that anyone dealing aith any animal, whether it's "tame" or not, needs to keep in mind. Not to have to be apranoid, but to keep their guard up, to remain alert, etc. This is why I will not mess with any of our animals, snakes or horses or even the cat, if I have had a drop of alcohol; just not safe.
An accident can happen in a millisecond; attention needs to be kept!

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Originally Posted by Ginevive

I think that the biggest problem, with any animal really, is when people become complacent, lax and too relaxed around/with them. Anything, even a housecat, can snap for apparently no reason and hurt you. This is something that anyone dealing aith any animal, whether it's "tame" or not, needs to keep in mind. Not to have to be apranoid, but to keep their guard up, to remain alert, etc. This is why I will not mess with any of our animals, snakes or horses or even the cat, if I have had a drop of alcohol; just not safe.
An accident can happen in a millisecond; attention needs to be kept!

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The difference is I am capable and willing to fling a cat across the room if it attacks, I am not capable of flinging an adult anaconda across the room. I try to live by the no alcohol and animals rule, but it always seems like such a good idea to play with them.

You got it Ginevive. Always be prepared no matter how much you think you can trust the animal.. sometimes I forget this when I am at work, and then I get bit by the dogs! Even domesticated animals must be respected for being what they are.. animals! We can't read their minds.

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The difference is I am capable and willing to fling a cat across the room if it attacks, I am not capable of flinging an adult anaconda across the room.

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Not to pick on you, but I don't think flinging a cat across the room is a good idea either.

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Originally Posted by cassandra

Not to pick on you, but I don't think flinging a cat across the room is a good idea either.

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haha... I think it is a bad idea, I am just saying, that a cat would be easy enough to get off you, an anaconda would be next to impossible.