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  • 09-03-2006, 08:45 PM
    chibbi
    Is this normal?
    so, this being my first snake owned (RTB about 2 months old), i'm a little confused.

    I've fed her twice already, both times to mice. and a couple of days later found something in her cage. both times it was just one ¿digested? mouse. What i find weirdest is that its the 2nd mouse i fed her. I know this because this past time i fed her a white mouse first and then a black mouse. so...what happened to the first mouse? and why did this second mouse come out? and is it normal waste product, or was it regurgitated?

    i'm confused. hoping nothings wrong.

    any ideas?
  • 09-03-2006, 08:51 PM
    Shaun J
    Re: Is this normal?
    It's probably regurge. What are the temps and how do you measure them?
  • 09-03-2006, 09:17 PM
    chibbi
    Re: Is this normal?
    on the hot side, the temp is 88-98 degrees, and on the cool side its 85-90 degrees. humidity is 40-50% throughout.
    now i have two things that im' measing the temperature with. one is a digital thermometor thing that also measures the humidity and the other is like a thermometer strip. i just place them inside the cage on one side and on the other (not directly below the heat lamp, though).
  • 09-03-2006, 09:19 PM
    Shaun J
    Re: Is this normal?
    WOAH!

    Thats a HUGE fluctuation on the hot side. Just get a UTH with a dimmer/thermostat and your temps should stay on 88-89 depending on how high you keep it.
  • 09-03-2006, 09:24 PM
    chibbi
    Re: Is this normal?
    see, thats my problem: i dont know where to measure it or how. every place that i put it gives me a different reading, and also depending with what i read it with. the stip tells me its 95-98 but the digital one says its anywhere from 88 to 95...so i'm at a loss.

    i have the heat lamp on a timer, so its only on 12 hours of the day.
  • 09-03-2006, 09:28 PM
    Shaun J
    Re: Is this normal?
    Save the hassle and Get a UTH and dimmer. It would be much easier to measure temps because it would heat the whole half instead of a select spot in the tub/tank.

    Throw away the strip and keep the digital. They are much better.
  • 09-03-2006, 09:30 PM
    chibbi
    Re: Is this normal?
    UTH as in...under tank heater?
    i've already got one of those, but its not on a dimmer.
    are you suggesting getting rid of the heat lamp all together? and only using the under tank heater?
  • 09-03-2006, 09:32 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Is this normal?
    Has the snake been checked by a vet? Vomiting or failure to fully digest can be caused by internal parasites. Also, get those temps right as measured by a digital thermometer. 88-92 on the warm side (Boas don't need their temps so high) and 82-84 on the cool. Good luck!
  • 09-03-2006, 09:32 PM
    Shaun J
    Re: Is this normal?
    Yup... get a dimmer or a thermostat. (Thermostats are more reccommended.) Hook it to the UTH and the UTH should keep the temps to where you need them!
  • 09-03-2006, 09:36 PM
    chibbi
    Re: Is this normal?
    where can i find this thermostat?
    and no, she hasnt been taken to a vet. i'm was giving her some time to adjust to the new surrounding since she's only been here about 2 weeks.
    but i'll be doing that soon.
  • 09-03-2006, 09:37 PM
    Shaun J
    Re: Is this normal?
    www.mgreptiles.com

    Look at the Herpstats. They look awesome and I know they are very reccomended.
  • 09-03-2006, 09:39 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Is this normal?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chibbi
    where can i find this thermostat?
    and no, she hasnt been taken to a vet. i'm was giving her some time to adjust to the new surrounding since she's only been here about 2 weeks.
    but i'll be doing that soon.

    You can get herpstats at www.spyderrobotics.com. Dion is a great guy!
  • 09-03-2006, 09:40 PM
    Shaun J
    Re: Is this normal?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jglass38
    You can get herpstats at www.spyderrobotics.com. Dion is a great guy!

    I don't care where you get it, A herpstat is a Herpstat! ;) :P
  • 09-03-2006, 09:41 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Is this normal?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bpkid
    I don't care where you get it, A herpstat is a Herpstat! ;) :p

    Just giving the guy a place to pick it up!
  • 09-03-2006, 09:41 PM
    Shaun J
    Re: Is this normal?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jglass38
    Just giving the guy a place to pick it up!

    I was just joking... hence the :P

    :P
  • 09-03-2006, 09:43 PM
    chibbi
    Re: Is this normal?
    those do look amazing...
    but i need something a little cheaper then that.
    (and by a little i'm hoping under 100)
    :(
  • 09-03-2006, 09:44 PM
    Shaun J
    Re: Is this normal?
    Check the Rancos and Johnson controls!

    You can get them wired for 75 bucks, but you can wire them yourself for around 55.
  • 09-04-2006, 01:30 PM
    Brandon.O
    Re: Is this normal?
    Did you say you have only had the snake for two weeks and you have fed her twice, if so, maybe thats the problem, when you get a new snake you need to let them settle in, that means no handling and feeding isnt the best idea.
  • 09-04-2006, 01:46 PM
    chibbi
    Re: Is this normal?
    thanks everyone for all the advice. sorry for being such a novice here.
    :(
    so i'll take the heat lamp off and probably wait until next sunday before i try feeding her again.
    and not handle her until then.

    oh. another quick question. before i bought the snake, i was planning on getting a python and i read that you should always take the snake out of its cage and put it in another box to feed it, then return it to the cage when its fed.
    should i do that with a boa too or just feed it in the cage?

    thanks, and sorry, again. :)
  • 09-04-2006, 01:51 PM
    ssscales
    Re: Is this normal?
    What size mice were they compared to the snakes girth? Were they large mice, when they should've been hoppers? Has the snake been stressed out in anyway? Feed it in it's cage and avoid handling the snake until 48hrs after feeding.

    If it regurgitated don't handle it or feed it for 10 days. When you do feed again, make sure it is smaller than normal. If it normally takes a small mouse, give it a hopper, if it's on hoppers, give it a fuzzy.
  • 09-04-2006, 02:05 PM
    chibbi
    Re: Is this normal?
    the first time they were large pinkies, about the size of fuzzies and the second time they were hoppers. neither were larger then the snake's girth.
  • 09-04-2006, 03:36 PM
    Pork Chops N' Corn Bread
    Re: Is this normal?
    True Jamie!! I would keep the temps 80-85 cool and 90-92 warm. Thats what I keep my boas cages at and not a problem. Wish you luck and if it was a regurge, you will be able to smell it!!!
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