Thinking about going arboreal.

Just wanted some opinions from the reptile people I trust and respect.

The last several months I've been researching ETBs, ATBs, and GTPs...I can't really make up my mind on which I would rather work with. My main prerequisite was a great display snake...I know either can be quite "feisty" for lack of a better word, and caging requirements are roughly the same so I'm mainly looking for some pros/cons of each...or other suggestions.

If you've worked with any list your experiences/opinions...oh, and feel free to shoot me some recommended breeder websites. (I've searched KS, google, etc...and only have found 3 or 4)

Feel free to post pictures aswell.

-Jason

I don't have any experience, but the GTP is one I'd chose. I looooooove their colors and variety of shades from baby to adult. This is one of the snakes I'd be getting once I get enough experience.....AND room in my house! hee hee



:oops: OOOOpps! Clicked & voted the wroooooong way, Maynard. Sheesh:rolleyes:


Have U checked Brad's site??? He's the breeder of my RTB, Wrigley...Okay..yeah, I know the guy personally from a while back, but I like him & he did right by me w/my snake. www.bradsworldreptiles.com. He may have some in stock. I just hit his site, and his RTBs are a little less expensive now than when I bought Wrigley in Dec.

Maybe you'll like his..............

R.

From the three listed.....GTP would be my #1 choise since this would be your first 'higher' level snake.

....but if you are looking for a great display snake....IMHO...you could not go wrong with any morelia because they all generally make great display snakes.....However, I like semi-arboreal carpet pythons a little more than arboreal tree pythons because they seem to move around a little more to me and can handle alot more interactive (i.e. you can handle them a bit more). They are also a little easier to care for so that is less worry you will put yourself through.

So that would be the route that I would go with (and was the route that I went with). Check out some...Diamond carpets, jungle carpets, IJ carpets, centralian carpets or if you want something a bit larger go for a coastal carpet ;)

Thanks for your advice Daniel! Helpful as always!:gj:


I was "leaning" towards either GTPs, or IJ Carpets. But then with the GTP I thought, what locality!? Jayapura, Sorong, Biak, Papua New Guinea, Kofiau Isle, Aru, etc.:taz:

I'll look more into carpets, and now do a bit of locality research with GTPs as far as temperment, possible differences in husbandry, and size.

I've also seen carpet pythons recommended as your "step up" to green tree pythons. I'd go with either the green tree or the ATB myself. Both are pretty fantastic snakes, although I prefer GTP's over ATB's myself.

Are you bent on a boid of some sort? There are some great semi-arboreal colubrids that make excellent display snakes & will allow you to flex your herp husbandry muscle a bit. :)

K~

SPILOTES!!! Tiger rat snakes are great from what I've seen. They get 7-9' on average and have the body of a ball python girth wise. Look into them

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Are you bent on a boid of some sort? There are some great semi-arboreal colubrids that make excellent display snakes & will allow you to flex your herp husbandry muscle a bit. :)

K~

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Never been a fan of colubrids really...however I'd like to see some of your suggestions.

Now I'm back to where I started, ATB, ETB, IJ carpets, Coastals, Jungles, or Green Tree Pythons. I'm not in a huge rush to make a decision because it will be a while before I can get them. The only reason I'd shy away from ATB/ETB is because I've always read that its recommended you have experience with other types of snakes (such as carpets/GTP) before you keep them.

The more I look the more confused that I get.:cool:

Carpet Pythons are very arboreal! They look great and come in a variety of sizes.

Yep they are, they do indeed.

Get a green mamba.LOL Im just joking,i'd get a green tree python because they are gorgeous,and they only get aroung 3ft.

Here is one of the best sites out there on GTPs IMHO. Check out their cage plans too....great stuff:
http://www.finegtps.com/

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Get a green mamba.LOL Im just joking,i'd get a green tree python because they are gorgeous,and they only get aroung 3ft.

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You need to check your facts on that length ;) GTPs can hit 6'...

I would check out the Biak locality GTPs, they are supposed to me more docile, thus making it kind of easier to clean cages and whatnot without a fuss.

Or you can get a snake from the dollar store and hang it on a branch. I've heard they are VERY hardy :P

That snake book i was reading lied.it said the average adult length was around 3 or 4ft.

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I would check out the Biak locality GTPs, they are supposed to me more docile, thus making it kind of easier to clean cages and whatnot without a fuss.

Or you can get a snake from the dollar store and hang it on a branch. I've heard they are VERY hardy :P

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Actually I've heard several places that Biaks tend to be more feisty... I don't have a problem with a fussy/grumpy snake at all, and Biaks are gorgeous!

Thanks for the link Daniel...I've checked out the site a while back, but hadn't been there for a while.:partyon: I've also been checking out The Urban Python because of you...they have some amazing carpets. /drool.

-Jason

I voted for the Green Tree Python of course.............
I absolutely adore Biak Green Tree Pythons!!! :bow: :snake2: :rockon:

There is a lone male at my breeders place that is to die for, hyper green back with a blue dorsal stripe. The best part is that his belly is neon yellow,
oh man!!

One day I will purchase him. If things go this way for a couple months....

Last year he was $650.00
This year he was $550.00
Last week he was $400.00 WOW this is getting better and better!

The only reason why he is not selling is everyone is afraid to handle him, they are afraid of those Chondro Fangs going through their hand. LOL, I handle him all the time, every time I go the the breeders. I don't doubt he will take a shot at me one day, but I don't care it would be worth it.

Soon I will set up the Arboreal setup in the living room and strap in cause we are going to have a great ride!!!

Here is a picture of him.................LOOK INTO MY EYE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...ureBiakGTP.jpg

Tybalt, you should definitely pick him up...for that price...and, he's killer!:O

I want one like this: BTW mods, is it okay to post a picture if the photographer/breeder is given credit...or do we just have to link? I'll post both link and pic(which is downloaded to my gallery), delete whichever to abide by TOS. Signal Herpetoculture.
http://www.signalherp.com/sorong.htm- Jayapura 4th picture down on the page.:partyon:

Same Snake:
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../02110fweb.jpg

I love the GTPs with blues especially when it's patterned and all over the snake.

I'm on a big rhino ratsnake (Rhyncophis boulengeri) kick at the moment...these unusual colubrids are a lot of fun & can make fascinating display snakes. They're a bit tweaky about husbandry requirements - i.e. not a lot of room for error when it comes to making sure your temps are spot on, but if you have that dialed in correctly, rhino rats can be a blast to keep. :)

K~

Man, those GTPs take my breath away every time I see a pic of one. (it'd not the house's fault; it's us, with cages/tanks everywhere.) Once we own a home with more space, i definately want one. You know what I voted!